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On June 13 2012 12:50 thealexw87 wrote:
I'm sorry but it's your job! Your path that you chose! Yeah gosh six hours of sleep and oh no, 12 hour days of playing then waiting and then playing sounds so terrible. I know plenty of players out there who would die to be in your shoes, who are working just as hard. And if you really felt that overwhelmed, hey, back out of a tournament; as in, withdraw! And gosh, I think one weekend a month where you have a crazy three days of playing isn't so bad. This goes for Idra, Sheth and all those other pros complaning about dual tourneys.
IdrA has said in the past that his sponsors decide what tournaments he goes to mostly, not him.
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On June 13 2012 12:50 thealexw87 wrote:
I'm sorry but it's your job! Your path that you chose! Yeah gosh six hours of sleep and oh no, 12 hour days of playing then waiting and then playing sounds so terrible. I know plenty of players out there who would die to be in your shoes, who are working just as hard. And if you really felt that overwhelmed, hey, back out of a tournament; as in, withdraw! And gosh, I think one weekend a month where you have a crazy three days of playing isn't so bad. This goes for Idra, Sheth and all those other pros complaning about dual tourneys.
Just because you chose a job doesn't mean you lose the right to complain when a situation is handled poorly. Especially if it prevents you from doing the job to the best of your ability, in fact that's exactly when -any- worker should complain.
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This was the main reason Tyler didn't participate in both tourneys, he wanted to focus all of his attention towards the WCS and said playing in both would not allow him to do so.
Something needs to be done. For events this large why not just start on Thursday night, 1 extra day would cost less then booking a venue for a separate date, and would allow for ample time to get everything done
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IIRC, every Euro WCS didn't have a combined event, so all the pros in their respective countries were given a fair chance to win a decent sum of money as they focused solely on WCS. So now, just because it is convenient for Blizzard, they punish the higher caliber American pros in order to save a couple bucks with a combined event? How is this even considered fair?
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On June 13 2012 12:51 IdrA wrote:how can you not show up and then be pissy about it?
I'm pissy because I specifically asked an admin what time I should show up for LR8 and I was told 11 am.
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On June 13 2012 12:56 walklightwhat wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2012 12:50 thealexw87 wrote:
I'm sorry but it's your job! Your path that you chose! Yeah gosh six hours of sleep and oh no, 12 hour days of playing then waiting and then playing sounds so terrible. I know plenty of players out there who would die to be in your shoes, who are working just as hard. And if you really felt that overwhelmed, hey, back out of a tournament; as in, withdraw! And gosh, I think one weekend a month where you have a crazy three days of playing isn't so bad. This goes for Idra, Sheth and all those other pros complaning about dual tourneys. Just because you chose a job doesn't mean you lose the right to complain when a situation is handled poorly. Especially if it prevents you from doing the job to the best of your ability, in fact that's exactly when -any- worker should complain.
Idra made the choice to play in two tournaments in one weekend, he has no right to complain about his performance issues. What did he honestly expect? he went into MLG already knowing that he was in the open bracket which is in itself a brutal run and still participated in WCS and he's surprised that he had to play such long hours. I have a solution. DONT PLAY IN TWO TOURNAMENTS AT ONE TIME. Simple as that. It's not like MLG or blizzard are forcing him to play in both at the same time.
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On June 13 2012 13:04 RaNgeD wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2012 12:51 IdrA wrote:On June 13 2012 12:38 RaNgeD wrote:
congrats on your free win to 4th place how can you not show up and then be pissy about it? I'm pissy because I specifically asked an admin what time I should show up for LR8 and I was told 11 am.
You listened to an admin at WCS/MLG about a schedule.... sounds like your own mistake o_O
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On June 13 2012 13:04 RaNgeD wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2012 12:51 IdrA wrote:On June 13 2012 12:38 RaNgeD wrote:
congrats on your free win to 4th place how can you not show up and then be pissy about it? I'm pissy because I specifically asked an admin what time I should show up for LR8 and I was told 11 am.
schedule we were emailed said it begins 10 am saturday
bitch at mlg. dont make angsty little posts in reply to my article.
