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StillSuX
France4 Posts
You are so spotted and apparently you loose againt an other MH, what a shame to come here and pretend find a MH... | ||
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Egomancer
Romania119 Posts
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Nyast
Belgium554 Posts
On August 16 2013 21:36 Egomancer wrote: OK, SO your screenshot is from min 5.22 where the camera is where you said it is, but that is because when I move the camera I move it by getting the mouse to the bottom margin of the screen and I kept the mouse there a little more and the camera went down for 2-3 frames more than it should. However here are the screenshots with what my camera sees, and where your troops are. As you can see your army is NOT in my camera view... So what you are reporting is not true...my camera at min 5.26 never goes where you say it goes... My screenshot is from 5'26. The time is displayed on top of the minimap. This is a screenshot directly coming from the replay. And it is from your view, as you can see the camera lock icon is enabled on the right. And my army is not visible yet in it, neither in the viewport nor on the minimap. | ||
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StillSuX
France4 Posts
At least i dont MH ! | ||
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Egomancer
Romania119 Posts
@Nyast: ok, I see that, but look at my 3 screenshots that I posted, there is a fuck-up somewhere as what I see is different from what you see and it is not normal as we both look at the same replay... | ||
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StillSuX
France4 Posts
Seriously ? Give replay plz, il really want to see that, I will even pay ! You are so stupid, its insane ! You still dont have analyse the replay from Wormi, its good how with 80 apm you can be soooo gosu. I stop talking with you, dont feed MH ! User was banned for this post. | ||
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J_EU
47 Posts
On August 16 2013 21:36 Egomancer wrote: OK, SO your screenshot is from min 5.22 where the camera is where you said it is, but that is because when I move the camera I move it by getting the mouse to the bottom margin of the screen and I kept the mouse there a little more and the camera went down for 2-3 frames more than it should. However here are the screenshots with what my camera sees, and where your troops are. As you can see your army is NOT in my camera view... + Show Spoiler + MY camera: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/5XIlov7.png) Your troops: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/F8Xf7fN.png) just look at the minimap. Supposing that I would have had a maphack I would not see them under the for of war. Min 5.26 when your troops appear on the minimap: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ycbvf35.png) So what you are reporting is not true...my camera at min 5.26 never goes where you say it goes... Just downloaded and watched the replay myselfe, and i saw the same. What im questioning is the statement about "fake pressure", who lets a second gate finish in PvP, and not having a plan for a timingattack? This is even normal in lower leagues, i face it all the time, that ranging from gold to masterplayers (im plat myselfe) That attack is expected every time ... isnt it? However in the AcieDeucie vs LionHeart game something happends that isnt pointed out yet, the Nexuscannon at 16:47. That one is rather strange as there is no vision over the army outside the third, and its not like the MSC has 200 energy and enough for another overcharge. As for the 2stargate transition, i dont have many comments. Myselfe i play a similar build, robo into airtoss, with templartech on the side. Ofc my build isnt refined in any way as i dont really spend that much time trying to perfect it. But i really dont see anything strange about it. If i had been in the same situation, not spottting any gasunits over a longer periode of time i would expect something to appear in flock, like mutas or ultras (perhaps also Broodloords). Only against ultras a phoenixstat would be bad, for obviouse reasons. TL;DR: AcieDeucie vs LionHear, strange nexuscannon @ 16:47 at third, rest looks normal to me, Nyast game aswell Edit: Why is APM a valid point? I really cant see thats being one, at all. Some just dont spam, and still have great mechanics and gamesense. Sometimes, fast fingers not always means a fast brain ... Edit2: in response to what Dustin pointed out in this post, yeah, that game looks real fishy. Also Dustin didnt spot that he retracted his hole army for one burrowed ling, and he didnt even try to build the Nexus first, just straight pulled stuff back to deal with it. | ||
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Nyast
Belgium554 Posts
On August 16 2013 22:58 Egomancer wrote: @StillSuX: I assume that you are that terran that I caught maphacking...so... @Nyast: ok, I see that, but look at my 3 screenshots that I posted, there is a fuck-up somewhere as what I see is different from what you see and it is not normal as we both look at the same replay... The two first pics are irrelevant since they're at 5'22, I also see the same at that time and there's nothing suspicious about it. The third pic is indeed at 5'26 and you see the dots on the minimap while your camera's still at the old pos, but that's not what I see in my replay  I don't really know what I could add to that, maybe some more people could check carefully. It's well known that there are some camera glicthes in the replay system, so it could be that too. In any case, you reacted within a game-second time, which is quite fast, but that alone doesn't mean you're cheating. I don't know about the other replays. | ||
