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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16124 Posts
June 01 2012 16:25 GMT
#221
Groups F and G are fucking intense.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
GuitarBizarre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom332 Posts
June 01 2012 16:26 GMT
#222
On June 02 2012 00:27 Chunhyang wrote:
Oh dear MKP.

Parting just beat you.
Symbol just whacked you.
Yugioh just swatted you.

I wish you the best.

Edit: Group G. Gu, Oz, Let, Ru. Motherfucking Goddamn.


I suspect MKP will rise to the occasion.
In retrospect, I don't know how you can play StarCraft without swearing. - Eifer
Flowjo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States928 Posts
June 01 2012 16:33 GMT
#223
On June 01 2012 17:31 kaztal wrote:
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On June 01 2012 17:21 polyphonyEX wrote:
NaNiwa and Nestea in the same group... rofl

Couldn't help but noticing that as well, heh.

I'll be over here rooting for Sweden.


How surprising. Go Nestea
IMNestea's biggest fan.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46200 Posts
June 01 2012 16:39 GMT
#224
On June 02 2012 00:56 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2012 00:53 McKTenor13 wrote:
On June 02 2012 00:44 Crownlol wrote:
On June 02 2012 00:40 Sankanyo wrote:
Sick groups!!~
But wait, did Stephano deny his code s spot again?



Yeah wth, I expected to see Stephano in this...


He's joining next GSL. He's said in interviews he wasn't going to Korea until mid-late summer.


He also said he's only staying for one month, which is not long enough to compete in the entire tournament.

Don't get your hopes up.


I wonder why this is the case. Since he decided to stick around the scene for another year, I thought for sure he'd play some Code S rounds.

As the top foreigner, he's proven himself in pretty much every tournament except for the premier one. And considering he can simply get seeded into Code S of the GSL, I don't see why he wouldn't do this. Perhaps he feels it would take away too much time from other tournaments, and that he could win more money traveling internationally?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
June 01 2012 16:41 GMT
#225
Grp A: Hum, poor TL, I go with : Byun, Curious (Oftentimes Curious convinces me with clever and strong play to only fall apart after I bet on him, will it happen again xD?)
Grp B: Creator, Nestea - Creator will make it 2-0 (in series), he is very good @ pvp and pvz (imo pvt may be his worst MU) and will overcome naniwa and nestea, and Nestea to beat TheSTC and Naniwa.
Grp C: Squirtle, Gumiho - Gumiho has some good TvT Skills, he may even make first place.
Grp D: Genius, MVP - I like Line, I like Zenex, but he is not Code S calibre. Happy will fall to MVP in the 5th series.
Grp E: Supernova, Ganzi - MC looked more solid in PvT lately, but I honestly think, his builds and strategies are outdated and will be figured out due to the large preparation time for Supernova and Ganzi.
Grp F: Marineking, Symbol - Sry Parting Bro! But one matchup won't carry you through this time!
Grp G: DRG, Maru - Oz looked very shaky lately and this group is very hard. And for Violet, I don't think the GSL System with the amount of preperation time fits to him, don't expect too much here!
Grp H: Ace, Leenock - I don't like Ace anymore after he showed to be a very bad loser (GSTL final) in his post-U/D Interview. But you have to accept that he might be the best player in this grp and showed to be mentally stable. Leenock will ride on his beastly ZvT to 2nd place.

I think the player pool we have here is insane. Everyone is just really good, so each group is really hard to pedict and we will see a lot of surprises.
thrawn1020
Profile Joined April 2011
United States32 Posts
June 01 2012 16:50 GMT
#226
On June 01 2012 20:37 Roarer wrote:
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On June 01 2012 20:09 thrawn1020 wrote:
On June 01 2012 20:00 SilentSC2 wrote:
Do they choose their groups? I thought that only happens when it's time for Ro16?


As has happened for the last 2 GSL, Winner and Runner Up choose their first opponent from Tier 4, then have the other two chosen for them(1 each out of Tier 2 and 3). All other groups are selected not on a totally random basis, but rather, the first matches pair Tier 1 opponents with Tier 4, and Tier 2 with Tier 3. (Which means I was wrong about Squirtle selecting Thorzain...Byun would be a scary choice, and PvP is probably not a great choice either.) Group Selection will commence in Ro16 with the top 4 GSL points for the year in the round of 16 getting to pick a group and their first opponent. Which group they pick does determine where the two who come out will go in the bracket for the final 8. Then each person picked picks one player for the group, then the players picked for a group second complete the process by picking the final 4 players..


