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ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-09 02:45:08
June 09 2012 02:44 GMT
#1041
On June 09 2012 11:42 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
I think they should make it so Abduct doesn't work on massive units, or units that are rooted to the ground like Siege tanks and burrowed units, then lower the energy cost so it's worth it to use on smaller units.

LOL, you are so funny. Abduct shouldn't work on massive units? That's what they said for neural parasite. -_- I guess us zergs should abduct a marine and use him to threaten the enemy to give up or we kill him?

Hey! This suits your nick, fuzzylogic. I think you just balanced HoTs
Censured
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1060 Posts
June 09 2012 02:44 GMT
#1042
Anyone making comments about balance right now is absolutely ridiculous, and should wear their underwear as hats.
Occupation: Legend
L0thar
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
987 Posts
June 09 2012 02:46 GMT
#1043
....aaand the TvZ battlereport only supported my previous view that Terrans are getting shafted in HoTS. They are getting the weakest (which could be balanced) and most boring (which sadly couldn't) additions from all races.

But the one mine detonation was kinda funny, I'll give you that. Too bad other things were rather cryworthy.

Destroyr
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany299 Posts
June 09 2012 02:47 GMT
#1044
This pseudo spider mines look terrible. Build at the Fac. Move over Map on there own. Attache themselves to a unit (in a certain range !!!). cant be denied. Not slightly as in BW... and yes BW is the thing to beat for them... But yeah A move units are awesome.....
ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
June 09 2012 02:47 GMT
#1045
On June 09 2012 11:46 L0thar wrote:
....aaand the TvZ battlereport only supported my previous view that Terrans are getting shafted in HoTS. They are getting the weakest (which could be balanced) and most boring (which sadly couldn't) additions from all races.

But the one mine detonation was kinda funny, I'll give you that. Too bad other things were rather cryworthy.


Because its a zerg expansion? Like WoL is a terrans game? I hope you do realise you have more units then zerg or protoss currently right?
Ballistixz
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1269 Posts
June 09 2012 02:49 GMT
#1046
On June 09 2012 11:37 Empirimancer wrote:
Abduct will break the game.




it will fix alot of whats wrong with the game. colos are a unit that is is to easy to just mass and win with by A moving. the amount of micro u need to do against the toss deathball is ridiculous considering all they are doing is A moving with FFs here and there.
NeoGeoOdin
Profile Joined October 2011
Colombia140 Posts
June 09 2012 02:50 GMT
#1047
On June 09 2012 11:37 mcmartini wrote:
That terran in the BR was an idiot, didn't build vikings and kept losing his tanks etc

its a showmacht, they just show the new units
L0thar
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
987 Posts
June 09 2012 02:50 GMT
#1048
On June 09 2012 11:47 ImNightmare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 11:46 L0thar wrote:
....aaand the TvZ battlereport only supported my previous view that Terrans are getting shafted in HoTS. They are getting the weakest (which could be balanced) and most boring (which sadly couldn't) additions from all races.

But the one mine detonation was kinda funny, I'll give you that. Too bad other things were rather cryworthy.


Because its a zerg expansion? Like WoL is a terrans game? I hope you do realise you have more units then zerg or protoss currently right?


WoL's not Terran game, where the fuck that sentinent comes from? It's singleplayer is T centered, just as HotS will be Z centered. Multiplayer experience should be equally balanced and fun for all races, otherwise Blizz is failing big time.
Elvin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
149 Posts
June 09 2012 02:50 GMT
#1049
On June 09 2012 11:38 Elvin wrote:
Can anyone link me to the TvZ HotS battle report everyone talks about here?


Please respond
vesicular
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1310 Posts
June 09 2012 02:50 GMT
#1050
Everyone so concerned about this should go watch Battle Report #1 for WoL.
STX Fighting!
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
June 09 2012 02:50 GMT
#1051
On June 09 2012 11:47 ImNightmare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 11:46 L0thar wrote:
....aaand the TvZ battlereport only supported my previous view that Terrans are getting shafted in HoTS. They are getting the weakest (which could be balanced) and most boring (which sadly couldn't) additions from all races.

But the one mine detonation was kinda funny, I'll give you that. Too bad other things were rather cryworthy.


Because its a zerg expansion? Like WoL is a terrans game? I hope you do realise you have more units then zerg or protoss currently right?


Doesn't help me if alot of them just suck balls.
SolidMoose
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1240 Posts
June 09 2012 02:50 GMT
#1052
On June 09 2012 11:47 ImNightmare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 11:46 L0thar wrote:
....aaand the TvZ battlereport only supported my previous view that Terrans are getting shafted in HoTS. They are getting the weakest (which could be balanced) and most boring (which sadly couldn't) additions from all races.

But the one mine detonation was kinda funny, I'll give you that. Too bad other things were rather cryworthy.


Because its a zerg expansion? Like WoL is a terrans game? I hope you do realise you have more units then zerg or protoss currently right?


Why do people keep insisting that it's ok for a race to be OP because it's "their expansion"? That makes no sense. Maybe we should all just switch to protoss because they are allowed to be broken in the last expansion.
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
June 09 2012 02:51 GMT
#1053
On June 09 2012 11:50 Elvin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 11:38 Elvin wrote:
Can anyone link me to the TvZ HotS battle report everyone talks about here?