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BobIsMyUncle
Belgium12 Posts
I don't know why blizzard don't put a detection tool for automation since it's the easy part of detecting a cheater. lag can also produce several or more actions all on the same frame, although in this case its a cheater but an automated system wouldnt work and if the cheaters knew they were getting banned due to this the cheats would just change and then its back to the start again. this doesn't prove maphack or anything though and i don't know blizzards policy for a program combining mouse and keyboard input to help with such things, maybe its not enough or not as bad they don't worry about it and are only interested in maphack and exploits. | ||
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ChrisFreak
Germany13 Posts
Before you watch it,i wanna apologize for any flames i may have done during the game,but since i knew Tarpaud was in a team with ImBaTosS and JuicyPeach,i'm rather sure he's also maphacking. Player:[|IMBA|]Tarpaud League:GM Race  rotossRegion:EU http://drop.sc/354459 PvP on Whirlwind,basically his build isnt all too suspicious,but the fact,that he doesn't scout at all after his DT harrass makes me sceptical.He's playing completely blind the whole game,playing real fucking greedy because he knows,he can.Then have a look at his teching,which does completely randomly blindcounter my composition.At the moment i'm attacking he's moving his high templar forward his army to feedback my mothershipcore without seeing it before. But basically,the fact that he doesn't scouts all game long while completely blindcountering my army makes me feel he's a maphacker. I'd be very pleased if someone could check this,thanks already. Best regards,CPU | ||
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-Dustin-
United States718 Posts
I watched the replay: http://drop.sc/352984 LionHeart vs AcieDucie I want to start off by saying 20 minutes in he hasn't even left his bases. No observers no scouts nothing. 9:35 Zerg starts Hydra Den 9:40 he starts Robo Bay. Zerg starts spire 20 seconds later 2 Stargates 12:20: Mutas popped he builds an extra pylon and 3 cannons in his mineral line and chronos phoenix's out with no scout of anything. 12:58: Mutas move in to his expansions mineral lines (cannons finishing) BEFORE the Mutas are in vision he moves his camera into the FoW behind the mineral line (Right on the Mutas) 16:48 Zerg army about to run into his third he used Nexus Overcharge without seeing the Zergs army. 17:42 Zerglings going to run into expansion immediately warps in 5 Zealots into his choke. Again could not see the Lings. 19:05 Mutas flying into expansion again looks at them in FoW and then sends his Phoenix's there. No vision. 21:00 Sends DT's to unscouted base. 21:40 Army is clearing creep Zerglings go for run by on his 4th looks at ramp and pulls army back before their in vision. 27:35 Zerg leaves Swarmhosts unattended attacks directly on top of them without scouting where exactly they were (knew the general area but had not seen locusts pop or the Hosts) 29:40 Has army clearing 4th of a Hydralisk Zerg positions his army between expansion and 3rd he moves his army to the ramp above them and starts warping in Zealots there. Do I really have to say anymore? | ||
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Darkthorn
Romania912 Posts
On August 16 2013 13:52 AlaStOrSC wrote: I'm not going to put the replay cause he didnt played just afk scv's, but im pretty sure archangel is hacker, since a saw a lot of people(friends showed me replays so obvious with moves in the dark etc) saying this, but more than this, archangel is = [D!e]Losty or [D!e]lover look their match history they search games in the night to give themselves freepoints, and since archangel is suposed to be a hacker i think losty or lover are too hackers... can anyone give me the reason? xD maybe im getting crazy, im open to new ideas xD User was warned for this post As far as I know archangel and losty are the same person, might be wrong but I really doubt it. | ||
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NbForLife
France14 Posts
On August 16 2013 23:34 ChrisFreak wrote: Pls someone check this replay and tell me if i'm wrong with my accusations. Before you watch it,i wanna apologize for any flames i may have done during the game,but since i knew Tarpaud was in a team with ImBaTosS and JuicyPeach,i'm rather sure he's also maphacking. Player:[|IMBA|]Tarpaud League:GM Race rotossRegion:EU http://drop.sc/354459 PvP on Whirlwind,basically his build isnt all too suspicious,but the fact,that he doesn't scout at all after his DT harrass makes me sceptical.He's playing completely blind the whole game,playing real fucking greedy because he knows,he can.Then have a look at his teching,which does completely randomly blindcounter my composition.At the moment i'm attacking he's moving his high templar forward his army to feedback my mothershipcore without seeing it before. But basically,the fact that he doesn't scouts all game long while completely blindcountering my army makes me feel he's a maphacker. I'd be very pleased if someone could check this,thanks already. Best regards,CPU Im french and Tarpaud is known for maphacking, all french community know that ! | ||
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vBr
Sweden193 Posts
