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Malpractice.248
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States734 Posts
June 10 2012 06:29 GMT
#461
On June 10 2012 15:19 chadissilent wrote:
Soulkey's fatal error that game was the decision to go ultralisks

Fixed it for you
Exia0276
Profile Joined January 2012
Hong Kong62 Posts
June 10 2012 06:33 GMT
#462
17 medivacs
Random_Guy09
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1010 Posts
June 10 2012 06:33 GMT
#463
On June 10 2012 15:28 larse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 15:23 Random_Guy09 wrote:
On June 10 2012 15:16 moochu wrote:
You know what i think it is? They seem to be really good with reinforcing, so whilst the engagements aren't giant deathballs the fights go for longer because units keep joining in.


Looks like the BW pro's are alot more agressive with their units. It never looks like "OMG turtle till 200/200 then we'll just micro around to get a better engage and then games over". Always lots of good small engagements that are making it entertaining. Only time it looks like turtling is when they're defending because the opponent has a small group of units standing on their door step. Don't think there has been an actual 200/200 "Deathball" fight yet from what I've seen (no access to the premium streams). They're all honestly playing "Thorzain" style of play just chipping away at each other when they think they have an advantage and arent overcommiting to attacks. Pretty good to watch


Because you can afford to do some small engagements in BW. Even if you lost all the small engagements, comeback is still highly probable. But in SC2 if you lost all the small engagement and are low on supply and then hit by a forceful counterattack, comeback is much less likely so players tend to turtle more.


The way they're playing is making it much more entertaining as they're not waiting for it to get to deathball vs deathball. Always good to see they're not falling into how we normally see it played everyday. Refreshing to see it being different
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
June 10 2012 06:36 GMT
#464
lols flash is ridiclous.
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superstartran
Profile Joined March 2010
United States4013 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-10 06:37:15
June 10 2012 06:37 GMT
#465
On June 10 2012 15:36 haduken wrote:
lols flash is ridiclous.



He just made Stork and Soulkey look like scrubs. Granted both Stork and Soulkey made some mistakes, but that's gonna happen when they are so new. But god damn Flash looks like a new player since losing to Effort.
Malpractice.248
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States734 Posts
June 10 2012 06:37 GMT
#466
flash quite good... great decision mashing and micro
ExceeD_DreaM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada500 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-10 06:38:14
June 10 2012 06:37 GMT
#467
How is the level of Flash right now from these games???
I can't really seem to grasp how good he is in SC2, but those games vs Soulkey were very entertaining!

Oh, and I see that JD and soulkey has an extra queen just for creeping, do top zerg SC2 gamers like Stephano do that too?
CaptainCharisma
Profile Joined February 2011
New Zealand808 Posts
June 10 2012 06:37 GMT
#468
That was interesting. I think Soulkey could have devastated Flash a couple of times, but seemed tentative, moving in but pulling back after taking a few tank hits. Did anyone else spot this?
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.gypsy
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada689 Posts
June 10 2012 06:37 GMT
#469
flash is pretty fucking good wtf
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n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
June 10 2012 06:38 GMT
#470
Isn't Soulkey GM in korea?
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superstartran
Profile Joined March 2010
United States4013 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-10 06:39:23
June 10 2012 06:38 GMT
#471
On June 10 2012 15:37 CaptainCharisma wrote:
That was interesting. I think Soulkey could have devastated Flash a couple of times, but seemed tentative, moving in but pulling back after taking a few tank hits. Did anyone else spot this?



Walking into 6+ Siege Tanks not good idea with Muta/Bling.



On June 10 2012 15:37 CaptainCharisma wrote:
That was interesting. I think Soulkey could have devastated Flash a couple of times, but seemed tentative, moving in but pulling back after taking a few tank hits. Did anyone else spot this?




He's not MVP level yet but he would definitely smash alot of midtier pros at the moment purely on mechanics. His TvP against Stork was abit gimmiky at times, but his TvZ vs Soulkey particularly g2 was pretty nuts. Most pro gamers would not attack against a huge Muta/Bling/Infestor army in the field like that but Flash did and took minimal casualties the entire time.
Rockmonsterdude
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden169 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-10 06:38:34
June 10 2012 06:38 GMT
#472
Flash... is... so... GOOOOOD
Regina
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands148 Posts
June 10 2012 06:39 GMT
#473
Eventho i liked the engagements flash did, i think he isnt using the little timing pushes a terran can make efficiently. if you go 2 fast ebays you either have to exploit the fast +1/1 or +2/2, considering he goes 3 cc a nice 2/2 timing would be good imo.
Splynn
Profile Joined September 2011
United States225 Posts
June 10 2012 06:39 GMT
#474
Oh man oh man. Jaedong vs Bisu. Bisu has seemed to have Jaedong's number in BW for the past year or so, I wonder how these two hammer it out in SC2...

Also, if we do end up seeing a Jaedong vs Flash finals, I fully expect both of them to play harder than we've seen any of the BW pros do so far. Winning is one thing, but winning over each other should provide a whole new level of motivation for them.
OceanLab
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France505 Posts
June 10 2012 06:39 GMT
#475
Flash vs Jaedong or Bisu in the finals...DAYUM!
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larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
June 10 2012 06:39 GMT
#476
On June 10 2012 15:37 Malpractice.248 wrote:
flash quite good... great decision mashing and micro


I think one of the most important reason why flash won is that Soulkey moves his full army into the siege line and pulls back, and then he moves into the siege line and pulls back again. In this process, Soulkey did 0 damage but lost about 30 supply.
YMCApylons
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Taiwan359 Posts
June 10 2012 06:39 GMT
#477
Flash looks pretty good, but I think Soulkey just fell victim to thinking his lings were as good as BW lings.

Flash also sieges and unsieges his tanks very often, and when the enemy is quite close - I don't think he fully realizes how fast SC2 units are relative to the siege animation.
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Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7291 Posts
June 10 2012 06:39 GMT
#478
Macro and multitask looks pretty good. Micro isnt there yet. You can see the potential though.
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28093 Posts
June 10 2012 06:40 GMT
#479
omg a girl in the audience with a hwaesung oz jacket
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superstartran
Profile Joined March 2010
United States4013 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-10 06:41:54
June 10 2012 06:40 GMT
#480
On June 10 2012 15:39 Sadist wrote:
Macro and multitask looks pretty good. Micro isnt there yet. You can see the potential though.


His micro in relation to TvP wasn't too great, but his TvZ was pretty good for the most part.


On June 10 2012 15:39 Regina wrote:
Eventho i liked the engagements flash did, i think he isnt using the little timing pushes a terran can make efficiently. if you go 2 fast ebays you either have to exploit the fast +1/1 or +2/2, considering he goes 3 cc a nice 2/2 timing would be good imo.



He went fast 3-3 which allowed him to utterly smash the Ultras in the middle of the map on Antiga; Soulkey made a huge mistake of not waiting for the armor upgrade to kick in and lost all of his gas he invested way too fast.
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