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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody. Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence. | ||
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-Dustin-
United States718 Posts
No one cares about the Hydra den being canceled but you because you are trying to derail the subject. COMPLETELY forget all that the Zerg done that game and look at what you did. You are trying to argue about something you've already lost. Also I want to add your argument about the mutas really made no sense at all. None what-so-ever. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
Weak evidence for hacks (i.e. not enough evidence by themselves):
Even if more evidence is found, this current behavior is unbecoming. | ||
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Egomancer
Romania119 Posts
On August 17 2013 10:31 AcieDeucie wrote: I'll explain it again so even you can understand it: My plan was to go for mutas hence the melee upgrades. Since I wasn't 100% sure though what you were planning, I built a hydralisk den in case you were going for a fast 3base all-in. Halfway through I realised that the chances of you doing a fast all-in are almost 0 since you wouldn't build a robo just to make an obs or a single immo -> so I had quite a bit of time before you would attack. Also: I only saw 2 additional gates at your third so you only had 6 gates so I expected you to tech to colossi since thats the normal followup. I also sent an overseer into your base after that to make sure. And as we know I was right in the regard that you were teching and not all-ining. (Although you went double stargate in addition to the robo). As iAmJeffReY perfectly said: because I hack and I saw that you put robobay Just to clarify the answers for anyone. | ||
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-Dustin-
United States718 Posts
On August 17 2013 10:35 Danglars wrote: Stop the damn witch-hunting arguments going in circles and circles and post 3 replays in one post where there is incredibly suspicious tech changes and defense coincidences. This kind of speculation on a single replay reflects badly on all those engaged. Point out what's suspicious, post the replay, ask for more replays and analysis, and leave it at that. You can actively search online for more replays but stay out of the pointless bickering until you have hard evidence. Even if more evidence is found, this current behavior is unbecoming. Have you even read the post about what he did in the replay? I find it more than convincing. + Show Spoiler + I want to start off by saying 20 minutes in he hasn't even left his bases. No observers no scouts nothing. 9:35 Zerg starts Hydra Den 9:40 he starts Robo Bay. Zerg starts spire 20 seconds later 2 Stargates 12:20: Mutas popped he builds an extra pylon and 3 cannons in his mineral line and chronos phoenix's out with no scout of anything. 12:58: Mutas move in to his expansions mineral lines (cannons finishing) BEFORE the Mutas are in vision he moves his camera into the FoW behind the mineral line (Right on the Mutas) 16:48 Zerg army about to run into his third he used Nexus Overcharge without seeing the Zergs army. 17:42 Zerglings going to run into expansion immediately warps in 5 Zealots into his choke. Again could not see the Lings. 19:05 Mutas flying into expansion again looks at them in FoW and then sends his Phoenix's there. No vision. 21:00 Sends DT's to unscouted base. 21:40 Army is clearing creep Zerglings go for run by on his 4th looks at ramp and pulls army back before their in vision. 27:35 Zerg leaves Swarmhosts unattended attacks directly on top of them without scouting where exactly they were (knew the general area but had not seen locusts pop or the Hosts) 29:40 Has army clearing 4th of a Hydralisk Zerg positions his army between expansion and 3rd he moves his army to the ramp above them and starts warping in Zealots there. If thats not enough evidence I don't know what is honestly. | ||
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Egomancer
Romania119 Posts
On August 17 2013 10:32 -Dustin- wrote: I'm not answering it because it has nothing to do with what is at hand. The fact that you maphack and sit here and lie about it to multiple people even tho 3-4 people have watched the replay and said its obvious you hack. No one cares about the Hydra den being canceled but you because you are trying to derail the subject. COMPLETELY forget all that the Zerg done that game and look at what you did. You are trying to argue about something you've already lost. Also I want to add your argument about the mutas really made no sense at all. None what-so-ever. Ok, so you say that you do not care if AcieDeuce maphacks, you only care that I maphack, right? So you have something personal against me? | ||
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iAmJeffReY
United States4262 Posts
On August 17 2013 10:39 Egomancer wrote: Ok, so you say that you do not care if AcieDeuce maphacks, you only care that I maphack, right? So you have something personal against me? Well the fact is you maphack, and your only defense is saying he map hacks when his explanation fits his thought procoess and the game transition. There's a LIST of shit you did, with no vision lol. No amount of game sense explains your actions in the game. You hack. You're a cheater. | ||
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heaveshade
China330 Posts
On August 17 2013 10:25 Egomancer wrote: You are wrong, I could have made cannons at the 4th...there was no need for an obsever... Prove that I made the obs to kill that zergling...you are just speculating... And you still kill the zergling with the observer, not with the detection of cannon. Besides, you are comfortable with no scouting no observer for 17 mins. Why there is suddenly a need when a burrow zergling is blocking your 4th which you don't know? | ||
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Egomancer