Just like you said in an earlier post, Squirtle did not choose Keen... Squirtle is the runner up..so he is the one who pick Thorzain....cannot see why you are wrong...Am I missing sth ?.?


Re: what I had meant earlier

I had meant that I viewed Keen as a better choice than Thorzain. I had forgotten that Squirtle was required to pick a player from Tier 4. and Keen finds himself in Tier 3, if only barely. That leaves Thorzain or Ghostking as the two terran options, with Violet, Symbol, and Sniper as the remaining Zerg options. And IF Squirtle wanted to PvP for his first match, Creator and Ace would be the two choices.

Given that the play of Ghostking is pretty scary, and that Violet/Symbol have done really well overseas, that leaves the real options as Thorzain or Sniper. But even Sniper has looked really scary over the last two seasons of Code A. Had MvP left Suhoshin, I would imagine Squirtle would have picked him. As it stands, I endorse the pick of Thorzain.
Good things come to those who are aggressive!
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-01 16:58:39
June 01 2012 16:51 GMT
#227
On June 02 2012 01:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2012 00:56 Dodgin wrote:
On June 02 2012 00:53 McKTenor13 wrote:
On June 02 2012 00:44 Crownlol wrote:
On June 02 2012 00:40 Sankanyo wrote:
Sick groups!!~
But wait, did Stephano deny his code s spot again?



Yeah wth, I expected to see Stephano in this...


He's joining next GSL. He's said in interviews he wasn't going to Korea until mid-late summer.


He also said he's only staying for one month, which is not long enough to compete in the entire tournament.

Don't get your hopes up.


I wonder why this is the case. Since he decided to stick around the scene for another year, I thought for sure he'd play some Code S rounds.

As the top foreigner, he's proven himself in pretty much every tournament except for the premier one. And considering he can simply get seeded into Code S of the GSL, I don't see why he wouldn't do this. Perhaps he feels it would take away too much time from other tournaments, and that he could win more money traveling internationally?


That's probably it, you only really get a good amount of money ( compared to how long the season is and the time/practice commitment involved ) for coming top 2 in GSL and sure Stephano is good, but can he really just waltz into the GSL and get to the finals? doubtful. He knows it himself which is why he will continue to play at international weekend tournaments and make easy money. He has said himself he doesn't care about being the best player and he only wants to earn money, so winning the GSL has no meaning to him only the 45k he would get from it does.

GSL is a huge time commitment and he can make comparable money to ro4 GSL in a single weekend by placing top 3 at an event.

Hero made $4,455 for ro4 Code S last season, Stephano made $5,500 for placing third at the red bull battlegrounds. For time invested it seems like the obvious choice is to continue to wreck the weekend tournaments and ignore GSL.

Of course this will leave fans upset and always with the question " What could have been? " It's unfortunate that he doesn't care enough to participate.

Edit: Please don't confuse this as me saying GSL doesn't pay out enough money to participants, they pay every player in Code A/S which is amazing and their total prize pool for every season is huge. ( $147,920 )
1st_Panzer_Div.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States621 Posts
June 01 2012 16:53 GMT
#228
At first I thought Thorzain was a bit odd... he's unproven in the GSL, but he is by no means bad, and his style may prove troublesome for Squirtle. But then... he is unproven, he's not nearly the best terran in the GSL, and his favorite MU is TvT, so by picking Thorzain, Squirtle basically got 2 terrans. As it ended up with 3 in total, I think Squirtle is easily looking at a 4-0 situation.
Manager, Team RIP ZeeZ
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46200 Posts
June 01 2012 16:57 GMT
#229
On June 02 2012 01:51 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2012 01:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 02 2012 00:56 Dodgin wrote:
On June 02 2012 00:53 McKTenor13 wrote:
On June 02 2012 00:44 Crownlol wrote:
On June 02 2012 00:40 Sankanyo wrote:
Sick groups!!~
But wait, did Stephano deny his code s spot again?



Yeah wth, I expected to see Stephano in this...


He's joining next GSL. He's said in interviews he wasn't going to Korea until mid-late summer.


