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On August 17 2013 04:09 Egomancer wrote:
I have played like 500 games the past week because I train for Dreamhack and all that you do is to pick ONE fucking replay from 500 and you conclude that I am maphacking. Obviously some 14 years old kids jump on the bandwagon and claim that I maphack presenting 2 more replays of which one has no obvious maphacking on any side and for the second the other player is the actual maphacker...
What can I say, if you want to believe that I am maphacking be my guest, I think I will not loose more time with this. So enjoy... Oh, and BTW, I was streaming like 90% of the time when I was "maphacking".
Over and out...
Man the proof is overwhelming. You can't just write off everything that happened in that replay "because the Zerg was maphacking". Sure you don't maphack all the time, but that doesn't negate the fact that you have (and possibly still are). It just ruins the game for others.
The fact that you keep denying, denying and shifting the focus onto the other players when from what I and multiple others saw in that replay was 100% no doubt maphacking just confuses me.
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I happened to watch this replay on Thursday and was suspicious regarding Lionheart's (aka Egomancer) play but as there was no hard evidence (& had no time to watch replays from others) I did not post here. I watched the replay first from the accused's point of view (Lionheart) and afterward also from his opponent's (Mayhemia) point of view as indeed his scans seemed spot on. As Lionheart aka Egomancer decided to post here I will post my findings.
On August 16 2013 19:46 Egomancer wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 03:07 Mayhemia- wrote:Description: - No scout at all - 6:40 He selects mothership core and expects the marines to come in sight, then he right away does PO. Just look at his camera. Not normal. - First unit to cross my side of the map is Warp prism @ 8 minutes - 12:20 moves his whole army to intercept my drop @ third without slightest vision of anything - 18:00 between 20:00 look at his army movement in relation to my army movement, without vision. Yeah, he's a hacker most likely. At least can't explain those moves when coupled with the rest of the field who think he hacks. Also he accuses me of maphacking all game long. So, there's that as well.  This guy is himslef actually the maphacker. I generally do not post on this thread because I just feed the trolls, but now this is getting hilarious because I loose games because of maphackers AND I am accused of maphacking the same post. SO here it goes:
Did you think out of the box why opponent might have done what he did? You seem to focus that everything you say is solid proof, even if some points are even totally incorrect (you seem not to have watched from his point of view).
On August 16 2013 19:46 Egomancer wrote:
-min 6.10 I put DT shrine down, at min 6.30 he puts down to ebays - maybe because he knows that DTs are coming? Also look at the turret placements over his base.
Timing of building ebays is irrelevant regarding this hack claim as it is normal to build them for upgrades sooner or later. He starts both his infantry upgrades after his later scan when he has knowledge about your tech path.
On August 16 2013 19:46 Egomancer wrote:
- 7.30 scan over my base positioned so he sees my "hidden" dt shrine. Note that it is not centered on the nexus but rather to get all the buildings in the scan. He never previously scouted so he could not know that I have buildings there. Furthermore he scouts the warpPrism spawning. Best scan ever, really. If I would have scans like that I would never ever loose.
The scans are spot on but logical. He had already scouted your natural & knows that you have very trigger-happy defense there (he scouted your natural with marines & saw nexus cannon). Based on this logical thing to scan is the area of your main if he decides to scan. As the DT shrine is not in "hidden position" like you claim, it would be often seen if the main is scanned.
On August 16 2013 19:46 Egomancer wrote:
- 9.20 I land 2 DTs in his base, he does not see the DTs landing, does not know that they have landed. DTs are on hold position so he absolutely can not know they are there. What does he do, SCANS at min 11 (100 seconds later) and kills them. Once more, this guy is going to be grandmaster soon based on a scan 100 seconds later (basically a radom scan in his base) on 2 dts that are on hold position in his base and do nothing, he does not see them, does not know that they are there and so on.