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On June 13 2012 13:07 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2012 12:56 walklightwhat wrote:On June 13 2012 12:50 thealexw87 wrote:
I'm sorry but it's your job! Your path that you chose! Yeah gosh six hours of sleep and oh no, 12 hour days of playing then waiting and then playing sounds so terrible. I know plenty of players out there who would die to be in your shoes, who are working just as hard. And if you really felt that overwhelmed, hey, back out of a tournament; as in, withdraw! And gosh, I think one weekend a month where you have a crazy three days of playing isn't so bad. This goes for Idra, Sheth and all those other pros complaning about dual tourneys. Just because you chose a job doesn't mean you lose the right to complain when a situation is handled poorly. Especially if it prevents you from doing the job to the best of your ability, in fact that's exactly when -any- worker should complain. Idra made the choice to play in two tournaments in one weekend, he has no right to complain about his performance issues. What did he honestly expect? he went into MLG already knowing that he was in the open bracket which is in itself a brutal run and still participated in WCS and he's surprised that he had to play such long hours. I have a solution. DONT PLAY IN TWO TOURNAMENTS AT ONE TIME. Simple as that. It's not like MLG or blizzard are forcing him to play in both at the same time.
The problem here is that everyone else has gotten a chance to play their own WCS without this issue. And now suddenly Americans are punished simply because it is convenient for the organizers. So they are faced with a very difficult decision. Do they give up on MLG, where placing and playing in their tournaments play a major role in seeding? Do they give up on WCS, because they would prefer to get that seed in MLG? Or do they try their hand at both and suffer through because both are equally important to their careers?
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On June 13 2012 13:07 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2012 12:56 walklightwhat wrote:On June 13 2012 12:50 thealexw87 wrote:
I'm sorry but it's your job! Your path that you chose! Yeah gosh six hours of sleep and oh no, 12 hour days of playing then waiting and then playing sounds so terrible. I know plenty of players out there who would die to be in your shoes, who are working just as hard. And if you really felt that overwhelmed, hey, back out of a tournament; as in, withdraw! And gosh, I think one weekend a month where you have a crazy three days of playing isn't so bad. This goes for Idra, Sheth and all those other pros complaning about dual tourneys. Just because you chose a job doesn't mean you lose the right to complain when a situation is handled poorly. Especially if it prevents you from doing the job to the best of your ability, in fact that's exactly when -any- worker should complain. Idra made the choice to play in two tournaments in one weekend, he has no right to complain about his performance issues. What did he honestly expect? he went into MLG already knowing that he was in the open bracket which is in itself a brutal run and still participated in WCS and he's surprised that he had to play such long hours. I have a solution. DONT PLAY IN TWO TOURNAMENTS AT ONE TIME. Simple as that. It's not like MLG or blizzard are forcing him to play in both at the same time.
Yea, but his sponsors are...well I don't want to say forcing because of the negative connotation it gives to the sponsors...making him play both.
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On June 13 2012 13:07 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2012 12:56 walklightwhat wrote:On June 13 2012 12:50 thealexw87 wrote:
I'm sorry but it's your job! Your path that you chose! Yeah gosh six hours of sleep and oh no, 12 hour days of playing then waiting and then playing sounds so terrible. I know plenty of players out there who would die to be in your shoes, who are working just as hard. And if you really felt that overwhelmed, hey, back out of a tournament; as in, withdraw! And gosh, I think one weekend a month where you have a crazy three days of playing isn't so bad. This goes for Idra, Sheth and all those other pros complaning about dual tourneys. Just because you chose a job doesn't mean you lose the right to complain when a situation is handled poorly. Especially if it prevents you from doing the job to the best of your ability, in fact that's exactly when -any- worker should complain. Idra made the choice to play in two tournaments in one weekend, he has no right to complain about his performance issues. What did he honestly expect? he went into MLG already knowing that he was in the open bracket which is in itself a brutal run and still participated in WCS and he's surprised that he had to play such long hours. I have a solution. DONT PLAY IN TWO TOURNAMENTS AT ONE TIME. Simple as that. It's not like MLG or blizzard are forcing him to play in both at the same time.
