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SeXyBaCk
Switzerland174 Posts
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On August 13 2013 22:05 SeXyBaCk wrote: I just played imbatoss on sunday and cordially asked him in german why he maphacked. He didn't admit to, but he didn't deny to either. I told him it's all over the web, his reputation, why he doesn't make a public statement about it. He basically laughed it all off. Did you watch the replay ? Any proof of something ? | ||
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SEEDPrebs
Norway30 Posts
Name: [supr]Lumen Race: Zerg Server: EU League: Master Things that are suspicious but not proof: First of all completely blind countering my build without scouting anything. When my banelings are about to go up his ramp, he send his own banelings EXACTLY to where my banes were right before actually seeing them. He hasn't seen a single ling or baneling beforehand. I haven't watched the replay THAT carefully but another very suspicious moment is when @10:45 he hides his banelings in the bush and right when i'm about to pass by he has the banes perfectly positioned to snipe my lings (again without seeing them at all) Overall just a very shady game, and I hope you can find some proof! http://drop.sc/354200 | ||
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
Race: Protoss Server: NA League: Master Bazinga, very blatant maphacking, does not try to hide. No scouts, very hard counter builds with the throwing down of second gate and chrono zealots waiting for incoming attack, immediately goes to all proxy pylons, etc. Always knows when to do what. Replay here is a slam dunk. http://drop.sc/354217 | ||
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SCII-ALI
28 Posts
On August 15 2013 08:22 -Prebs- wrote: Hello everyone. I haven't found anything that can prove he's hacking, but hopefully you'll be able to! Name: [supr]Lumen Race: Zerg Server: EU League: Master Things that are suspicious but not proof: First of all completely blind countering my build without scouting anything. When my banelings are about to go up his ramp, he send his own banelings EXACTLY to where my banes were right before actually seeing them. He hasn't seen a single ling or baneling beforehand. I haven't watched the replay THAT carefully but another very suspicious moment is when @10:45 he hides his banelings in the bush and right when i'm about to pass by he has the banes perfectly positioned to snipe my lings (again without seeing them at all) Overall just a very shady game, and I hope you can find some proof! http://drop.sc/354200 I would say this is enough proof as it is. I watched replay, and those things are the only things that really stood out for me, besides him being really really really terrible at scouting. He doesn't move into your base once. He sees nothing the entire game, yet counters it perfectly. | ||
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heaveshade
China330 Posts
On August 15 2013 08:22 -Prebs- wrote: Hello everyone. I haven't found anything that can prove he's hacking, but hopefully you'll be able to! Name: [supr]Lumen Race: Zerg Server: EU League: Master Things that are suspicious but not proof: First of all completely blind countering my build without scouting anything. When my banelings are about to go up his ramp, he send his own banelings EXACTLY to where my banes were right before actually seeing them. He hasn't seen a single ling or baneling beforehand. I haven't watched the replay THAT carefully but another very suspicious moment is when @10:45 he hides his banelings in the bush and right when i'm about to pass by he has the banes perfectly positioned to snipe my lings (again without seeing them at all) Overall just a very shady game, and I hope you can find some proof! http://drop.sc/354200 I'm not sure, is it possible to larva inject and select different kinds of units without hot key in 1 fps? ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/q3QXHLP.jpg) and earlier on, there are two larva inject commands in 1 fps. Well, he end up injecting one base at the time. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/OmLOOgN.jpg) | ||
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DivinesiaTV
Finland58 Posts
On August 15 2013 08:22 -Prebs- wrote: Hello everyone. I haven't found anything that can prove he's hacking, but hopefully you'll be able to! Name: [supr]Lumen Race: Zerg Server: EU League: Master Things that are suspicious but not proof: First of all completely blind countering my build without scouting anything. When my banelings are about to go up his ramp, he send his own banelings EXACTLY to where my banes were right before actually seeing them. He hasn't seen a single ling or baneling beforehand. I haven't watched the replay THAT carefully but another very suspicious moment is when @10:45 he hides his banelings in the bush and right when i'm about to pass by he has the banes perfectly positioned to snipe my lings (again without seeing them at all) Overall just a very shady game, and I hope you can find some proof! http://drop.sc/354200 Hi, I watched the replay like 10 times with other clanmates and we found 2-3 awkward moments from the replays which you pointed out but one thing: In the beginning he actually was clicking those banelings in to wrong direction and didnt move them to in place before seeing you. I have to admit that reaction timing is insane, but it DID NOT come before you we`re revealed. So your point that he moved them before seeing your attack, is false. 11:18 Lumen lost like 20 lings to 2 banes in your third. Mh? For whom? I`m not saying this aint maphack, this is suspicious game, but this game alone doesnt prove Lumen is using maphack. I hope people will test more and can tell more about the games that are made in this game. Lack of scouting was suspicious and those 4 banes in the xel naga also. | ||
