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No, having the mutas out before there is a large number of phoenix gives me still good chances. Adding corrupters is very common and I could have possibly denied the phoenix production. But I explained it a few posts ago. You just keep diverting the attention from yourself since it is obvious that you hack.
but if I would have macroed a little better or if I would have figured out that you are going mutas earlier I would have made like 6 phoenixes and at that point you would have lost the game
Considering how late the stargates were there was no chance for you to have 6 phoenix out at the moment where my mutas arrived.
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On August 17 2013 08:29 Egomancer wrote:
What I want to say is that on that replay it is not obvious that you maphack and I have no clear evidence that you maphacked. There is another replay of a game I played against a terran where the guy is a clear maphacker, I mean it is hard to maphack more obvious than that guy. Your game does not come even close to that terran but there are some weird decisions that you do during the game - like the 17.30 min attack with all you got because you saw 6 dots on the minimap. Plus that you make a build that hardcounters mine with minimal scouting...
No there is nothing suspicious in my play. Just stop replying you clearly don't have any knowledge about the game and still pretend things that are plain wrong or were already explained(like the attack at 17m).
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On August 17 2013 08:32 AcieDeucie wrote:Show nested quote +
but if I would have macroed a little better or if I would have figured out that you are going mutas earlier I would have made like 6 phoenixes and at that point you would have lost the game
Considering how late the stargates were there was no chance for you to have 6 phoenix out at the moment where my mutas arrived.
True ...but if I was maphacking maybe I would have put the stargates earlier? Or I am maphacking when it fits your scenario and when it does not - I do not counter you because I am stupid... I put the stargates late because only at that moment I figured what build you are doing.
More than that, I never see those ultras coming until it is too late, so when was my maphack when you put your ultralisk den ?
Sad truth is that the game was lost when those mutas came and I did not have anything to counter them, I should have left the game then....
I do not accept the explanation abut the attack at minute 17 - you see only the dots on the minimap and you do not see the bulk of the army - consequently you have no idea where my army is. Please post a screenshot that you see my army in your vision from minute 16.30 to 17.30 and I will admit that I am wrong...
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On August 17 2013 08:32 AcieDeucie wrote:No, having the mutas out before there is a large number of phoenix gives me still good chances. Adding corrupters is very common and I could have possibly denied the phoenix production. But I explained it a few posts ago. You just keep diverting the attention from yourself since it is obvious that you hack. Show nested quote +
but if I would have macroed a little better or if I would have figured out that you are going mutas earlier I would have made like 6 phoenixes and at that point you would have lost the game
Considering how late the stargates were there was no chance for you to have 6 phoenix out at the moment where my mutas arrived. Edit: Show nested quote +On August 17 2013 08:29 Egomancer wrote:
What I want to say is that on that replay it is not obvious that you maphack and I have no clear evidence that you maphacked. There is another replay of a game I played against a terran where the guy is a clear maphacker, I mean it is hard to maphack more obvious than that guy. Your game does not come even close to that terran but there are some weird decisions that you do during the game - like the 17.30 min attack with all you got because you saw 6 dots on the minimap. Plus that you make a build that hardcounters mine with minimal scouting... No there is nothing suspicious in my play. Just stop replying you clearly don't have any knowledge about the game and still pretend things that are plain wrong or were already explained(like the attack at 17m).
Yeah talking to this guy is like talking with a brick wall. He is 100% maphacking proof is in the replays. He is just trying to divert the attention from him to someone else which is what hes done with both replays posted its always "the other guy is maphacking not me".
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On August 17 2013 08:37 -Dustin- wrote:
Yeah talking to this guy is like talking with a brick wall. He is 100% maphacking proof is in the replays. He is just trying to divert the attention from him to someone else which is what hes done with both replays posted its always "the other guy is maphacking not me".
Wrong, when I was accused that I maphacked because I look into FoW I post screenshots from the replay that prove that the statement is wrong. I want AcieDeuce to post a screenshot that he scouts my army in the interval that starts 1 minute before he attacks and the actual attack and I will admit I am wrong...
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On August 17 2013 08:39 Egomancer wrote:
Wrong, when I was accused that I maphacked because I look into FoW I post screenshots from the replay that prove that the statement is wrong. I want AcieDeuce to post a screenshot that he scouts my army 1 minute before he attacks and I will admit I am wrong...