On June 13 2012 12:55 Whole wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2012 12:50 thealexw87 wrote:
I'm sorry but it's your job! Your path that you chose! Yeah gosh six hours of sleep and oh no, 12 hour days of playing then waiting and then playing sounds so terrible. I know plenty of players out there who would die to be in your shoes, who are working just as hard. And if you really felt that overwhelmed, hey, back out of a tournament; as in, withdraw! And gosh, I think one weekend a month where you have a crazy three days of playing isn't so bad. This goes for Idra, Sheth and all those other pros complaning about dual tourneys. IdrA has said in the past that his sponsors decide what tournaments he goes to mostly, not him.
Wham bam.
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On June 13 2012 13:07 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2012 12:56 walklightwhat wrote:On June 13 2012 12:50 thealexw87 wrote:
I'm sorry but it's your job! Your path that you chose! Yeah gosh six hours of sleep and oh no, 12 hour days of playing then waiting and then playing sounds so terrible. I know plenty of players out there who would die to be in your shoes, who are working just as hard. And if you really felt that overwhelmed, hey, back out of a tournament; as in, withdraw! And gosh, I think one weekend a month where you have a crazy three days of playing isn't so bad. This goes for Idra, Sheth and all those other pros complaning about dual tourneys. Just because you chose a job doesn't mean you lose the right to complain when a situation is handled poorly. Especially if it prevents you from doing the job to the best of your ability, in fact that's exactly when -any- worker should complain. Idra made the choice to play in two tournaments in one weekend, he has no right to complain about his performance issues. What did he honestly expect? he went into MLG already knowing that he was in the open bracket which is in itself a brutal run and still participated in WCS and he's surprised that he had to play such long hours. I have a solution. DONT PLAY IN TWO TOURNAMENTS AT ONE TIME. Simple as that. It's not like MLG or blizzard are forcing him to play in both at the same time.
This isn't just one person being affected. So now every NA player who wants to play in WCS should be expected not to participate in the biggest NA league? That's absurd, and no other country is has this burden put on it's players as far as I know. The Swedish qualifier isn't being held at Dreamhack this weekend etc. The players for other countries aren't forced to make a decision between playing in a major tournament or playing their national championship.
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On June 13 2012 12:26 NoGasfOu wrote:
Looks like EG is starting to require players not producing results to write and publish something for publicity. I remember QXC did this a lot.
Reading that just make it so obvious that you came into the thread purely to take a jab at IdrA, regardless of what the thread was about. TL needs more quality posters like you, champ. How funny that you joined in April and have 3 posts per day. What did your first account get banned for?
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I always imagined MLG tournaments were the hardest to win (harder than GSL) not because of the quality of the player pool, but because the scheduling of the open tournament seemed ridiculous. Not to mention they added a boss level even if you get past the open.
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On June 13 2012 13:11 Dosey wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2012 13:07 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:On June 13 2012 12:56 walklightwhat wrote:On June 13 2012 12:50 thealexw87 wrote:
I'm sorry but it's your job! Your path that you chose! Yeah gosh six hours of sleep and oh no, 12 hour days of playing then waiting and then playing sounds so terrible. I know plenty of players out there who would die to be in your shoes, who are working just as hard. And if you really felt that overwhelmed, hey, back out of a tournament; as in, withdraw! And gosh, I think one weekend a month where you have a crazy three days of playing isn't so bad. This goes for Idra, Sheth and all those other pros complaning about dual tourneys. Just because you chose a job doesn't mean you lose the right to complain when a situation is handled poorly. Especially if it prevents you from doing the job to the best of your ability, in fact that's exactly when -any- worker should complain. Idra made the choice to play in two tournaments in one weekend, he has no right to complain about his performance issues. What did he honestly expect? he went into MLG already knowing that he was in the open bracket which is in itself a brutal run and still participated in WCS and he's surprised that he had to play such long hours. I have a solution. DONT PLAY IN TWO TOURNAMENTS AT ONE TIME. Simple as that. It's not like MLG or blizzard are forcing him to play in both at the same time. The problem here is that everyone else has gotten a chance to play their own WCS without this issue. And now suddenly Americans are punished simply because it is convenient for the organizers. So they are faced with a very difficult decision. Do they give up on MLG, where placing and playing in their tournaments play a major role in seeding? Do they give up on WCS, because they would prefer to get that seed in MLG? Or do they try their hand at both and suffer through because both are equally important to their careers?