This claim is totally incorrect. He (Mayhemia) knows all the time that dt:s are there. You should know that dt's are not invisible and they make sound when they are unloaded from the prism. Your opponent is viewing his army at his main ramp when you drop just outside his vision (prism visible on minimap). He clearly hears the unload sound and then checks that position and finds the DT:s. As there are two and both in immobile he decides not to use scan but to build turret near. He keeps dt:s most of the time in his vision. But in the end he has to scan as he positioned his turret incorrectly as dt:s are left just outside its detection range.
On August 16 2013 19:46 Egomancer wrote:
- 12.00 Second scan in my secondary, spot on the army.... I know that a drop is coming (he says that I blindly move my army to third base and this is why)
-12.13 Sends a double drop to my third, but wait ... he NEVER SCOUTED IT... maphack anyone?
At 11:58 he scans your army --> He knows where that your main force is at your natural & that natural is nearly fully saturated (before this scan he looks at your natural at 11:30 likely wanting to scan but he has no energy. He returns immediately when he hits 50 energy and scans). If he wants to drop, possible targets are your main or your possible third base. And it is not hard to deduce that at that timing you have third / soon will have third.
Also how is "NEVER SCOUTED IT" a proof? You don't scout at all in the entire game (exceptions stationary observers in front of your forces, info that prism got while flying to his base and back to your base). He scouts all the time throughout the game (dropping is scouting too).
On August 16 2013 19:46 Egomancer wrote:
- 15.35 Third scan on my 2 pylons in front of my maps. I mean really, what can be more obvious than that? He scanned 3 times this game, EVERYTIME spot on my army and last scan is basically random as I could have had the army anywhere on the map.
He already knows you have third as he tried to drop it. Due to map layout the best position to defend third and natural is to keep your army stationed between your natural & third. Thus it is not unlikely position to scan. And he does not need to scan another position as he catches your main army with his first scan.
On August 16 2013 19:46 Egomancer wrote:- 15.35 My 4th goes down, instantly sends a marine to scout it  . The rest is just me owning him....
He also scouts the other side of the map at the same time. Normal scouting.
Also regarding the final battle at 19:35 it is hard to believe he hacks as when he maxes out he moves out from his defensive position between his natural & third. He stumbles in bad angle into your army that has perfect concave & was just outside his vision range. His army is thus totally annihilated. Very unlikely move if he knew your army was there. Of course hacking from his part is not impossible, but I find it unlikely based on the replay.
On August 16 2013 19:46 Egomancer wrote:
He accuses me that I select my army and my mothership core, but I checked the replay (obviously I do not remember all that I do in everygame) and I react AFTER I see his marines at min 6.39, so please explain me where is the maphack - just check my vision at min 6.40. As for the army position at min 12.30 - after he scans at min 12 I know a drop is coming and KNOWING that he is a maphacker I move to my new third.
It really is a sorry day for this game when obvious maphackers accuse other of maphacking and Blizzard has to do something about it, really!!!
Bold talk. During the match you determine your opponent "is a map hacker" based on only one scan and immediately accuse him in chat. You never scout (not counting info that warp prism gains when it drops the 2 dt:s) & he scouts all the time, whether it be scans, pressure, drops or scouts. The 'hard evidence' you present that your opponent is a hacker is mostly irrelevant or incorrect.
But now let us I find your (Lionheart aka Egomancer) play suspicious. Please note that none of these are 'hard evidence', but make the game on your part suspicious.
- At 6:37 you select your mothership core & center at it the first time (not counting driving away the scout SCV and move command to that position). When marines appear three seconds later from fog of war you immediately create nexus cannon
- Little after your opponent has scanned your natural at 12:00 (12:20 just after medivacs are enroute), you move your entire army to your third. Yes it is normal that terrans often like to drop after they scan to some other location. In this case your third would be as likely location as your main. You leave your main completely naked (except mscore on natural). If the drop would have hit your main you would have been in serious trouble. In your text you state "I know a drop is coming and KNOWING that he is a maphacker". You still had no scouting info of that drop and were taking a huge risk.