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Sc2HDB
Bahamas64 Posts
[18180] - [MinimapClick] Spawn Larva (Queen); target: Hatchery (10358); target: x=178.50, y=53.50 [18180] - [18180] - Spawn Larva (Queen); target: Hatchery (10358); target: x=178.50, y=53.50 [27260] - Hotkey Select 0 [27260] - [MinimapClick] Spawn Larva (Queen); target: Hatchery (103c8); target: x=146.50, y=50.50 [27260] - Select Hatchery (103c8), Deselect all [30108] - Hotkey Select 0 [30108] - [MinimapClick] Spawn Larva (Queen); target: Hatchery (103c8); target: x=146.50, y=50.50 [30108] - Select Baneling (5045c), Deselect all [30704] - Hotkey Select 0 [30704] - [MinimapClick] Spawn Larva (Queen); target: Hatchery (10358); target: x=178.50, y=53.50 [30704] - Select Baneling (5045c), Deselect all [35868] - [MinimapClick] Spawn Larva (Queen); target: Hatchery (10358); target: x=178.50, y=53.50 [35868] - Select Baneling x4 (60494, 70498, 40534, 205ec), Baneling Cocoon (30584), Deselect all [35868] - Right click; target: x=115.40, y=55.87 [38300] - [MinimapClick] Spawn Larva (Queen); target: Hatchery (103c8); target: x=146.50, y=50.50 [38300] - Select Baneling x4 (60494, 40534, 205ec, 10604), Deselect all [38300] - Right click; target: x=127.52, y=65.80 [47064] - Hotkey Select 0 [47064] - [MinimapClick] Spawn Larva (Queen); target: Hatchery (103c8); target: x=146.50, y=50.50 [47064] - Select Zergling x10 (d0430, 105b0, 405f0, 20608, 2060c, 10620, 30650, 40664, 30680, 206b0), Deselect all [48192] - [MinimapClick] Spawn Larva (Queen); target: Lair (10358); target: x=178.50, y=53.50 [48192] - Select Mutalisk x8 (604b0, 804e4, c0544, 8057c, 50604, 30610, 60618, 20648), Deselect all [48192] - Select Baneling x2 (3061c, 6065c), Deselect all Until the end... I don't know why blizzard don't put a detection tool for automation since it's the easy part of detecting a cheater. | ||
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DivinesiaTV
Finland58 Posts
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Mayhemia-
Finland58 Posts
On August 05 2013 05:27 AcieDeucie wrote: Hackername: [NrS]LionHeart Server: EU League: Master Profile: http://www.sc2ranks.com/character/eu/245593/LionHeart/hots/1v1 Link to the replay: http://drop.sc/352984 I have more on the same person. http://drop.sc/354364 Description: - No scout at all - 6:40 He selects mothership core and expects the marines to come in sight, then he right away does PO. Just look at his camera. Not normal. - First unit to cross my side of the map is Warp prism @ 8 minutes - 12:20 moves his whole army to intercept my drop @ third without slightest vision of anything - 18:00 between 20:00 look at his army movement in relation to my army movement, without vision. Yeah, he's a hacker most likely. At least can't explain those moves when coupled with the rest of the field who think he hacks. Also he accuses me of maphacking all game long. So, there's that as well.  | ||
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washikie
United States752 Posts
server: NA league:diamond link to replay: http://drop.sc/354366 Player does not scout then reacts to 8-8-8 with 2 rax and a bunker at ramp without scout player than without scout puts marines in exact place were repers are coming and throws a bunker that would only help against reapers before seeing reapers or 8-8-8. | ||
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Wade76
3 Posts
Here we go: Name: Bakadi (protoss). Server: EU. League: Gold. Description: I decided to proxy-fac (I'm terran) him with the advantage of the crossmap-position. My surprise watching replay was his zealot with spider sense going direct for the fac in construction. He never see the SCV exiting his base for a proxy. Here's the link to the replay: http://drop.sc/354367 PD: I dont know if only master//GM hackers were reported at this post so ifI posted wrongly excue me  | ||
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Nyast
Belgium554 Posts
On August 16 2013 03:07 Mayhemia- wrote: I have more on the same person. http://drop.sc/354364 Description: - No scout at all - 6:40 He selects mothership core and expects the marines to come in sight, then he right away does PO. Just look at his camera. Not normal. - First unit to cross my side of the map is Warp prism @ 8 minutes - 12:20 moves his whole army to intercept my drop @ third without slightest vision of anything - 18:00 between 20:00 look at his army movement in relation to my army movement, without vision. Yeah, he's a hacker most likely. At least can't explain those moves when coupled with the rest of the field who think he hacks. Also he accuses me of maphacking all game long. So, there's that as well. More proof on [NrS]LionHeart: http://drop.sc/354369 I remembered this thread, so I decided to go for a very agressive build to see how he'd react. Here are the results: - 5'15: chronoes a stalker without scouting that I'm arriving with 2 zealots and 2 stalkers. It makes no sense to go for a 3 gate build and to suddenly chrono a stalker in the middle of it like that. - 5'25: his camera jumps at my army at his natural right before he has vision of it. He has his army already pre-selected too. If it was an isolated incident it could have been a coincidence, but in the light of the 2 previous posters, I have no doubt he's indeed hacking. | ||
