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ETisME
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HeroHenry
United States1723 Posts
On June 13 2012 11:57 ETisME wrote: wow didn't expect so many bw channels making the switch so quickly There's only 1 bw channel o_o | ||
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fabiano
Brazil4644 Posts
I think having that would legitimize the profession. There must be some kind of regulation, as it is rightnow everything is a huge mess and could fall apart soon if kept that way. A central organization to setup the player/team contract parameters, to judge litigations and to organize teams is crucial. In football we have FIFA, CONMEBOL, CONCACAF, CBF and so on (don't really know the rest :s) to keep everything organized. FIFA sets the most general rules that everyone must follow, CONMEBOL follows those rules and adjusts new ones to the reality of the south american football and CBF does the same for the reality of the brazilian football. CBF works as a representative of the brazilian football scene in CONMEBOL, they both work together to regularize the brazilian seeds into south american leagues (Copa Libertadores, Sul Americana, etc). CONMEBOL in the other hand works with FIFA to protect/defend the south american interests in the international scene (SA seeds into WC, for example). All these organizations work together to keep the local/regional/international football scene running healthy and organized. If "eSports" wants to be taken seriously, the same thing should exist, but on the proper scale of course. | ||
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usethis2
2164 Posts
On June 13 2012 12:02 fabiano wrote: What is wrong about progamer license? Managers/Coaches/Corporate interests or ego-conflicts hindering young players' freedom for one. And I don't think of SC2 as an esports is some sort of nationalic events like soccer. Had that been the case we would have national/regional quota systems for most global events. SC2 is more about individuals and their skillZ. Check out how entertainment industry (especially music industry) works out for individual talents with regards to the contracts. | ||
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Veldril
Thailand1817 Posts
On June 13 2012 10:21 Kiyo. wrote: Pretty sure SlayerS isn't sponsored by Intel or Razer anymore. They lost their big sponsors recently from what I can tell. Not sure about Intel (I think the contract expired), but I won't be surprised if Razer part way with Slayers because Slayers enter into a partnership with EG, which is pretty much a Steelseries team. But I don't think Slayers lose that much though, since they have enough money to recently move to a bigger team house(s), so I think they are still financially secured. | ||
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usethis2
2164 Posts
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
On June 13 2012 12:02 fabiano wrote: What is wrong about progamer license? I think having that would legitimize the profession. There must be some kind of regulation, as it is rightnow everything is a huge mess and could fall apart soon if kept that way. A central organization to setup the player/team contract parameters, to judge litigations and to organize teams is crucial. In football we have FIFA, CONMEBOL, CONCACAF, CBF and so on (don't really know the rest :s) to keep everything organized. FIFA sets the most general rules that everyone must follow, CONMEBOL follows those rules and adjusts new ones to the reality of the south american football and CBF does the same for the reality of the brazilian football. CBF works as a representative of the brazilian football scene in CONMEBOL, they both work together to regularize the brazilian seeds into south american leagues (Copa Libertadores, Sul Americana, etc). CONMEBOL in the other hand works with FIFA to protect/defend the south american interests in the international scene (SA seeds into WC, for example). All these organizations work together to keep the local/regional/international football scene running healthy and organized. If "eSports" wants to be taken seriously, the same thing should exist, but on the proper scale of course. Well I like your point that an organization that mimics the same function of a real life sport organization should made appearance in competitive computer games . But in the end what use of it of such organizations when we are not sure which games are going to last ? Sports do not change everyday although there will be minor rules change but the game still remains the same . Competitive computer game sports change every time a developer comes out a new game in the market how is this viable and organization will be able to keep with such a change ? . The market is just too volatile for a solid foundation to handle it right now until we can label a game that is really good and accessible to all players around the globe and they are in agreement that this is a game that is worthy of competitive computer game than it will be accepted. | ||
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fabiano
Brazil4644 Posts
What there is is seasonal competitive gaming. Damn savior..... | ||
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diehilde
Germany1596 Posts
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zazone
Romania460 Posts
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Veldril
Thailand1817 Posts