- After your opponent scouts your 4th at 16:40 he starts to prepare pushing it. At 17:05 you send probe from your 4th to make two forward pylons to likely spot possible push to 4th. You then select your main army and move your view back to the probe. As opponents forces appear at that time from the fog of war you can A-move your army as you had already selected it. After the push is defeated you will not build any forward spotter pylons you were going build. What makes this suspicious is that before that you almost never select your army unless you are moving it / binding it to hotkeys. You keep it selected 8 blizzard-seconds and look at the probe ready to act immediately.
As you don't scout and seem to be exactly correct place & army trigger-ready all of these times I find it suspicious. Especially as these situations differ from your basic flow of play. But are these heavy evidence? No.
On August 17 2013 02:33 Egomancer wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2013 02:20 FFW_Rude wrote:
I love the bold part. The guy scan and you say he maphacks. But how do you know... Because you saw the ebays. (if it was a maphacker he would have build one. Not two. He is going bio). 7minute scan is really ok.
And for the DT that is NOT a money scan. He "wobbles" his screen to see the shadow of the DT (that you REALLY WELL can see on this tileset)
You mean the drop that you intercept PERFECTLY because you move your whole army 20seconds before he hits your third ? So basically you say that there is nothing suspicious in a game where the terran scans exactly 3 times and those scans are: 1. hidden tech 2. some dts in his base that do not do damage and he can not see 3. the army randomly on the map ... Well, what can I say then...the guy is a genious and does not maphack...
I am not sure about your grasp of the game or are you trying to find evidence when there is no evidence. DTs are not invisible. They can be clearly seen if you notice the blur. And in this case he heard when DTs were unloaded and spotted them immediately. Positioning the army between third & natural is completely typical in this map if you have third (you both do this). It is not a random position to scan. The scans were spot on, but the scan locations were totally logical.
In the end the suspicious player in the replay is you (Lionheart aka Egomancer) even if there is no conclusive evidence that you hacked in it. There has been several recent posts with multiple different replays where you have been suspected of hacking. I have not seen them, but they should be analyzed & possible other replays of 'fishy' games be posted with analysis. You are also in such position (Team NRS owner? / manager) that these kind of accusations should be taken seriously. _If_ you hack I hope you will be caught with conclusive evidence. Also it does not look good when a team owner posts weak/irrelevant 'evidence' as 'hard evidence' that his opponent's were hacking. Nor it does not look good when a team owner accuses people who disagree with him to be trolls, hackers or underaged kids.
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On August 17 2013 05:38 -Dustin- wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2013 04:09 Egomancer wrote:
I have played like 500 games the past week because I train for Dreamhack and all that you do is to pick ONE fucking replay from 500 and you conclude that I am maphacking. Obviously some 14 years old kids jump on the bandwagon and claim that I maphack presenting 2 more replays of which one has no obvious maphacking on any side and for the second the other player is the actual maphacker...
What can I say, if you want to believe that I am maphacking be my guest, I think I will not loose more time with this. So enjoy... Oh, and BTW, I was streaming like 90% of the time when I was "maphacking".
Over and out... Man the proof is overwhelming. You can't just write off everything that happened in that replay "because the Zerg was maphacking". Sure you don't maphack all the time, but that doesn't negate the fact that you have (and possibly still are). It just ruins the game for others. Ok you streamed 90% so I assume the 10% you didn't stream was when you was maphacking? The fact that you keep denying, denying and shifting the focus onto the other players when from what I and multiple others saw in that replay was 100% no doubt maphacking just confuses me.
Streaming is also no proof, you can still hack while streaming.