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Wormi
Germany181 Posts
On August 16 2013 03:07 Mayhemia- wrote: I have more on the same person. http://drop.sc/354364 Description: - No scout at all - 6:40 He selects mothership core and expects the marines to come in sight, then he right away does PO. Just look at his camera. Not normal. - First unit to cross my side of the map is Warp prism @ 8 minutes - 12:20 moves his whole army to intercept my drop @ third without slightest vision of anything - 18:00 between 20:00 look at his army movement in relation to my army movement, without vision. Yeah, he's a hacker most likely. At least can't explain those moves when coupled with the rest of the field who think he hacks. Also he accuses me of maphacking all game long. So, there's that as well. to me it looks like 2 maphackers were fighting each other. met lionheart today on ladder. told him to turn of mh. got hardcountered. :-D | ||
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Centrinium
Brazil1 Post
Server: AM League: Gold SC2 Profile: http://us.battle.net/sc2/pt/profile/4239507/1/IIIIIIIIII/ Description: We played in 4 start spot map and he knew exactly where my base was and tried a 2-gate rush. When I saw the replay I noticed that when my probe was scouting, he hid his probe before see mine, and when his probe was out of my vision, his probe continued the path. This can be seen in 0:50. In 2:20 he knew exactly where my pylon was, and when the pylon finished he selected all probes and went exactly where my proxy pylon was, without scouting before. And in 10:58 he points his camera for "nowhere". But my DTs was there exactly where he put his camera. There is no doubt that he is a hacker. Replay: http://drop.sc/354368 | ||
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coldscars
Germany141 Posts
On August 16 2013 04:10 Wormi wrote: to me it looks like 2 maphackers were fighting each other. met lionheart today on ladder. told him to turn of mh. got hardcountered. :-D played lionheart few days ago, i smashed him pretty hard with wm drops into 2base pressure, didnt look like he knew anything would be coming | ||
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Mayhemia-
Finland58 Posts
On August 16 2013 04:10 Wormi wrote: to me it looks like 2 maphackers were fighting each other. met lionheart today on ladder. told him to turn of mh. got hardcountered. :-D Yeeea, well I'm gonna run with benefit of doubt since I'm not stupid enough to report hacker if I'm hacking myself. | ||
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On August 15 2013 11:45 FabledIntegral wrote: Name: Bazinga Race: Protoss Server: NA League: Master Bazinga, very blatant maphacking, does not try to hide. No scouts, very hard counter builds with the throwing down of second gate and chrono zealots waiting for incoming attack, immediately goes to all proxy pylons, etc. Always knows when to do what. Replay here is a slam dunk. http://drop.sc/354217 Haven't seen your replay, but I just played (and beat haha) this guy and I'm 99% sure he was maphacking. Pretty much everything you described happened in my game. Luckily he sucked really badly and lost fights any ways  .http://drop.sc/354410 | ||
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LtCalley
United States244 Posts
On August 13 2013 22:00 nAnO! wrote: lol Specialist fuck off that is the dumbest thing i ever heard.. we just have to confront them at offline tournaments with that shit, to show them that this should be one of the top goals in blizzs TO-DO list. i never saw an interview in which blizz team members commented about the hackers in sc2. Just remember if e.g David Kim has to give an Interview in front of thousands of people (on stream) and can't give appropriate reasons why for example a maphacker is #1 GM EU they will see that they have to invest much more work into this sector if they dont know already didn't a maphacker make top 16 on na ladder and almost got invited to i think it was blizzcon or something? i think that's much much worse than a hacker being #1 gm although it's still really bad. | ||
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Cloudshade
91 Posts
Server: NA League: GM Description: 2 evidences of him hacking....He was in GGK, but once we found out he was hacking we took the initiative to remove him from the clan. This first evidence we have of him hacking in combination of this picture http://puu.sh/3TuS5.jpg and the following replay http://drop.sc/354412 This replay shows him constantly looking in the fog of war for tech/cannon rushes/expos and many more....pretty obvious.... http://drop.sc/354413 This replay, he sends his DTs all the way across the map together in a bunch without scouting the opponents base for detection (sends the DTs to the farthest base that has no detection) and he doesn't split them at all (which is what normally protoss players would do) | ||
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