Please respond

it was live on the MLG stream before the symbol/mk game
alexanderzero
Profile Joined June 2008
United States659 Posts
June 09 2012 02:52 GMT
#1054
I love everything they're showing with the exception of the warhound maybe (but I haven't really looked at it too closely). I think they need to make the widow mines better though because they don't seem very good for how expensive they are. It really isn't a big deterrent if it doesn't punish carelessness.

Anyways, I kinda wish that Terran was getting as much cool stuff as Zerg and Protoss is. As far as balance goes I'm sure it will get figured out. I just wish the Terran stuff was as creative and cool as the Zerg/Toss stuff is.

For spectators HoTS is gonna be seriously awesome. I loved the battle report even though those guys are clearly not pro caliber. It's gonna be insane to see what kinds of new tactics come about.
I am a tournament organizazer.
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
June 09 2012 02:52 GMT
#1055
On June 09 2012 11:47 Destroyr wrote:
This pseudo spider mines look terrible. Build at the Fac. Move over Map on there own. Attache themselves to a unit (in a certain range !!!). cant be denied. Not slightly as in BW... and yes BW is the thing to beat for them... But yeah A move units are awesome.....

I'd load them into a Medevac. Then I'd use them for annihilating workers lines.

Hell, load some with mines, load some with marines, and do multi-pronged drops.
kevinmon
Profile Joined January 2011
United States540 Posts
June 09 2012 02:52 GMT
#1056
On June 09 2012 11:10 JuneMay wrote:
Terran: Overall I think they did good job. I see lots of people are scared that tanks are gonna be useless. But I'm thinking now with battle-helions there is possibility to make TvT even more fun. First they should make BH weak vs marines. And second they should buff tanks vs marines. So now you have scenario BH > Tanks > Marines > BH. If they could make this while keeping balance vs other match-ups it would be great. I also love those mines.

Zerg: I think they did perfect job. I love units like vipers where you need to think more strategically compared to just attack move. Also that swarm is very nice unit. Its great positional unit.

Protoss: I think they went too much here. Mass recall, mass cloak, deny mining, cannon base... and that stupid tempest. I hate boring units like that. I mean, it doesn't have to be imbalanced to suck. It can also be very boring. Its just click attack unit. Personally I think they should just tweak carrier and make it more viable. That unit have so much potential and to show people with true multitask skill. I suggest swap tempest for carrier, some minor balance tweaks and protoss would be also great.

Agree with all this.
ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
June 09 2012 02:52 GMT
#1057
On June 09 2012 11:50 L0thar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 11:47 ImNightmare wrote:
On June 09 2012 11:46 L0thar wrote:
....aaand the TvZ battlereport only supported my previous view that Terrans are getting shafted in HoTS. They are getting the weakest (which could be balanced) and most boring (which sadly couldn't) additions from all races.

But the one mine detonation was kinda funny, I'll give you that. Too bad other things were rather cryworthy.


Because its a zerg expansion? Like WoL is a terrans game? I hope you do realise you have more units then zerg or protoss currently right?


WoL's not Terran game, where the fuck that sentinent comes from? It's singleplayer is T centered, just as HotS will be Z centered. Multiplayer experience should be equally balanced and fun for all races, otherwise Blizz is failing big time.

Because it is, blizzard already said Wing's of liberty is a TERRAN'S GAME. You have the most units now. Of course you won't have 5 more units. And in case you didn't count, HoTs allows zerg to have the same amount of units as terran.
WHyTePoWeR
Profile Joined May 2012
Korea (South)132 Posts
June 09 2012 02:52 GMT
#1058
On June 09 2012 11:49 Ballistixz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 11:37 Empirimancer wrote:
Abduct will break the game.




it will fix alot of whats wrong with the game. colos are a unit that is is to easy to just mass and win with by A moving. the amount of micro u need to do against the toss deathball is ridiculous considering all they are doing is A moving with FFs here and there.



The exact same can be said about brood lord corruptor infestor
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
June 09 2012 02:52 GMT
#1059
On June 09 2012 11:42 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
I think they should make it so Abduct doesn't work on massive units, or units that are rooted to the ground like Siege tanks and burrowed units, then lower the energy cost so it's worth it to use on smaller units.

No real point microing to pull 1-3 small units. The best bet for now is to make the Abduct skill a required research (maybe at Hive tech or something) or to significantly increase its casting cost. Hope that it somehow works out.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-09 02:53:37
June 09 2012 02:53 GMT
#1060
On June 09 2012 11:50 SolidMoose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 11:47 ImNightmare wrote:
On June 09 2012 11:46 L0thar wrote:
....aaand the TvZ battlereport only supported my previous view that Terrans are getting shafted in HoTS. They are getting the weakest (which could be balanced) and most boring (which sadly couldn't) additions from all races.

But the one mine detonation was kinda funny, I'll give you that. Too bad other things were rather cryworthy.


Because its a zerg expansion? Like WoL is a terrans game? I hope you do realise you have more units then zerg or protoss currently right?


Why do people keep insisting that it's ok for a race to be OP because it's "their expansion"? That makes no sense. Maybe we should all just switch to protoss because they are allowed to be broken in the last expansion.

Wow? You do know its not balanced yet AND nerfs will come in place just like what happen to terran units? And I was talking about the amount of units. You are the type of player TLO just tweet.
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