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Egomancer
Romania119 Posts
A high master puts down 2 evolution chambers + hydralisk den. I put down robo bay. 10 seconds later he cancels the hydralisk den and puts multalisk den without scouting the robo bay. ROFL... this is priceless... no maphacking involved, just good game sense... What can I say, you are my new hero, I just want to learn to play like you... | ||
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iAmJeffReY
United States4262 Posts
On August 17 2013 09:55 Egomancer wrote: I mean this thread gets more and more hilarious.... A high master puts down 2 evolution chambers + hydralisk den. I put down robo bay. 10 seconds later he cancels the hydralisk den and puts multalisk den without scouting the robo bay. ROFL... this is priceless... no maphacking involved, just good game sense... What can I say, you are my new hero, I just want to learn to play like you... What about your cannons at nexus to defend unseen mutas. Or your fow look at mutas? Or nexus cannoning a base before you saw an army. Any time you want to stop dodging and answer. | ||
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heaveshade
China330 Posts
Because you just know there is a burrow ling?? | ||
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Egomancer
Romania119 Posts
On August 17 2013 09:55 AcieDeucie wrote: I'll explain it again so even you can understand it: My plan was to go for mutas hence the melee upgrades. Since I wasn't 100% sure though what you were planning, I built a hydralisk den in case you were going for a fast 3base all-in. Halfway through I realised that the chances of you doing a fast all-in are almost 0 since you wouldn't build a robo just to make an obs or a single immo -> so I had quite a bit of time before you would attack. Also: I only saw 2 additional gates at your third so you only had 6 gates so I expected you to tech to colossi since thats the normal followup. I also sent an overseer into your base after that to make sure. And as we know I was right in the regard that you were teching and not all-ining. (Although you went double stargate in addition to the robo). Man, tomorrow morning I will give the same type of explanations to all your points and I am sure that after that you will see that I am not maphacking, I just made a build that is unorthodox... At least I can say that I put down the stargates because I see no hydras or roaches but that cancel of the hydralisk den without additional info is... interesting... | ||
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Egomancer
Romania119 Posts
On August 17 2013 09:57 heaveshade wrote: Can you explain why you make your first observer @17:30ish against AcieDeucie, on Whirlwind? Because you just know there is a burrow ling?? I make the first observer at minute 17.30 because my build says that I am not allowed to make any observers until that minute because I do not need them. More questions? I will gladly answer them... | ||
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iAmJeffReY
United States4262 Posts
On August 17 2013 09:59 Egomancer wrote: Man, tomorrow morning I will give the same type of explanations to all your points and I am sure that after that you will see that I am not maphacking, I just made a build that is unorthodox... At least I can say that I put down the stargates because I see no hydras or roaches but that cancel of the hydralisk den without additional info is... interesting... Ya it is. Like making cannons at your nexus without scouting mutas. Or looking at units you didn't see through the fog of war. Or wasting 100 energy on a nexus cannon, randomly, for no reason. All interesting. On August 17 2013 10:00 Egomancer wrote: I make the first observer at minute 17.30 because my build says that I am not allowed to make any observers until that minute because I do not need them. More questions? I will gladly answer them... LOL okay. Hacker needs to get banned now. | ||
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heaveshade
China330 Posts
On August 17 2013 10:00 Egomancer wrote: I make the first observer at minute 17.30 because my build says that I am not allowed to make any observers until that minute because I do not need them. More questions? I will gladly answer them... Yes, but the same question. | ||
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Egomancer
Romania119 Posts
On August 17 2013 10:01 iAmJeffReY wrote: Ya it is. Like making cannons at your nexus without scouting mutas. Or looking at units you didn't see through the fog of war. Or wasting 100 energy on a nexus cannon, randomly, for no reason. All interesting. LOL okay. Hacker needs to get banned now. Man, that game I played the build with 3 cannons at the secondary, what don't you understand? It is a common build, you can see it in like half of the PvZs, right? Like the 2 evo into canceled hydra den into muta - that build is the other half of the games... Can you please point me where I am looking at units through FoW? Note: a few posts back some people argued that looking into FoW is NOT maphacking.... And that 100 energy on that nexus? Do I really need to explain it? I did it because it felt good... More questions? Bring them on... | ||