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On August 17 2013 05:41 korona wrote:
In the end the suspicious player in the replay is you (Lionheart aka Egomancer) even if there is no conclusive evidence that you hacked in it. There has been several recent posts with multiple different replays where you have been suspected of hacking. I have not seen them, but they should be analyzed & possible other replays of 'fishy' games be posted with analysis. You are also in such position (Team NRS owner? / manager) that these kind of accusations should be taken seriously. _If_ you hack I hope you will be caught with conclusive evidence. Also it does not look good when a team owner posts weak/irrelevant 'evidence' as 'hard evidence' that his opponent's were hacking. Nor it does not look good when a team owner accuses people who disagree with him to be trolls, hackers or underaged kids.
There are 3 replays from roughly 500 games which means less than 1% of the total number of games.
a. In game 1 some weird things happen on both sides...
b. In game 2 that you analyze some things on my side may look suspicious but they are not as suspicious as those scans. So it is harder to believe that I select my MC at 6.30 because I fear a marines push, but those scans are not suspicious. I mean how does a scan in front of my secondary at min 12 helps? At that minute logical would be to scan the 3rd as he wants to drop it anyway... Also DTs are visible depending on your computer settings, there are some settings where you can not actually see them. And you say that he peeks in FoW without vision at min 11.58? Now that is hard proof that he is maphacking...
You give credit to a gut that scans exactly 4 times in a 25 mins game and each scan is spot on, more than that they are game changers...and then you wonder why I suspect him of maphacking.
c. Replay 3 is ... I mean the guy just jumps the bandwagon... there is no real suspicion of maphacking on any side...
My honest conclusion is that if you look at any game you can find suspicious stuff at any player. I will try to stop posting here because everyone just jumps on me without any hard stuff to point and we are getting nowhere...
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On August 17 2013 05:38 -Dustin- wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2013 04:09 Egomancer wrote:
I have played like 500 games the past week because I train for Dreamhack and all that you do is to pick ONE fucking replay from 500 and you conclude that I am maphacking. Obviously some 14 years old kids jump on the bandwagon and claim that I maphack presenting 2 more replays of which one has no obvious maphacking on any side and for the second the other player is the actual maphacker...
What can I say, if you want to believe that I am maphacking be my guest, I think I will not loose more time with this. So enjoy... Oh, and BTW, I was streaming like 90% of the time when I was "maphacking".
Over and out... Man the proof is overwhelming. You can't just write off everything that happened in that replay "because the Zerg was maphacking". Sure you don't maphack all the time, but that doesn't negate the fact that you have (and possibly still are). It just ruins the game for others. Ok you streamed 90% so I assume the 10% you didn't stream was when you was maphacking? The fact that you keep denying, denying and shifting the focus onto the other players when from what I and multiple others saw in that replay was 100% no doubt maphacking just confuses me.
You can still hack while streaming, thanks to OBS...
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Alright wasn't aware of that as I don't know much about streaming thanks.
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On August 17 2013 06:00 Egomancer wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2013 05:41 korona wrote:
In the end the suspicious player in the replay is you (Lionheart aka Egomancer) even if there is no conclusive evidence that you hacked in it. There has been several recent posts with multiple different replays where you have been suspected of hacking. I have not seen them, but they should be analyzed & possible other replays of 'fishy' games be posted with analysis. You are also in such position (Team NRS owner? / manager) that these kind of accusations should be taken seriously. _If_ you hack I hope you will be caught with conclusive evidence. Also it does not look good when a team owner posts weak/irrelevant 'evidence' as 'hard evidence' that his opponent's were hacking. Nor it does not look good when a team owner accuses people who disagree with him to be trolls, hackers or underaged kids. There are 3 replays from roughly 500 games which means less than 1% of the total number of games.
It does take 1 replay with conclusive evidence. I have seen 1 replay and it did not contain conclusive evidence (but your claims regarding your opponents actions in it were very weak). Why don't you publish all 500 replays as you keep bringing them up?
