Official Real Talk Thread of Realness - Page 38

On June 24 2012 17:16 rorr wrote:
Real Talk: Athene

On June 24 2012 15:59 SimDawg wrote:
There really aren't words for how much I love this series. I have a love/hate relationship with a lot of what TB says but it really never fails to be interesting or controversial.

That in-game sponsorship logos are really just genius. That's going to become an industry standard, I'm sure of it.

On June 24 2012 18:01 svefnleysi wrote:

In-game sponsorship logos were the standard back in WarCraft 3. You'd have to download a dozen different versions of the same map to watch replays. And back then you had to go look for them online - no auto b.net download.

On June 25 2012 00:08 Duravi wrote:
Is there some reason you can't upload an mp3? I can convert it myself, but its kind of silly to force everyone to do that instead of you just doing it once and everyone being able to download that.

On June 25 2012 00:12 sansalvador wrote:

Are you in the wrong thread... maybe? ^^

On June 24 2012 16:32 Dosey wrote:

Do you people have selective memory or what? So far he's had a coach, three players, scheduled another player who backed out while insulting everyone, and 5 casters (I don't really consider 2GD and WheAt simply casters but for arguments sake I'll put them up there). Need I also remind you that most of the casters were requested? People just assumed that Artosis would say no and keep info private for his bio, and that Tasteless would say no because he's Tasteless. JP has kept a great balance and has also listened to the suggestions by the community as a whole.

It's not like there is an overflow of interesting english speaking players to interview either... And although I'm sure guys like MC would absolutely love to come on the show, language barriers in a 1 on 1 interview might make things a bit to difficult.

On June 25 2012 00:55 Strabismus wrote:



Idra and InControL are already really exposed players though, nevertheless I've liked every interview he's done so far. This kind of ties in to the next thing ...


I'm glad TB has called out the EG training house. I agreed with InControL's early statements and defense when it was people grilled 1 or 2 months after it was established, it was too early for the house to have much affect on results or player performance. But we're fast approaching a year and EG really isn't doing well in terms of results - at all. All-killed by Sheth? An actual DECLINE in overall EG performences. I really want to see EG do well because along with Liquid I see them as the forerunner teams on the foreigner scene, and they are still my favourite team, but that team house seems like a joke.


Korean supremacy in StarCraft 2 isn't inate. It isn't a genetic part of their being. They work extremely fucking hard to get where they are. Of course there are people with a more natural disposition and talent towards the game, but in general, there is no difference between foreigners and koreans. I watch a lot of EG streams and the amount of bloody rubbish that seems to go on in that house ... I imagine there will be a response to this on SotG or by some EG pros. I think Idra will agree, and I think HuK will agree. I think InControL will probably try and defend EG. But they are essentially a PR team for an energy drink at this point. If they can survive off this and continue to be a part of eSports, good for them, but I'd really like to see some more legitimate results start to reappear, at least for the top players. Like Ret said in Liquid Rising, he wants this year to be a year of results, and not a year of talent. I don't think the EG house should become a sweatshop of SC2 like old school BW Korean houses, but they definitely need to consolidate their players in there and put some damn work in.


Enough time has gone by, the EG house needs to be scrutinised. There's too much PR and baseless hype and not enough substance in terms of quality SC2 play.


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I also like what he says about Day9. I've actually found myself feeling genuinely sorry for Sean lately when I hear about all this rubbish being flung his way. Not long ago he was untouchable in terms of criticism and THAT is how it should be all the time. Day9 is a human being and obviously has flaws like everyone else, but in terms of what is relevent to us as a community, and in terms of what he has contributed to eSports and how he represents himself, he has done NOTHING wrong and we are incredibly lucky someone was talented, funny, hard-working and genuine has decided to contribute so much themself to building eSports. Day9 has never made a single mistake that has had any negative impact on us as a community, despite being such an influential figure, yet he's receiving senseless critisism?


This horrible, cancerous point of view founded on jealousy and spitfulness that seems to try and deconstruct such an incredible part of the SC2 scene (and the very reason I got into SC2 eSports in the first place) really, really depresses me. I hope this rancid shit that seems to be going around about Sean just stops and I really hope it never bothers him or stops him from doing what he wants to do.

On June 25 2012 00:55 Strabismus wrote:



Idra and InControL are already really exposed players though, nevertheless I've liked every interview he's done so far. This kind of ties in to the next thing ...


I'm glad TB has called out the EG training house. I agreed with InControL's early statements and defense when it was people grilled 1 or 2 months after it was established, it was too early for the house to have much affect on results or player performance. But we're fast approaching a year and EG really isn't doing well in terms of results - at all. All-killed by Sheth? An actual DECLINE in overall EG performences. I really want to see EG do well because along with Liquid I see them as the forerunner teams on the foreigner scene, and they are still my favourite team, but that team house seems like a joke.


Korean supremacy in StarCraft 2 isn't inate. It isn't a genetic part of their being. They work extremely fucking hard to get where they are. Of course there are people with a more natural disposition and talent towards the game, but in general, there is no difference between foreigners and koreans. I watch a lot of EG streams and the amount of bloody rubbish that seems to go on in that house ... I imagine there will be a response to this on SotG or by some EG pros. I think Idra will agree, and I think HuK will agree. I think InControL will probably try and defend EG. But they are essentially a PR team for an energy drink at this point. If they can survive off this and continue to be a part of eSports, good for them, but I'd really like to see some more legitimate results start to reappear, at least for the top players. Like Ret said in Liquid Rising, he wants this year to be a year of results, and not a year of talent. I don't think the EG house should become a sweatshop of SC2 like old school BW Korean houses, but they definitely need to consolidate their players in there and put some damn work in.


Enough time has gone by, the EG house needs to be scrutinised. There's too much PR and baseless hype and not enough substance in terms of quality SC2 play.


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I also like what he says about Day9. I've actually found myself feeling genuinely sorry for Sean lately when I hear about all this rubbish being flung his way. Not long ago he was untouchable in terms of criticism and THAT is how it should be all the time. Day9 is a human being and obviously has flaws like everyone else, but in terms of what is relevent to us as a community, and in terms of what he has contributed to eSports and how he represents himself, he has done NOTHING wrong and we are incredibly lucky someone was talented, funny, hard-working and genuine has decided to contribute so much themself to building eSports. Day9 has never made a single mistake that has had any negative impact on us as a community, despite being such an influential figure, yet he's receiving senseless critisism?


This horrible, cancerous point of view founded on jealousy and spitfulness that seems to try and deconstruct such an incredible part of the SC2 scene (and the very reason I got into SC2 eSports in the first place) really, really depresses me. I hope this rancid shit that seems to be going around about Sean just stops and I really hope it never bothers him or stops him from doing what he wants to do.

On June 25 2012 01:25 Strabismus wrote:
@duravi & darthfoley


Proper, constructive critisism is all well and good of course, and if you don't like his casting that's fine. I'm talking about the specific, blatant rubbish like the stuff 2GD came out with (which was a pre-emptive retaliation if Day9 left the scene or some crap) and the critisism about how he seems to be making out he's not earning money or that he's struggling to make a living (which isn't the case either).


Critisise people - that's fine fine. As long as it makes some kind of sense. And I don't think anyone in their right mind would claim that Day9 has done more bad than good.