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iAmJeffReY
United States4262 Posts
On August 17 2013 10:06 Egomancer wrote: Man, that game I played the build with 3 cannons at the secondary, what don't you understand? It is a common build, you can see it in like half of the PvZs, right? Like the 2 evo into canceled hydra den into muta - that build is the other half of the games... Can you please point me where I am looking at units through FoW? Note: a few posts back some people argued that looking into FoW is NOT maphacking.... And that 100 energy on that nexus? Do I really need to explain it? I did it because it felt good... More questions? Bring them on... You can't answer questions without trying to redirect. Your answers are: I have no reason for making those cannons, because I hack and saw mutas. Then I looked in fog, and I'm a hacker so I saw mutas. And finally I saw an army coming in, because I hack, and put on nexus cannon because I hack. Just to clarify the answers for anyone. Also note how you have yet to say your stream link. Your stream name. Why you can't stream the games you've been playing that you randomly started losing like.... 80% of them, after being accused of hacking. So, why don't you stream, and beat some of these players. Post your stream link so we can watch you suck ass without your hacks. | ||
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heaveshade
China330 Posts
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Egomancer
Romania119 Posts
On August 17 2013 10:08 iAmJeffReY wrote: You can't answer questions without trying to redirect. Your answers are: I have no reason for making those cannons, because I hack and saw mutas. Then I looked in fog, and I'm a hacker so I saw mutas. And finally I saw an army coming in, because I hack, and put on nexus cannon because I hack. Just to clarify the answers for anyone. OK, You keep asking me all kind of stuff but you never ask the other guy why he canceled the hydra den? I mean "because I hack and I saw that you put robobay" could be a valid answer? Just to clarify AcieDeuce's answer for anyone... The real answer to your question is that I knew that mutas are coming because the first 9 minutes of the game I saw only a limited number of zerglings and I prepared for it. Preparing means to make phoenixes, cannons in all your bases, or if you do not have enough money, cannons at the most exposed bases (like the secondary) and to get blink... Does this answer satisfy you? I have been accused of hacking since 4th of August and I lost the games only today because I was too pissed off to properly play because of all these people accusing me of maphacking. ON this thread there are 3 (three) replays and you keep refering only to one of them - please check the other 2 maybe you will find there the definitivie proof that I maphack... | ||
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-Dustin-
United States718 Posts
On August 17 2013 10:13 Egomancer wrote: OK, You keep asking me all kind of stuff but you never ask the other guy why he canceled the hydra den? I mean "because I hack and I saw that you put robobay" could be a valid answer? Just to clarify AcieDeuce's answer for anyone... The real answer to your question is that I knew that mutas are coming because the first 9 minutes of the game I saw only a limited number of zerglings and I prepared for it. Preparing means to make phoenixes, cannons in all your bases, or if you do not have enough money, cannons at the most exposed bases (like the secondary) and to get blink... Does this answer satisfy you? This is where your argument is flawed. You hadn't scouted where he spawned if he had spawned at the top base then your main and 3rd would be most exposed but just so happen he spawned at the bottom which made your expo the most exposed and where you put your cannons. Explain that for me. Unless you are psychic or some shit you are in fact a maphacker and if you weren't you would've had to put cannons at EVERY base not just one. | ||
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heaveshade
China330 Posts
Is this enough? | ||
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Egomancer
Romania119 Posts