Life isn't fair. Welcome to the real world where everyone doesn't get the same opportunities. As for the bolded part, YES. Make a choice. You're an adult.
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Wait, Mrvoodoochild, what about the part of where they don't have a choice.
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On June 13 2012 13:17 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2012 13:11 Dosey wrote:On June 13 2012 13:07 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:On June 13 2012 12:56 walklightwhat wrote:On June 13 2012 12:50 thealexw87 wrote:
I'm sorry but it's your job! Your path that you chose! Yeah gosh six hours of sleep and oh no, 12 hour days of playing then waiting and then playing sounds so terrible. I know plenty of players out there who would die to be in your shoes, who are working just as hard. And if you really felt that overwhelmed, hey, back out of a tournament; as in, withdraw! And gosh, I think one weekend a month where you have a crazy three days of playing isn't so bad. This goes for Idra, Sheth and all those other pros complaning about dual tourneys. Just because you chose a job doesn't mean you lose the right to complain when a situation is handled poorly. Especially if it prevents you from doing the job to the best of your ability, in fact that's exactly when -any- worker should complain. Idra made the choice to play in two tournaments in one weekend, he has no right to complain about his performance issues. What did he honestly expect? he went into MLG already knowing that he was in the open bracket which is in itself a brutal run and still participated in WCS and he's surprised that he had to play such long hours. I have a solution. DONT PLAY IN TWO TOURNAMENTS AT ONE TIME. Simple as that. It's not like MLG or blizzard are forcing him to play in both at the same time. The problem here is that everyone else has gotten a chance to play their own WCS without this issue. And now suddenly Americans are punished simply because it is convenient for the organizers. So they are faced with a very difficult decision. Do they give up on MLG, where placing and playing in their tournaments play a major role in seeding? Do they give up on WCS, because they would prefer to get that seed in MLG? Or do they try their hand at both and suffer through because both are equally important to their careers? Life isn't fair. Welcome to the real world where everyone doesn't get the same opportunities. As for the bolded part, YES. Make a choice. You're an adult.
Life isn't fair, but tournaments try to be. Even if they don't schedule the events at different times there could be an easy fix to this problem with different scheduling or something. There's no reason not to draw attention to this and hope for a fix. If the tournaments care about game quality and the legitimacy of their games they will do something at least.
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On June 13 2012 13:18 Whole wrote:
Wait, Mrvoodoochild, what about the part of where they don't have a choice.
LiFe IsNt FaRe DoOd!!!111!! DeeL wIt iT
Ignore the troll.
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Hahahaha i was like "Yea, sick run of SaSe look at the 12937089127398 Games he had to play."
And then i remembered there was ViBe destroying the WCS. And i remembered asking a friend why there was Vibe playing for first place and playing really bad (and winning..) but yea, this insane schedule makes everyone look bad.
Nice read IdrA atleast some guys speaking up.
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I strongly agree.
I understand the cost perspective to an extent, but I feel that the events really should have been done separately. Having both at near simultaneous times makes it much harder on both players and fans. Players must choose to sacrifice either the quality of their play, or one event. Poor North America. Goshdarn Blizzard, you LIVE here. Don't be so cheap.
As for the fans... (or this fan)
Honestly, I feel MLG was much better advertised than WCS as well. I remember there was the finals of WCS and it was daisuki vs... someone. Oh right, vibe. I remembered finally. The only reason I remember daisuke was because they were mispronouncing his name wrong on the first day... If you take a look at the MLG thread, you'll see hundred of posts wondering who some of these WCS players are.
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