On August 17 2013 06:00 Egomancer wrote:
b. In game 2 that you analyze some things on my side may look suspicious but they are not as suspicious as those scans. So it is harder to believe that I select my MC at 6.30 because I fear a marines push, but those scans are not suspicious. I mean how does a scan in front of my secondary at min 12 helps? At that minute logical would be to scan the 3rd as he wants to drop it anyway... Also DTs are visible depending on your computer settings, there are some settings where you can not actually see them. And you say that he peeks in FoW without vision at min 11.58? Now that is hard proof that he is maphacking...
You give credit to a gut that scans exactly 4 times in a 25 mins game and each scan is spot on, more than that they are game changers...and then you wonder why I suspect him of maphacking.
Again you accuse your opponent without hard proof. Peeking at FoW is not hard proof especially as he was clearly going to scan. Or was it hard proof that you were looking at FoW at the place where your robo was rallied? No. And many map hacks even have screen locks that prevent FoW peeks to be seen in replay. Everybody is all the time peeking at the FoW for various reasons.
On August 17 2013 06:00 Egomancer wrote:
My honest conclusion is that if you look at any game you can find suspicious stuff at any player. I will try to stop posting here because everyone just jumps on me without any hard stuff to point and we are getting nowhere...
As you keep mentioning that these replays consist only 1% of all of your 500 replays why don't you publish them all? I would also suggest some restraints when claiming suspicious moments that happen all the time as hard evidence of your opponents hacking when you are accused yourself.
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I lost to this guy I think...
ya here's another rep of mego. I'm bad and I lose. But it was so obvious the timings of his attacks and blind counters lol.
http://drop.sc/354495
pretty sure there's some foul language and rage...anyone that's played me should know i have the mouth of a sailor... sorry friends.
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On August 17 2013 06:14 korona wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2013 06:00 Egomancer wrote:On August 17 2013 05:41 korona wrote:
In the end the suspicious player in the replay is you (Lionheart aka Egomancer) even if there is no conclusive evidence that you hacked in it. There has been several recent posts with multiple different replays where you have been suspected of hacking. I have not seen them, but they should be analyzed & possible other replays of 'fishy' games be posted with analysis. You are also in such position (Team NRS owner? / manager) that these kind of accusations should be taken seriously. _If_ you hack I hope you will be caught with conclusive evidence. Also it does not look good when a team owner posts weak/irrelevant 'evidence' as 'hard evidence' that his opponent's were hacking. Nor it does not look good when a team owner accuses people who disagree with him to be trolls, hackers or underaged kids. There are 3 replays from roughly 500 games which means less than 1% of the total number of games. It does take 1 replay with conclusive evidence. I have seen 1 replay and it did not contain conclusive evidence (but your claims regarding your opponents actions in it were very weak). Why don't you publish all 500 replays as you keep bringing them up? Show nested quote +On August 17 2013 06:00 Egomancer wrote:
b. In game 2 that you analyze some things on my side may look suspicious but they are not as suspicious as those scans. So it is harder to believe that I select my MC at 6.30 because I fear a marines push, but those scans are not suspicious. I mean how does a scan in front of my secondary at min 12 helps? At that minute logical would be to scan the 3rd as he wants to drop it anyway... Also DTs are visible depending on your computer settings, there are some settings where you can not actually see them. And you say that he peeks in FoW without vision at min 11.58? Now that is hard proof that he is maphacking...
You give credit to a gut that scans exactly 4 times in a 25 mins game and each scan is spot on, more than that they are game changers...and then you wonder why I suspect him of maphacking.
Again you accuse your opponent without hard proof. Peeking at FoW is not hard proof especially as he was clearly going to scan. Or was it hard proof that you were looking at FoW at the place where your robo was rallied? No. And many map hacks even have screen locks that prevent FoW peeks to be seen in replay. Everybody is all the time peeking at the FoW for various reasons. Show nested quote +On August 17 2013 06:00 Egomancer wrote:
My honest conclusion is that if you look at any game you can find suspicious stuff at any player. I will try to stop posting here because everyone just jumps on me without any hard stuff to point and we are getting nowhere... As you keep mentioning that these replays consist only 1% of all of your 500 replays why don't you publish them all? I would also suggest some restraints when claiming suspicious moments that happen all the time as hard evidence of your opponents hacking when you are accused yourself.
