• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 08:40
CET 14:40
KST 22:40
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Dark completes military service, returns to SC211[BSL23] RO16 Group Stage19Weekly Cups (Nov 2-8): herO back on top?2Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win0Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175
StarCraft 2
General
Dark completes military service, returns to SC2 Greetings.. No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? Serral's getting trashed by New Catsle's Mind Weekly Cups (Nov 2-8): herO back on top?
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) Dark returns! GSL CK #7 4v4 Team Battle (Nov 19) soO & FanTaSy return! SC2 Kevin Scrim 4v4 (Nov 16) RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps Starcraft 2 Advance [D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 551 Robotic Revival Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles
Brood War
General
List of top players active on ShieldBattery BW General Discussion Korean players' earnings Hit New All-Time High! SOOP Hosts SC1 & SC2 Event Tournament: Kevin Scrim BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League [BSL23] Ro16 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Bisu's Team vs Shuttle's Team 2026-11-14
Strategy
Pluto's TvP 5Marine 2Medic Push Simple Questions, Simple Answers Infested Terran strategies in 2026 Nuke strategy worked in K-League 2026-11-09
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Free Space RTS Game, optimised f. Phone/Tablet etc List of Game Threads The PlayStation 5
Dota 2
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Artificial Intelligence Thread Trading/Investing Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The time I organised my…
AssyrianKing
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9413 users

MLG Anaheim KeSPA Invitational Bracket - Page 34

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 32 33 34 All
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
June 11 2012 02:56 GMT
#661
On June 11 2012 11:19 iky43210 wrote:
oh broodwar elitists fans, why won't you ever go away?

if sc2 is full of gimmic, imbalance game, then we wouldn't have such a diverse racial balance at the top level (which shifts depends on meta changes) and we wouldn't have such consistent players on winning tourneys


Are there really that many of us BW "elitists" making these sorts of claims? Or are you you seeing one or two and then generalizing to the entire group.

Pretty much all I see in the last 4 or 5 pages is discussion of the games, how the KeSPA players stack up vs themselves and how they might compare to the current SC2 pros, and some discussion about IdrA's skill level at the end of his BW days. I'm not sure I saw A post calling SC2 imbalanced or gimmicky.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-11 03:44:20
June 11 2012 03:43 GMT
#662
On June 11 2012 11:56 L_Master wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 11:19 iky43210 wrote:
oh broodwar elitists fans, why won't you ever go away?

if sc2 is full of gimmic, imbalance game, then we wouldn't have such a diverse racial balance at the top level (which shifts depends on meta changes) and we wouldn't have such consistent players on winning tourneys


Are there really that many of us BW "elitists" making these sorts of claims? Or are you you seeing one or two and then generalizing to the entire group.

Pretty much all I see in the last 4 or 5 pages is discussion of the games, how the KeSPA players stack up vs themselves and how they might compare to the current SC2 pros, and some discussion about IdrA's skill level at the end of his BW days. I'm not sure I saw A post calling SC2 imbalanced or gimmicky.


I didn't generalize the entire broodwar fans as elitists, im talking specifically toward those elitists

I didn't quote, but I saw at least 2-3 posts saying something like "Sc2 is not broken, it's not balanced. Happy now?". If that's not being elitists I don't know what is
Dranak
Profile Joined July 2011
United States464 Posts
June 11 2012 14:13 GMT
#663
On June 11 2012 08:18 Louuster wrote:
Damn I missed this and it looks like ill have to buy a premium pass just to watch those vods.. worth it? I wouldnt want to miss a Bisu game, even in SC2 I guess


VODs are generally free about a week after the event, or turn up on youtube in a few days.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
June 11 2012 14:18 GMT
#664
On June 11 2012 11:52 rysecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 11:45 XXhkXX wrote:
BW pros may not instantly become better than GSL players, but they are better showmen thats for sure... that presentation was some good entertainment especially Leta's backflip lol


Yea, you hear a lot of people saying bw pros don't show emotion and they're just mechanical robots who win everything. That's part true, but they have a fun side to them also.


Thanks to the way media works in the west, a lot of people equate "having a personality" to "being a dick". You can be as interesting/outgoing/funny as much as you want, but unless you're occasionally a dick, you're boring.

BW progamers definitely have interesting personalities that show quite often, but they're almost universally nice. I bet a ton of people think White-Ra and Sheth are boring as well.
Diizzy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States828 Posts
June 11 2012 14:23 GMT
#665
wth... im surprise they never used flash as an ace in spl. sometimes they didnt even pick him to play. haha he mustve just wanted to hide his skill? im kinda confuse. he came in the invitational by storm. did not expect him to play so well.
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-11 18:31:38
June 11 2012 18:31 GMT
#666
On June 11 2012 23:23 Diizzy wrote:
wth... im surprise they never used flash as an ace in spl. sometimes they didnt even pick him to play. haha he mustve just wanted to hide his skill? im kinda confuse. he came in the invitational by storm. did not expect him to play so well.


They've always picked Flash to play and his 1-1 just not in ACE matches . There have been like 2 ACE matches as well so no big deal .
Prev 1 32 33 34 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Invitational
20:00
WardiTV Not-Summer Championshi
MaxPax vs SHINLIVE!
ByuN vs TBD
herO vs TBD
Clem vs TBD
WardiTV954
ComeBackTV 782
IntoTheiNu 739
TaKeTV 356
Rex122
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ByuN 439
Rex 122
ProTech26
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 6990
Rain 1835
Shuttle 1442
Mini 637
BeSt 610
Light 560
Soulkey 378
firebathero 268
Hyuk 254
hero 233
[ Show more ]
ZerO 183
ggaemo 170
Snow 162
Larva 157
Barracks 131
Mind 114
Zeus 111
Last 107
Pusan 97
actioN 95
Killer 68
Mong 54
Hyun 49
Sea.KH 47
Yoon 39
ToSsGirL 35
PianO 33
Free 29
sorry 24
JYJ 22
Aegong 21
Sacsri 16
Hm[arnc] 16
scan(afreeca) 14
Sharp 14
HiyA 13
yabsab 13
Rock 12
soO 12
zelot 9
Icarus 6
Dota 2
Gorgc6979
XcaliburYe260
monkeys_forever216
Counter-Strike
x6flipin429
jkaem105
Other Games
FrodaN3720
singsing2262
B2W.Neo620
XaKoH 166
KnowMe144
Fuzer 117
ZerO(Twitch)18
syndereN17
CosmosSc2 14
fpsfer 2
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 17
[ Show 9 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• ChaeLyn 4
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Upcoming Events
IPSL
3h 20m
Art_Of_Turtle vs KameZerg
Radley vs George
BSL
6h 20m
Artosis vs Dewalt
Ret vs Tech
SOOP
20h 20m
soO vs FanTaSy
WardiTV Weekly
22h 20m
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
GSL
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
KCM Race Survival
4 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
5 days
BSL
6 days
eOnzErG vs StRyKeR
Cross vs JDConan
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-14
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
Calamity Cup Div. A Season 8
Underdog Cup 2026 Div 2-3
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026

Upcoming

YSL S4
Sector 591
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
StarCraft2 Weekly Open Tournament 2026 Grand Finals
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
IEM Kraków 2027
PGL Bucharest 2027
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.