On August 17 2013 10:18 -Dustin- wrote: This is where your argument is flawed. You hadn't scouted where he spawned if he had spawned at the top base then your main and 3rd would be most exposed but just so happen he spawned at the bottom which made your expo the most exposed and where you put your cannons. Explain that for me. Unless you are psychic or some shit you are in fact a maphacker and if you weren't you would've had to put cannons at EVERY base not just one. I put cannons down at minute 12 or something, you claim that at minute 12 I do not know where he spawned? I do not understand... I put the cannons at the most exposed base which based on our spawn position is my secondary - this is obvious. I do not get your point, really... But once more, how do you explain the canceled hydra den 10 seconds after I put the robo bay down. I know that I am deflecting the questions yada yada yada, but please indulge me and answer this particular one: why did he cancel the hydra den 10 seconds after I started to build a robo bay that he does not scout? | ||
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Egomancer
Romania119 Posts
On August 17 2013 10:20 heaveshade wrote: You made the observer because there is a burrow zergling at your 4th. And you knew it without planting down the nexus on it, and you didn't even try, just build the observer. Is this enough? You are wrong, I could have made cannons at the 4th...there was no need for an obsever... Prove that I made the obs to kill that zergling...you are just speculating... | ||
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-Dustin-
United States718 Posts
On August 17 2013 10:23 Egomancer wrote: I put cannons down at minute 12 or something, you claim that at minute 12 I do not know where he spawned? I do not understand... I put the cannons at the most exposed base which based on our spawn position is my secondary - this is obvious. I do not get your point, really... But once more, how do you explain the canceled hydra den 10 seconds after I put the robo bay down. I know that I am deflecting the questions yada yada yada, but please indulge me and answer this particular one: why did he cancel the hydra den 10 seconds after I started to build a robo bay that he does not scout? You don't 30 minutes in you don't know where he spawned you have only pushed out to the tower you just lost your argument bro. No idea where the mutas are coming from but cannons at the right spot, plus you look at them twice in FoW. Just give up seriously. | ||
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Wormi
Germany181 Posts
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iAmJeffReY
United States4262 Posts
On August 17 2013 10:25 -Dustin- wrote: You don't 30 minutes in you don't know where he spawned you have only pushed out to the tower you just lost your argument bro. No idea where the mutas are coming from but cannons at the right spot, plus you look at them twice in FoW. Just give up seriously. And again can only say why did he cancel the hydra den. When he didn't scout a spawn, and prepared defenses for unseen units from an unseen spawn... lol This may be the best hacker defending himself ever. | ||
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Egomancer
Romania119 Posts
On August 17 2013 10:25 -Dustin- wrote: You don't 30 minutes in you don't know where he spawned you have only pushed out to the tower you just lost your argument bro. No idea where the mutas are coming from but cannons at the right spot, plus you look at them twice in FoW. Just give up seriously. Wrong, the main is half protected by the 3rd, I should generally see when the mutas come so the most exposed is the second. Can you please answer my question about the hydra den? You keep avoiding that.... What is funny is that the zerg does all kind of stuff but it does not look suspect to anyone and I really wonder why? Is it normal to go a certain tech path and halfway through it to change it without any scouting? If you say nothing about that I assume it is. Is it normal to attack 90% of the time the location where the army of the opponent isn't? Is it normal to start an attack but to stop it just in front of the base because in the FoW the army of the opponent just camped ? Yes it is....and I am a maphacker... | ||
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AcieDeucie
Luxembourg16 Posts
On August 17 2013 09:55 AcieDeucie wrote: I'll explain it again so even you can understand it: My plan was to go for mutas hence the melee upgrades. Since I wasn't 100% sure though what you were planning, I built a hydralisk den in case you were going for a fast 3base all-in. Halfway through I realised that the chances of you doing a fast all-in are almost 0 since you wouldn't build a robo just to make an obs or a single immo -> so I had quite a bit of time before you would attack. Also: I only saw 2 additional gates at your third so you only had 6 gates so I expected you to tech to colossi since thats the normal followup. I also sent an overseer into your base after that to make sure. And as we know I was right in the regard that you were teching and not all-ining. (Although you went double stargate in addition to the robo). | ||
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