On August 16 2013 23:34 ChrisFreak wrote: Pls someone check this replay and tell me if i'm wrong with my accusations. Before you watch it,i wanna apologize for any flames i may have done during the game,but since i knew Tarpaud was in a team with ImBaTosS and JuicyPeach,i'm rather sure he's also maphacking. Player:[|IMBA|]Tarpaud League:GM Race rotossRegion:EU http://drop.sc/354459 PvP on Whirlwind,basically his build isnt all too suspicious,but the fact,that he doesn't scout at all after his DT harrass makes me sceptical.He's playing completely blind the whole game,playing real fucking greedy because he knows,he can.Then have a look at his teching,which does completely randomly blindcounter my composition.At the moment i'm attacking he's moving his high templar forward his army to feedback my mothershipcore without seeing it before. But basically,the fact that he doesn't scouts all game long while completely blindcountering my army makes me feel he's a maphacker. I'd be very pleased if someone could check this,thanks already. Best regards,CPU 6:20 he warps in 2 more defensive sentries (all the gas he saved for dts) just before an attack for no apparent reason (he doesn't know its coming. Wasting all that gas is senseless and stupid, noone wants 4 sentries in a PvP) He doesn't scout at all after the initial dt-harass. He saw a stargate then so its not really unthinkable that his opponent would go voidray/phoenix, but he builds an army tailored to combat Robo units (basically no anti-air at all). Hardly conclusive evidence, but a bit strange. 15:15-20 - spreads his army and moves ht in front before the fight. This is pretty damn conclusive. I'd say he probably hacks, but would prefer more replays just to be sure.. | ||
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Egomancer
Romania119 Posts
Why does the zerg attempt the runby at min 17.40? Can you please answer me that question? I mean he does not scout where my army is just puts all his army on one control and attacks my secondary. Please tell me why does he do that? Maybe because he has a maphack and knows where I am ? No one answers this simple question... | ||
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-Dustin-
United States718 Posts
On August 17 2013 00:04 Egomancer wrote: Dustin, Why does the zerg attempt the runby at min 17.40? Can you please answer me that question? I mean he does not scout where my army is just puts all his army on one control and attacks my secondary. Please tell me why does he do that? Maybe because he has a maphack and knows where I am ? No one answers this simple question... Will you first explain the 11 different occasions that show you maphacking in that replay for me first? | ||
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J_EU
47 Posts
On August 17 2013 00:04 Egomancer wrote: Dustin, Why does the zerg attempt the runby at min 17.40? Can you please answer me that question? I mean he does not scout where my army is just puts all his army on one control and attacks my secondary. Please tell me why does he do that? Maybe because he has a maphack and knows where I am ? No one answers this simple question... @17:38 you position your army over his burried ling, safe to assume that would trigger some sort of response since your really far out of position? Simple question, simple answer. And to answer another question before you ask it, yes he only saw your phoenixes on the main screen, however if you look on the minimap, you will see more dots entering that area, real easy to assume thats the rest of your army. | ||
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NbForLife
France14 Posts
@Egomancer Dustin shows us so many evidence that you maphack for sure 100% ! and you totally dont answer to Dutin on all your moves... You have some balls i admit it to come here and give replay where you maphack to try to caught an other maphacker (I dont know if the Zerg in question maphack). | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On August 16 2013 23:49 NbForLife wrote: Im french and Tarpaud is known for maphacking, all french community know that ! First time i come to watch those kind of replays and i don't see anything conclusive. He doesn't scout ok. But he scouts top left and bottom right and see's nothing. He doesn't defend well against the oracle (and he saw it with the first dt harass). He doesn't react at all before attack notification. At 15:15 - 30 he just move his army. I do that do when playing zerg. He took charge right from the start so... blind counter ok. but this is it. Really NO evidence for me. If you watch his HT, he doesn't go near your MSC. He is moving down yes. but then he click left (your MSC comes from right) and left is your army. For me he doesn't hack. | ||
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Faust852
Luxembourg4004 Posts
On August 17 2013 00:14 FFW_Rude wrote: First time i come to watch those kind of replays and i don't see anything conclusive. He doesn't scout ok. But he scouts top left and bottom right and see's nothing. He doesn't defend well against the oracle (and he saw it with the first dt harass). He doesn't react at all before attack notification. At 15:15 - 30 he just move his army. I do that do when playing zerg. He took charge right from the start so... blind counter ok. but this is it. Really NO evidence for me. If you watch his HT, he doesn't go near your MSC. He is moving down yes. but then he click left (your MSC comes from right) and left is your army. For me he doesn't hack. Tarpaud, also known as Attàx or Yeshira. He already has some post here about him, one from NarutO. This guy has been suspicious since more than a year, and recently, he has been caught maphacking during a major event in France, the Championat Francophone. One of the moderator of the event (+streamer) has showed some replays on the stream with 3k viewers at the time, it's was blattant that he maphacks. | ||
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