He also said he's only staying for one month, which is not long enough to compete in the entire tournament.

Don't get your hopes up.


I wonder why this is the case. Since he decided to stick around the scene for another year, I thought for sure he'd play some Code S rounds.

As the top foreigner, he's proven himself in pretty much every tournament except for the premier one. And considering he can simply get seeded into Code S of the GSL, I don't see why he wouldn't do this. Perhaps he feels it would take away too much time from other tournaments, and that he could win more money traveling internationally?


That's probably it, you only really get a good amount of money ( compared to how long the season is and the time/practice commitment involved ) for coming top 2 in GSL and sure Stephano is good, but can he really just waltz into the GSL and get to the finals? doubtful. He knows it himself which is why he will continue to play at international weekend tournaments and make easy money. He has said himself he doesn't care about being the best player and he only wants to earn money, so winning the GSL has no meaning to him only the 45k he would get from it does.

GSL is a huge time commitment and he can make comparable money to ro4 GSL in a single weekend by placing top 3 at an event.

Hero made $4,455 for ro4 Code S last season, Stephano made $5,500 for placing third at the red bull battlegrounds. For time invested it seems like the obvious choice is to continue to wreck the weekend tournaments and ignore GSL.

Of course this will leave fans upset and always with the question " What could have been? " It's unfortunate that he doesn't care enough to participate.


I agree, and thank you for pointing out specific monetary amounts for comparison. Most players go where the money is (teams, tournaments, etc.), even over the chance at more prestige, and that totally makes sense because it's their career/ profession (even if for only a short amount of time). Can't blame Stephano if this is his reasoning, even if it does disappoint his fans (they'll get over it, and hopefully respect his choice). Kid's gotta earn a living, and he's already recognized as a fantastic player.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Smackzilla
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States539 Posts
June 01 2012 17:09 GMT
#230
Time for the Norse god of Pwnage to drop the hammer! Go Thorzain!
You see a mousetrap. I see free cheese and a f&%*ing challenge - Scroobius Pip
thrawn1020
Profile Joined April 2011
United States32 Posts
June 01 2012 17:13 GMT
#231
On June 01 2012 22:15 Inflicted_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2012 20:09 thrawn1020 wrote:
On June 01 2012 20:00 SilentSC2 wrote:
Do they choose their groups? I thought that only happens when it's time for Ro16?


As has happened for the last 2 GSL, Winner and Runner Up choose their first opponent from Tier 4, then have the other two chosen for them(1 each out of Tier 2 and 3). All other groups are selected not on a totally random basis, but rather, the first matches pair Tier 1 opponents with Tier 4, and Tier 2 with Tier 3. (Which means I was wrong about Squirtle selecting Thorzain...Byun would be a scary choice, and PvP is probably not a great choice either.) Group Selection will commence in Ro16 with the top 4 GSL points for the year in the round of 16 getting to pick a group and their first opponent. Which group they pick does determine where the two who come out will go in the bracket for the final 8. Then each person picked picks one player for the group, then the players picked for a group second complete the process by picking the final 4 players.

I know, that's complicated. But it's about as clear as it can be.


They don't get to choose their group location/number at all.
It's:
Group A - 1st in point ranking
Group B - 4th in point ranking
Group C - 3rd in point ranking
Group D - 2nd in point ranking.


I went back and checked, and you are right. Thanks for the clarification; I had forgotten that bit.
Good things come to those who are aggressive!
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5500 Posts
June 01 2012 17:20 GMT
#232
On June 01 2012 17:00 Hypemeup wrote:
I wonder if the zergs will actually play good this time around :x

Lets go ThorZaIN!

I am pretty sure Zergs will do great with the new buff.
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
blamekilly
Profile Joined April 2011
466 Posts
June 01 2012 17:23 GMT
#233
On June 02 2012 01:51 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2012 01:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 02 2012 00:56 Dodgin wrote:
On June 02 2012 00:53 McKTenor13 wrote:
On June 02 2012 00:44 Crownlol wrote:
On June 02 2012 00:40 Sankanyo wrote:
Sick groups!!~
But wait, did Stephano deny his code s spot again?



Yeah wth, I expected to see Stephano in this...


He's joining next GSL. He's said in interviews he wasn't going to Korea until mid-late summer.