Romania119 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/C7TjZka.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/NwRXkjj.png) I guess I am not allowed to check my cannons because I am maphacking, right? | ||
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oOOoOphidian
United States1402 Posts
On August 17 2013 10:48 Egomancer wrote: Screenshot with camera at minute 12.58 where I am supposed to look at mutas in fog of war. Note that it is centered on the cannons that just finish not on the mutas - in case you wonder why I look there. Second screenshot is with the mutas in the FoW but I was looking at my cannons that just finished, you can see in the screenshot. I guess I am not allowed to check my cannons because I am maphacking, right? First time I see someone so adamantly post proof against themselves. | ||
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iAmJeffReY
United States4262 Posts
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Egomancer
Romania119 Posts
Camera at min 19.05 when I click to move my entire army on the seconday after I cleaned the 4th. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/8cY63QB.png) Now camera with vision for everyone: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Q8Udgda.png) There are no mutas in the camera, camera in centered on the back of my base. I do not peek in the FoW. The funny thing is that the zerg attackes there without any scout and it can be like 15 phoenix there which means insta death for the mutas, but now we are not looking at what the zerg does, we are looking what I do. So please show me where I peek in the FoW and see the zerg... | ||
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iAmJeffReY
United States4262 Posts
On August 17 2013 10:55 Egomancer wrote: Second post: There are no mutas in the camera, camera in centered on the back of my base. I do not peek in the FoW. The funny thing is that the zerg attackes there without any scout and it can be like 15 phoenix there which means insta death for the mutas, but now we are not looking at what the zerg does, we are looking what I do. So please show me where I peek in the FoW and see the zerg... ..lol yes you can see the mutas in that camera shot, retard. Funniest part you show your whole army being a moved to that spot at your natural before the mutas come in lol | ||
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Egomancer
Romania119 Posts
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Egomancer
Romania119 Posts
Maybe you can see the point where I click with the mouse in the first screenshot? Or you just ignore that because it does not fit into your scenario. I just clicked there and the camera went there. Mutas are on the next screen... Also calling me retard should call for a ban, I never insulted you even if you deny reality... I guess when you finish the rational arguments you start calling names. I provide screenshots where I prove that I do not peek in the FoW and that I click on the back of my base. Please provide some screenshots that I peek in FoW... | ||
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iAmJeffReY
United States4262 Posts
On August 17 2013 10:58 Egomancer wrote: iAmJeffReY - really ? You mean that muta wing? Maybe you can see the point where I click with the mouse in the first screenshot? Or you just ignore that because it does not fit into your scenario. I just clicked there and the camera went there. Mutas are on the next screen... Uhm its a maphack... lol you can see them coming on your minimap. And if you have that one type of maphack, you can have vision of what the enemy is looking at in YOUR Mini map...so you probably saw him looking to attack your natural and amove your entire army there Watched enough streaming maphackers to know your tricks buddy | ||
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Egomancer
Romania119 Posts
Once more, please show screenshots with me peeking in FoW where his army is. You accuse me in 2 cases, now it is time to bring on the evidence for both of them, or any of them... | ||
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iAmJeffReY
United States4262 Posts
On August 17 2013 11:04 Egomancer wrote: @iAmJeffReY - you avoid the main point which is that you claim that I peek in FoW. You also claim it is a maphack without evidence. Once more, please show screenshots with me peeking in FoW where his army is. You accuse me, now it is time to bring on the evidence... On August 17 2013 10:48 Egomancer wrote: Screenshot with camera at minute 12.58 where I am supposed to look at mutas in fog of war. Note that it is centered on the cannons that just finish not on the mutas - in case you wonder why I look there. Second screenshot is with the mutas in the FoW but I was looking at my cannons that just finished, you can see in the screenshot. I guess I am not allowed to check my cannons because I am maphacking, right? That's the proof, buddy lol. If it was centered on cannons, it would be more to the right, not right there. That's not "checking on cannons" That's looking at mutas in fog of war lol You posted your own proof that you hack. On August 17 2013 10:54 oOOoOphidian wrote: First time I see someone so adamantly post proof against themselves. | ||
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Egomancer
Romania119 Posts
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iAmJeffReY
United States4262 Posts
On August 17 2013 11:11 Egomancer wrote: The screen is centered on the cannon that is finishing not on the mutas. Look that the mutas are on the left. If I would have had MH I would have been centered on the mutas, but I am not. So the screenshot actually proves my point, not yours... No one said the screen was centered on the mutas. I said it's NOT centered on the cannon. If it were, it would be to the right more. I'm off. Can't wait to see more troll baiting of this hacker to continue to post more proof of himself hacking. | ||
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Egomancer
Romania119 Posts
And about min 19.05? | ||
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