You are wrong buddy watch the replay. You just said you had no defense to the Mutas. You had 3 cannons and multiple Phoenix and more on the way. I don't even think you know what game you are talking about. No one has even mentioned the PvP for like 4 pages so STOP going back to that one.
You maphack plan and simple. Overcharge when army is coming in without seeing it, looking at mutas in FoW, and warping Zealots in choke right before a group of unscouted lings runs in. 3 out of 11 things is all I need to prove your guilt.
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On August 17 2013 08:39 Egomancer wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2013 08:37 -Dustin- wrote:
Yeah talking to this guy is like talking with a brick wall. He is 100% maphacking proof is in the replays. He is just trying to divert the attention from him to someone else which is what hes done with both replays posted its always "the other guy is maphacking not me". Wrong, when I was accused that I maphacked because I look into FoW I post screenshots from the replay that prove that the statement is wrong. I want AcieDeuce to post a screenshot that he scouts my army 1 minute before he attacks and I will admit I am wrong...
I'm not going to bother answering anymore your questions since everything you do shows that you hack, while there MIGHT be one single situation where I do something suspicious. Im not going to watch at the replay again since it is as Dustin said:
talking to this guy is like talking with a brick wall
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On August 17 2013 08:42 -Dustin- wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2013 08:39 Egomancer wrote:
Wrong, when I was accused that I maphacked because I look into FoW I post screenshots from the replay that prove that the statement is wrong. I want AcieDeuce to post a screenshot that he scouts my army 1 minute before he attacks and I will admit I am wrong... You are wrong buddy watch the replay. You just said you had no defense to the Mutas. You had 3 cannons and multiple Phoenix and more on the way. I don't even think you know what game you are talking about. No one has even mentioned the PvP for like 4 pages so STOP going back to that one. You maphack plan and simple. Overcharge when army is coming in without seeing it, looking at mutas in FoW, and warping Zealots in choke right before a group of unscouted lings runs in. 3 out of 11 things is all I need to prove your guilt.
Do not divert the discussion - I want to see that he scouts my army. You keep going back to some stuff that is not relevant... please... prove that he scouts...
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On August 17 2013 08:44 Egomancer wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2013 08:42 -Dustin- wrote:On August 17 2013 08:39 Egomancer wrote:
Wrong, when I was accused that I maphacked because I look into FoW I post screenshots from the replay that prove that the statement is wrong. I want AcieDeuce to post a screenshot that he scouts my army 1 minute before he attacks and I will admit I am wrong... You are wrong buddy watch the replay. You just said you had no defense to the Mutas. You had 3 cannons and multiple Phoenix and more on the way. I don't even think you know what game you are talking about. No one has even mentioned the PvP for like 4 pages so STOP going back to that one. You maphack plan and simple. Overcharge when army is coming in without seeing it, looking at mutas in FoW, and warping Zealots in choke right before a group of unscouted lings runs in. 3 out of 11 things is all I need to prove your guilt. Do not divert the discussion - I want to see that he scouts my army. You keep going back to some stuff that is not relevant... please... prove that he scouts...
You are diverting it not me. Him scouting has absolutely 1000000% nothing to do with you maphacking. NOTHING get that in your head. It does NOT matter what he did its what YOU did.
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On August 17 2013 08:43 AcieDeucie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2013 08:39 Egomancer wrote:On August 17 2013 08:37 -Dustin- wrote:
Yeah talking to this guy is like talking with a brick wall. He is 100% maphacking proof is in the replays. He is just trying to divert the attention from him to someone else which is what hes done with both replays posted its always "the other guy is maphacking not me". Wrong, when I was accused that I maphacked because I look into FoW I post screenshots from the replay that prove that the statement is wrong. I want AcieDeuce to post a screenshot that he scouts my army 1 minute before he attacks and I will admit I am wrong... I'm not going to bother answering anymore your questions since everything you do shows that you hack, while there MIGHT be one single situation where I do something suspicious. Im not going to watch at the replay again since it is as Dustin said:
Man, I never bothered to point all the suspicious stuff in your play as I actually stopped looking at the replay at minute 20 while the game is 35 minutes long. I just pointed things that do not make sense in the first 20 minutes because from minute 20 onwards it is clear that I lost the game even if I continue playing.
So when I ask for screenshots you refuse to give them and so on and so on. And I am the brick wall that no one can talk to...