Check my earlier post. (2 pages ago) He played a Zerg and the evidence is in my opinion 100% proof no doubt. This is the replay if you want to watch for yourself. http://drop.sc/352984
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Peeking into FoW is hardproof. If that is not hardproof, then what is?
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On August 17 2013 06:29 iAmJeffReY wrote:I lost to this guy I think... ya here's another rep of mego. I'm bad and I lose. But it was so obvious the timings of his attacks and blind counters lol. http://drop.sc/354495pretty sure there's some foul language and rage...anyone that's played me should know i have the mouth of a sailor... sorry friends.
Yeah hes for sure hacking.
5:10 No vision pulls all Drones from expansion and starts Lings because of incoming Reapers.
8:00 Moves Lings around your Hellions in FoW so they aren't scouted going to your undefended expansion.
9:15 Moves Lings around Hellions in FoW to escape without loses.
10:45 Moves camera on top of your Hellions going to his third that are in FoW
15:25 Rallys units to third as your Reapers are coming in with no vision of them.
On August 17 2013 06:39 Egomancer wrote:
Peeking into FoW is hardproof. If that is not hardproof, then what is?
This is hard proof: + Show Spoiler +9:35 Zerg starts Hydra Den 9:40 he starts Robo Bay.
Zerg starts spire 20 seconds later 2 Stargates
12:20: Mutas popped he builds an extra pylon and 3 cannons in his mineral line and chronos phoenix's out with no scout of anything.
12:58: Mutas move in to his expansions mineral lines (cannons finishing) BEFORE the Mutas are in vision he moves his camera into the FoW behind the mineral line (Right on the Mutas)
16:48 Zerg army about to run into his third he used Nexus Overcharge without seeing the Zergs army.
17:42 Zerglings going to run into expansion immediately warps in 5 Zealots into his choke. Again could not see the Lings.
19:05 Mutas flying into expansion again looks at them in FoW and then sends his Phoenix's there. No vision.
21:00 Sends DT's to unscouted base.
21:40 Army is clearing creep Zerglings go for run by on his 4th looks at ramp and pulls army back before their in vision.
27:35 Zerg leaves Swarmhosts unattended attacks directly on top of them without scouting where exactly they were (knew the general area but had not seen locusts pop or the Hosts)
29:40 Has army clearing 4th of a Hydralisk Zerg positions his army between expansion and 3rd he moves his army to the ramp above them and starts warping in Zealots there.
You can't really say because a Terran looked at your base for a second in FoW he was maphacking because even I, and pro players do this when we think we have enough energy to scan but alas we don't. You will see them seconds later when they have enough energy scan the same place they were looking.
So if that's your only reasoning for him maphacking its a very weak argument at best.
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On August 17 2013 06:45 -Dustin- wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2013 06:29 iAmJeffReY wrote:I lost to this guy I think... ya here's another rep of mego. I'm bad and I lose. But it was so obvious the timings of his attacks and blind counters lol. http://drop.sc/354495pretty sure there's some foul language and rage...anyone that's played me should know i have the mouth of a sailor... sorry friends. Yeah hes for sure hacking. 5:10 No vision pulls all Drones from expansion and starts Lings because of incoming Reapers. 8:00 Moves Lings around your Hellions in FoW so they aren't scouted going to your undefended expansion. 9:15 Moves Lings around Hellions in FoW to escape without loses. 10:45 Moves camera on top of your Hellions going to his third that are in FoW 15:25 Rallys units to third as your Reapers are coming in with no vision of them.
Yay! I did something right for once. Huzzah let's report more retards.
