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archonOOid
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zmansman17
United States2567 Posts
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
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JiPrime
Canada688 Posts
On June 13 2012 02:56 archonOOid wrote: As the bw is popular with korean fan girls what will happen when sc2 takes over? Will there fandom cross over to a new game where their heroes have to fight in a new setting and is sc2 really appealing to girls? I think that the mainstream success lies in the fact that handsome bw pros broadened the demographic to include more girls in Korea. Therefore sc2 must appeal to girls both through game-play and the attractiveness of the players. Most fangirls in Korea don't even understand the metagame perfectly anyways. All SC2 needs is another BoxeR or Flash to fawn over and we're good. A better tutorial for all three races can help too. | ||
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alexanderzero
United States659 Posts
On June 13 2012 02:56 archonOOid wrote: As the bw is popular with korean fan girls what will happen when sc2 takes over? Will there fandom cross over to a new game where their heroes have to fight in a new setting and is sc2 really appealing to girls? I think that the mainstream success lies in the fact that handsome bw pros broadened the demographic to include more girls in Korea. Therefore sc2 must appeal to girls both through game-play and the attractiveness of the players. Well there are some handsome guys in SC2 already even before the BW pros switch over. MarineKing is cute and sexy, MMA is apparently popular with the ladies, MVP is handsome and has an air of maturity, DRG isn't bad looking, and some of the less successful players are certainly good looking. All of these players also have pretty distinct styles of play. I think once the BW pros join the mix it will be a popular scene. | ||
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ShiroKaisen
United States1082 Posts
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sM.Zik
Canada2553 Posts
On June 13 2012 06:19 ShiroKaisen wrote: So, when I interviewed TBLS at MLG Anaheim, they didn't seem to realize that the OS2L was going to have non-KeSPA players in it and were very confused...I hope they KNOW. If we, random fan over the globe on the internet, are aware of this fact, I believe the kespa players know it.. Maybe they we're just confused with the question? | ||
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ShiroKaisen
United States1082 Posts
On June 13 2012 06:22 sM.Zik wrote: If we, random fan over the globe on the internet, are aware of this fact, I believe the kespa players know it.. Maybe they we're just confused with the question? I'm not so sure. It's possible they were too busy with the KeSPA Invitational, practicing for Proleague, etc, and weren't reading the announcements on sites or forums. Remember, Bisu didn't know he was playing at MLG when Wax interviewed him. | ||
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sM.Zik
Canada2553 Posts
On June 13 2012 06:27 ShiroKaisen wrote: I'm not so sure. It's possible they were too busy with the KeSPA Invitational, practicing for Proleague, etc, and weren't reading the announcements on sites or forums. Remember, Bisu didn't know he was playing at MLG when Wax interviewed him. Well then this is weird that their coach and manager don't take the time to tell them such important things ! | ||
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usethis2
2164 Posts
Basically they want to grab the current SC2 pros out of the existing teams. They know it is inevitable for young talents, and teams without long-term sponsers. (Just see how oGs has disbanded, or how ZeNex loses up and coming players they've found) Only competitive SC2 teams so far are IM (sponsored by LG) and Slayers (sponsored by Intel). No team is safe, and even the top players who chose foreign teams might eventually be pressured. It is a direct challenge on GomTV to an extent, but Gom has Blizzard on their side. As long as they keep things fair, as a fan, all I hope is the players have the maximum freedom. (not the sponsors and coaches, or anyone else really) But don't be surprised if they do an about-face (such as "pro-gamer license") depending on how things develop. | ||
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usethis2
2164 Posts
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SpiZe
Canada3640 Posts
On June 13 2012 03:55 JiPrime wrote: Most fangirls in Korea don't even understand the metagame perfectly anyways. All SC2 needs is another BoxeR or Flash to fawn over and we're good. A better tutorial for all three races can help too. Bisu* http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/treehugger/Bisu.jpg I had to search long and hard for this picture  | ||
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Nazza
Australia1654 Posts
On June 12 2012 22:56 JiPrime wrote: SC2 already surpassed BW in some ways already. I mean, let's take off our nostalgia goggles here, BW scene ended up as circlejerk among koreaboos and koreans, with most foreigners not even giving a damn about it and WCG only being the worthwhile international exposure. To be honest, I wish the scene will grow independent of KeSPA's influence without having one particular side having dominant control over the scene. They should keep what SC2 scene has built up from scratch instead of abandoning it in favor of "building on top of BW." Don't abandon GOMTV guys. ;_; Keeping the way things are as of right now is the best way to ensure a better future for eSports. Yeah ironically the foreigners who gave a damn about it made this website and the SC2 foreign scene as you know it now. | ||
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Kiyo.