He also said he's only staying for one month, which is not long enough to compete in the entire tournament.

Don't get your hopes up.


I wonder why this is the case. Since he decided to stick around the scene for another year, I thought for sure he'd play some Code S rounds.

As the top foreigner, he's proven himself in pretty much every tournament except for the premier one. And considering he can simply get seeded into Code S of the GSL, I don't see why he wouldn't do this. Perhaps he feels it would take away too much time from other tournaments, and that he could win more money traveling internationally?


That's probably it, you only really get a good amount of money ( compared to how long the season is and the time/practice commitment involved ) for coming top 2 in GSL and sure Stephano is good, but can he really just waltz into the GSL and get to the finals? doubtful. He knows it himself which is why he will continue to play at international weekend tournaments and make easy money. He has said himself he doesn't care about being the best player and he only wants to earn money, so winning the GSL has no meaning to him only the 45k he would get from it does.

GSL is a huge time commitment and he can make comparable money to ro4 GSL in a single weekend by placing top 3 at an event.

Hero made $4,455 for ro4 Code S last season, Stephano made $5,500 for placing third at the red bull battlegrounds. For time invested it seems like the obvious choice is to continue to wreck the weekend tournaments and ignore GSL.

Of course this will leave fans upset and always with the question " What could have been? " It's unfortunate that he doesn't care enough to participate.

Edit: Please don't confuse this as me saying GSL doesn't pay out enough money to participants, they pay every player in Code A/S which is amazing and their total prize pool for every season is huge. ( $147,920 )



I don't know why people care so much about what he does. He has no long term plans when it comes to SC2 and probably won't even be around next year. He's just a player looking to make as much money as he can in a short period of time. You can't fault him for that, I certainly don't. It's not always about the money though. Some players(Naniwa and Jinro for example) want to prove to themselves and also to the world that they can compete with the very best. They're willing to give up the chance to make more money to do so.
GunPaladin
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1205 Posts
June 01 2012 17:38 GMT
#234
I don't understand why people are voting for group F when Parting and MKP are obvious favorites.
The doctors gave me 9 months to live, ]BIG[ gave me a life time.
jobber123rd
Profile Joined December 2011
United States501 Posts
June 01 2012 17:41 GMT
#235
On June 02 2012 00:40 Sankanyo wrote:
Sick groups!!~
But wait, did Stephano deny his code s spot again?


He'll arrive in Korea in August, likely to compete in Season 4 Code S.
"I'm always going to survive. Only reason I can't survive is if I'm dead or something." --Mike Tyson
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
June 01 2012 17:41 GMT
#236
On June 02 2012 02:38 GunPaladin wrote:
I don't understand why people are voting for group F when Parting and MKP are obvious favorites.


Because they're really not. If anyone in that group is a favorite, it's Symbol.

MKP has been beaten by everyone in that group recently, and Parting while not bad at PvZ isn't anything exceptional either.
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
June 01 2012 17:42 GMT
#237
On June 02 2012 02:41 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2012 02:38 GunPaladin wrote:
I don't understand why people are voting for group F when Parting and MKP are obvious favorites.


Because they're really not. If anyone in that group is a favorite, it's Symbol.

MKP has been beaten by everyone in that group recently, and Parting while not bad at PvZ isn't anything exceptional either.


If Parting plays like he did against Stephano at Red Bull he's going to get destroyed
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
June 01 2012 17:43 GMT
#238
On June 02 2012 02:38 GunPaladin wrote:
I don't understand why people are voting for group F when Parting and MKP are obvious favorites.


This is so not true.

PartinG's vs Z is mediocre, and could very well 0-2ed by Symbol and YugiOh. In fact, MKP might be the opponent PartinG who has best chance against.
MKP lost to Symbol in Iron Squid and to YugiOh in code A R24.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
JtoK
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany232 Posts
June 01 2012 17:43 GMT
#239
LOL, Seriously MKP and Parting in one group again? It's getting annyoing how often they meet >.<
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
June 01 2012 17:43 GMT
#240
On June 02 2012 02:38 GunPaladin wrote:
I don't understand why people are voting for group F when Parting and MKP are obvious favorites.


MKP has lost to every single person in that group recently. Parting isnt as good at PvZ as he is at PvT and Symbol and Yugioh have looked really really good lately.
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