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On August 17 2013 06:45 -Dustin- wrote:
You can't really say because a Terran looked at your base for a second in FoW was maphacking because even I, and pro players do this when we think we have enough energy to scan but alas we don't. You will see them seconds later when they have enough energy scan the same place they were looking.
So if that's your only reasoning for him maphacking its a very weak argument at best.
Ohhh, sorry...so now terrans can look into FoW on top of the enemy base and this means that he is not maphacking. Ok, sorry mate, will not bring this on next time... And of course they can scan spot on everytime - this means 4 times in 25 minutes. And they can position their army perfectly against my army in the FoW and so on...
Just grow up please...I mean at this point I know that whatever I say you will not believe me, but really....
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On August 17 2013 06:55 Egomancer wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2013 06:45 -Dustin- wrote:
You can't really say because a Terran looked at your base for a second in FoW was maphacking because even I, and pro players do this when we think we have enough energy to scan but alas we don't. You will see them seconds later when they have enough energy scan the same place they were looking.
So if that's your only reasoning for him maphacking its a very weak argument at best. Ohhh, sorry...so now terrans can look into FoW on top of the enemy base and this means that he is not maphacking. Ok, sorry mate, will not bring this on next time... And of course they can scan spot on everytime - this means 4 times in 25 minutes. And they can position their army perfectly against my army in the FoW and so on... Just grow up please...I mean at this point I know that whatever I say you will not believe me, but really....
Are you even listening to yourself? "Positioned his army perfectly" he got caught of guard by your army and got decimated. Sure the scans can be suspicious but they can also be lucky. Considering that's your only evidence it's a terrible argument.
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That was an ironic post, I never claimed that this particular guy positioned perfectly. The sad thing is that it is OK for you to look into FoW but it is not OK for me to look into FoW and it is OK for you to perfectly scan me but it is not OK for me to anticipate your moves...
You definetly have clear evidence that I am maphacking - because I selected my mothership core at the minute when I fear an all in is coming...
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On August 17 2013 07:06 Egomancer wrote:
That was an ironic post, I never claimed that this particular guy positioned perfectly. The sad thing is that it is OK for you to look into FoW but it is not OK for me to look into FoW and it is OK for you to perfectly scan me but it is not OK for me to anticipate your moves...
You definetly have clear evidence that I am maphacking - because I selected my mothership core at the minute when I fear an all in is coming...
I never said anything about your MSC. You seem to be only defending that replay and completely ignoring the one with you VS DucieAcie. You haven't answered for any of the suspicious actions in that game you just keep going back to the TvP. I guess its hard to defend a replay that shows 11 instances of you maphacking huh?
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I have admitted that there are suspicious thing on both sides at the game with DucieAcie and I was never talking about it. I was and I am talking about the game against the terran. So let's please focus on that...
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On August 17 2013 07:06 Egomancer wrote:
That was an ironic post, I never claimed that this particular guy positioned perfectly. The sad thing is that it is OK for you to look into FoW but it is not OK for me to look into FoW and it is OK for you to perfectly scan me but it is not OK for me to anticipate your moves...
You definetly have clear evidence that I am maphacking - because I selected my mothership core at the minute when I fear an all in is coming...
The ironic part is you avoiding all the accusations against you, and just spewing some back. The ol' it's him, not me trick eh?
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Well, that guy is a maphacker and he reports me. Wouldn't you be pissed off? I know that I am ...
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On August 17 2013 07:15 Egomancer wrote:
I have admitted that there are suspicious thing on both sides at the game with DucieAcie and I was never talking about it. I was and I am talking about the game against the terran. So let's please focus on that...
That's the problem... It doesn't show "suspicious things on both sides" it shows you maphacking with no attempts to hide it. I would like for you to watch the replay and give me reasons for each of the suspicious actions you do that I listed and prove to me that you weren't maphacking.
If you do this please do not even mention "but he done this" or he "done that suspicious move" its not about him its about you.
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