On June 13 2012 13:13 diehilde wrote: Im so disappointed in blizz right now its really sad. I cant believe the same company that made the best game ever which had me hooked for 10 years is now milking customers like cows, releases absurdly shitty games (d3) and is now responsible for killing bw for good and replacing it with a mediocre rts at best (in comparison). Only thing that is somehwat of a relieve is that I know sc2 will never get such legendary status and will surely be milked dry in 5 years and completely forgotten. But hey, I guess sc3 will be around the corner then. In my teens I was so naive to believe bw could be pretty timeless like chess but I realized it wouldnt happen long before sc2 was released. Well, its still a long way to go before computer games can really become something like sports. E-sports? Lol, ppl are kidding themselves. Blaming everything on Blizz is kinda too stretch, in my opinion. I don't really think KesPa would transition to SC2 if they are not this desperate. Why would they want to transition out of a game that definitely has a larger fanbase to an untested game? It's just that BW could not draw any more sponsorship for their leagues anymore so KesPa has to transition. Something is very wrong when the most prestigious league (SPL, OSL) could not find any sponsor for their league and has to rely on internal sponsorship (CJ and SK), while the online-viewing only tournament like GSL could find a sponsor three seasons in a row, albeit small ones (Hot6ix and now Monsieur J). And for eSport, it depends on how you would define the word itself. If you define it as "a game with professional tournament that would transcend the time and remain forever", then eSport is most likely does not exist because the game will always be built around technology and technology is moving forward. But if you view it as "a competitive gaming that display dedication of players, with professional tournaments and teams that provide their incomes", then eSports exist as a whole with all games being a part of it. So the goal between the two mind sets would also be different. For me who believe eSports is more of the second thought, I think the goal of growing eSport is to improve the competitive scene and community, while branching out so that more people will find "watching other players playing game" entertaining. It's not about one game, it's about the concept of playing games competitively becomes accepted as a source of entertainment, while trying to build as large fanbase as possible for the transition to the next game when the time comes. On June 13 2012 16:19 zazone wrote: if they have trouble finding sponsors for BW, how are they going to fund a SCToo OSL when its popularity its so low ? GSL can find sponsors, despite not as large as BW used to have. So I think it depends on how large the sponsor KesPa and OGN want. If they want something to big, then they would be less likely to find a sponsor, unless they could find an international company that would be more willing to sponsor because it would reach the global audience too. | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50600 Posts
On June 13 2012 16:19 zazone wrote: if they have trouble finding sponsors for BW, how are they going to fund a SCToo OSL when its popularity its so low ? Blizzard monies | ||
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Ruscour
5233 Posts
Doubt it...aren't there rumours of Blizzard taking 50% of OGN's revenue or something? GSL is doing just fine for sponsors, considering they just got a new one from a mainstream brand, which was higher than their previous offer (because Hot6ix stated they wanted to sponsor for another two seasons but now there's a new title sponsor). SC2 doesn't need Riot to be an eSport. | ||
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AsymptoticClimax
United Kingdom249 Posts
speaking purely anecdotal here but starcraft fans seem to be alot more dedicated to blizzard/sc2 leagues than LoL fans are to riot/LoLleagues. im sure if you look at the numbers, a larger % of people who own sc will watch sc than LoL players will watch LoL. just take a look at MLG and the proof is right there. | ||
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mostevil
United Kingdom611 Posts
On June 13 2012 23:38 AsymptoticClimax wrote: speaking purely anecdotal here but starcraft fans seem to be alot more dedicated to blizzard/sc2 leagues than LoL fans are to riot/LoLleagues. im sure if you look at the numbers, a larger % of people who own sc will watch sc than LoL players will watch LoL. just take a look at MLG and the proof is right there. Perhaps, but it being free and easy means the LoLites horriblly outnumber us starcraft fans/players.. just look at viewer numbers. Unless the various DOTA's massively dilute the market it could be where esports ends up (and if that happens I'd happily fire the shot that kills esports myself). At least HoTS looks like SC2's getting a bit more broodwar-y. Hopefully we'll get a more creative skillfull game we can all get behind it eventually! | ||
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Inhumane
Canada145 Posts
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Clefairy
1570 Posts
Qualifiers will be Bo3 on WCS Antiga Shipyard, WCS Entombed Valley, WCS Ohana Registrations can be done here: http://sc2.esportsnjoy.com/request Brackets will be revealed on June 25th. In case there are any foreign players who want to register the fields are in this order Name Date of Birth (year-month-day) Gender (first option is male, second is female) Phone (without hyphens) Battle net ID Race (first option is Terran, second option is Protoss, third option is Zerg) Character name Character code Battle net tag Ladder screenshot (attach a screenshot so they can confirm your ladder points) Other information (write anything you want about yourself) Password for editing (enter a password for when you need to edit your registration details) Write the thing in the image Then click the button below. | ||
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MCXD
Australia2738 Posts
On June 15 2012 12:37 Clefairy wrote: They're accepting registrations for the qualifiers from June 15th to 17th. Qualifiers occur on July 2nd and 3rd. Everyone that is a part of FXO, LG-IM, MVP, NSH, Prime, SlayerS, StarTale, TSL, ZeNEX can take part. Anyone not in those teams must be at least master league as of Season 7. Participants must have their own account and be over 12 years of age. Qualifiers will be Bo3 on WCS Antiga Shipyard, WCS Entombed Valley, WCS Ohana Are there any KR GM foreigners? It would be especially interesting to see a foreigner do well in the OSL. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On June 15 2012 12:40 MCXD wrote: Are there any KR GM foreigners? It would be especially interesting to see a foreigner do well in the OSL. they don't need to be GM, just masters. | ||
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Talack
Canada2742 Posts
On June 13 2012 16:19 zazone wrote: if they have trouble finding sponsors for BW, how are they going to fund a SCToo OSL when its popularity its so low ? Because it's alot more popular out-side of korea, big problem with BW was that beside being a niche there was no market outside of korea. | ||
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