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On August 17 2013 08:45 -Dustin- wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2013 08:44 Egomancer wrote:On August 17 2013 08:42 -Dustin- wrote:On August 17 2013 08:39 Egomancer wrote:
Wrong, when I was accused that I maphacked because I look into FoW I post screenshots from the replay that prove that the statement is wrong. I want AcieDeuce to post a screenshot that he scouts my army 1 minute before he attacks and I will admit I am wrong... You are wrong buddy watch the replay. You just said you had no defense to the Mutas. You had 3 cannons and multiple Phoenix and more on the way. I don't even think you know what game you are talking about. No one has even mentioned the PvP for like 4 pages so STOP going back to that one. You maphack plan and simple. Overcharge when army is coming in without seeing it, looking at mutas in FoW, and warping Zealots in choke right before a group of unscouted lings runs in. 3 out of 11 things is all I need to prove your guilt. Do not divert the discussion - I want to see that he scouts my army. You keep going back to some stuff that is not relevant... please... prove that he scouts... You are diverting it not me. Him scouting has absolutely 1000000% nothing to do with you maphacking. NOTHING get that in your head. It does NOT matter what he did its what YOU did.
WTF man, you have no hard proof that I am maphacking - just that I make 2 starports without scouting and some weird moves of my army. Tomorrow I will watch the replay once more and I will comment further on it, I am sure that there are some facts that are not true in what you say there....
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And btw, when you stream, make twitch make VODS for you, that will "clear you" etc etc, if your all good. Meanwhile, your profile is no secret, and others you play fo upload replays, alot of them are here: http://www.sc2ranks.com/character/eu/245593/LionHeart/replays
Its just to dig into it for those that wants, ill on the other hand just wait for hiom to play at DH and prove himselfe, untill then, its someone i consider in the same league as myselfe.
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HI,
OK, I will enable the twitch movies once more. The problem was that I was streaming a lot and I filled all the space I had on twitch and from some point onwards I ad to manually delete them or something and it was simpler just to disable that thing...
The problem is that people on this forum claim that I can stream and maphack...so I gues streaming is no evidence that I do not maphack... insanity goes on...what can I say...
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Oh wait...
Now I am watching the replay and things get really interesting:
Min 8.00 - starts 2 evolution chambers (this means roach hydra or ling ultra)
Min 9.36 - starts a hidralisk den, but cancels it midway at minute 10, this while a few posts back claims that he wanted all along to go for a muta build. I assume that halfway his build he forgot that he was supposed to go mutas... but no problem he remembered at minute 10 after he put down to evolution chambers + hydralisk den. Why is that? Well, because at minute 9.46 I put down the robo bay (he never scouted it, but this is why we have the maphack...).
Hahahahahahahhahahahahahaha ...
Min 14.30 - ling attack at 3rd when my army was at second base without previous scout. Great game sense.
Sees my army at min 14.30.
MIn 16.40 - wants to attack at 3rd but stops because my phoenixes come from main to 3rd. No vision of that.
Min 16.53 sees my army again (after 2.20 minutes).
Min 17.27 - some red dots appear on minimap at my 4th. Sees the phoenixes, AMoves the entire army into my secondary. Suspicious but no hard proof of maphacking.
Min 17.46 puts down the ultralisk cavern while he attacks secondary (no mpahack or something)
Min 21.45 he catches my army in a bad position - which proves that I am not maphacking...
Min 24.30 - Randomly makes 6 swarm hosts that once more blindcounter the army I have and that he never scouted. The old army had 5 collosus that would have absolutely destroy his 6 swarm hosts...
Min 26.20 sends the swarm locusts to secondary, my army is at my 4th. Why would a high master destroy a secondary base that is mined out since like 10 minutes ago? We should ask him...
Will keep watching...
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On August 17 2013 09:17 Egomancer wrote:
Oh wait...
Now I am watching the replay and things get really interesting:
Min 8.00 - starts 2 evolution chambers (this means roach hydra or ling ultra)
Min 9.36 - starts a hidralisk den, but cancels it midway at minute 10, this while a few posts back claims that he wanted all along to go for a muta build. I assume that halfway his build he forgot that he was supposed to go mutas... but no problem he remembered at minute 10 after he put down to evolution chambers + hydralisk den. Why is that? Well, because at minute 9.46 I put down the robo bay (he never scout it, but this is why we have the maphack...).
Hahahahahahahhahahahahahaha ...