United States2284 Posts
On June 13 2012 08:23 usethis2 wrote: Some of you don't realize why they're opening the door for anyone. I can tell you it is "for now," and there is more to it than meets the eye. Basically they want to grab the current SC2 pros out of the existing teams. They know it is inevitable for young talents, and teams without long-term sponsers. (Just see how oGs has disbanded, or how ZeNex loses up and coming players they've found) Only competitive SC2 teams so far are IM (sponsored by LG) and Slayers (sponsored by Intel). No team is safe, and even the top players who chose foreign teams might eventually be pressured. It is a direct challenge on GomTV to an extent, but Gom has Blizzard on their side. As long as they keep things fair, as a fan, all I hope is the players have the maximum freedom. (not the sponsors and coaches, or anyone else really) But don't be surprised if they do an about-face (such as "pro-gamer license") depending on how things develop. Pretty sure SlayerS isn't sponsored by Intel or Razer anymore. They lost their big sponsors recently from what I can tell. | ||
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KenZo-
Faroe Islands190 Posts
On June 06 2012 09:28 vorxaw wrote: True, still sad though. Ill be even sadder when sc2 dies in place of sc3, I will probably be to slow to learn a new game then. It's ok, you probably won't be alive to see it anyways  On topic, this is huge... sad face for BW but I agree it had to happen sooner or later, and HotS is soon to be released. So BE pros will have a chance at that game from the start. GL OGN | ||
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hnQ
113 Posts
Just pay your respects and move on, SC2 is a good game. GL BW Pros, want to see you do good | ||
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
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usethis2
2164 Posts
On June 13 2012 10:21 Kiyo. wrote: Pretty sure SlayerS isn't sponsored by Intel or Razer anymore. They lost their big sponsors recently from what I can tell. Boxer has been on Intel's commercials in Korea. It is well known that he was given a large trust fund by Intel to form a new team sirca 2010. No one knows for sure the details of the deal between the two, but it's not the kind of sponsorship that you simply withdraw when you want. (It's not like a few million bucks make a dent in Intel's budget. It's a chump change for them) | ||
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PlosionCornu
Italy814 Posts
On June 13 2012 08:23 usethis2 wrote: Some of you don't realize why they're opening the door for anyone. I can tell you it is "for now," and there is more to it than meets the eye. Basically they want to grab the current SC2 pros out of the existing teams. They know it is inevitable for young talents, and teams without long-term sponsers. (Just see how oGs has disbanded, or how ZeNex loses up and coming players they've found) Only competitive SC2 teams so far are IM (sponsored by LG) and Slayers (sponsored by Intel). No team is safe, and even the top players who chose foreign teams might eventually be pressured. It is a direct challenge on GomTV to an extent, but Gom has Blizzard on their side. As long as they keep things fair, as a fan, all I hope is the players have the maximum freedom. (not the sponsors and coaches, or anyone else really) But don't be surprised if they do an about-face (such as "pro-gamer license") depending on how things develop. No I don't think so, atleast that should not be the case. Remember this is OGN, which is a tv station, not kespa directly. As such they must be looking out to grab a wider audience (current korean sc2 pros and possibly foreigners). | ||
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usethis2
2164 Posts
On June 13 2012 11:37 PlosionCornu wrote: No I don't think so, atleast that should not be the case. Remember this is OGN, which is a tv station, not kespa directly. As such they must be looking out to grab a wider audience (current korean sc2 pros and possibly foreigners). Yes, exactly. And that would not happen if current BW pros aren't up to the task (which is a big question mark). Fans will immediately note the difference of quality of games. For them this is a perfect chance for market force to work it out for them. They can get rid of BW pros who are not making succesful transitions without much criticism (in Korea where normally mutual loyalty is valued), at the same time they can lure out young talents with huge potentials from existing SC2 teams. (Those who are struggling in Code B are prime target. Think of, say, CreatorPrime of 6 months ago) "Target" may be a wrong word. As I said, the force of free-market will do it for them. And I have no objection to it. What I'm concerned is what might happen afterward (i.e. once the market settles) When they feel like they have sufficient power over players, they can and will exert enormous power over players. For example: Kespa players exclusive to MLG outside Korea - For MLG, it's a natural and a right move to make as a business so I don't fault them at all. But imagine a Kespa player participating (or, however unlikely, being invited to) a Dreamhak event. Kespa can easily revoke the player's "license" for all I know. Yeah I know OGN and Kespa are different organizations but that's like saying GOM and Blizzard are different corporations (till now). | ||
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