Will keep watching...
I explained that a few posts ago:
As you can see by the upgrades I chose. I planned to go mutas from beginning(if I can). So when I saw the robo I knew I could go for mutas. I made the hydra den to be safe and cancelled afterwards since at that point I was already committed to mutas due to not having upgrades for range attack.
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OK,
I am sorry, but I watch only GSL and WCS and I did not see there the build with the canceled hydralisk den. This is because I am stupid and I do not understand the game. Can you please point me 2-3 replays with this build so I can see how the other protosses counter it? 
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What I do not understand is if you maphack why the hell do you report others that are maphacking? You know that this will draw attention to your games and you can be exposed...
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On August 17 2013 09:17 Egomancer wrote:
Oh wait...
Now I am watching the replay and things get really interesting:
Min 8.00 - starts 2 evolution chambers (this means roach hydra or ling ultra)
Min 9.36 - starts a hidralisk den, but cancels it midway at minute 10, this while a few posts back claims that he wanted all along to go for a muta build. I assume that halfway his build he forgot that he was supposed to go mutas... but no problem he remembered at minute 10 after he put down to evolution chambers + hydralisk den. Why is that? Well, because at minute 9.46 I put down the robo bay (he never scouted it, but this is why we have the maphack...).
Hahahahahahahhahahahahahaha ...
Min 14.30 - ling attack at 3rd when my army was at second base without previous scout. Great game sense.
Sees my army at min 14.30.
MIn 16.40 - wants to attack at 3rd but stops because my phoenixes come from main to 3rd. No vision of that.
Min 16.53 sees my army again (after 2.20 minutes).
Min 17.27 - some red dots appear on minimap at my 4th. Sees the phoenixes, AMoves the entire army into my secondary. Suspicious but no hard proof of maphacking.
Min 17.46 puts down the ultralisk cavern while he attacks secondary (no mpahack or something)
Min 21.45 he catches my army in a bad position - which proves that I am not maphacking...
Min 24.30 - Randomly makes 6 swarm hosts that once more blindcounter the army I have and that he never scouted. The old army had 5 collosus that would have absolutely destroy his 6 swarm hosts...
Min 26.20 sends the swarm locusts to secondary, my army is at my 4th. Why would a high master destroy a secondary base that is mined out since like 10 minutes ago? We should ask him...
Will keep watching...
What about your cannons at nexus to defend unseen mutas. Or your fow look at mutas? Or nexus cannoning a base before you saw an army.
You hack. You're so stupid with this YOU PROVE TO ME YOU'RE NOT HACKING shit, when you are blatantly, thoroughly, and completely hacking in that replay.
Btw -- edit your posts, numbnuts. Stop making 2-4 posts of trash in a row. You hack, hacker.
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iAmJeffReY- didn't they just post a replay of yours last page where you blatantly maphack? Maybe you should mind your own bussiness?
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On August 17 2013 09:51 Egomancer wrote:
iAmJeffReY- didn't they just post a replay of yours last page where you blatantly maphack? Maybe you should mind your own bussiness?
Oh, you mean the replay I posted of another hacker named MeGo?
Again, my dear boy, misdirection will not work. You again dodge the claims of you hacking, and the points made with accusing of someone else.
"What about your cannons at nexus to defend unseen mutas. Or your fow look at mutas? Or nexus cannoning a base before you saw an army."
Good try. Hacker.
For your reference, hacker.
On August 17 2013 06:29 iAmJeffReY wrote:I lost to this guy I think... ya here's another rep of mego. I'm bad and I lose. But it was so obvious the timings of his attacks and blind counters lol. http://drop.sc/354495pretty sure there's some foul language and rage...anyone that's played me should know i have the mouth of a sailor... sorry friends.
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I'll explain it again so even you can understand it:
My plan was to go for mutas hence the melee upgrades. Since I wasn't 100% sure though what you were planning, I built a hydralisk den in case you were going for a fast 3base all-in. Halfway through I realised that the chances of you doing a fast all-in are almost 0 since you wouldn't build a robo just to make an obs or a single immo -> so I had quite a bit of time before you would attack. Also: I only saw 2 additional gates at your third so you only had 6 gates so I expected you to tech to colossi since thats the normal followup.
I also sent an overseer into your base after that to make sure. And as we know I was right in the regard that you were teching and not all-ining. (Although you went double stargate in addition to the robo).
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