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On May 13 2012 10:04 Rkynick wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2012 09:56 KrazyTrumpet wrote:On May 13 2012 09:56 Zorgaz wrote:
I just want a custom game list like in wc3 where you can see all the games that are hosted......
Other stuff seems okay i guess I still don't see why people want this...it was a god damn terrible system and I am glad it didn't come back. In the current system, it is nigh impossible to get a custom map played if it is not on the first 3 pages of the popular games list. You can thus understand why people want the game list system back, as map creators wouldn't mind being able to actually play the map they spent so long working on. + Show Spoiler +(As a point of reference, with the popular games system SC2 has I've only been able to play my custom map 3 or 4 times with half of a full house in the year or so since I made it. In BW, I made several custom maps and was able to get them all played dozens of times with full houses. You can, I hope, understand why it frustrates me to spend 20 hours building a custom map and then not ever get to see it in action because of the popular games system)
maybe a recently created lobby map list ?
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On May 13 2012 10:02 Zorgaz wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2012 09:56 KrazyTrumpet wrote:On May 13 2012 09:56 Zorgaz wrote:
I just want a custom game list like in wc3 where you can see all the games that are hosted......
Other stuff seems okay i guess I still don't see why people want this...it was a god damn terrible system and I am glad it didn't come back. What if i want to play a map that isn't ''popular''. If i don't have a couple of buddies to play it with then i can't play it =/. The wc3 system was much better in that regard
I'll add a personal anecdote to your point.
There was a game called "Are you a retard?" In warcraft 3. Regardless of all the intolerance in the name, the game was basically a series of obstacles that needed a few friends. It was fun, engaging, and had secrets that could only really be discovered by veterans passing it on to the new players. I hosted it for 8 days, and everyday I would have the best conversations, do something really cool in the game, and stuff like that. On the 8th day, I got people I had added on my friends list from previous days together and played it. We beat it! Gosh it's so hard. But yeah, Sc2 doesn't quite have this, though that "Run Zergling Run" game that floats from the 3rd-10th page is pretty good.
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Does anyone else miss being able to "create" a custom map and giving it its own title like back in broodwar? Is there something WRONG with that formula? Now that every game is automatched.. it just doesnt feel the same. You can't say "rm same name" to people anymore when youre playing a good map with a good group of guys.
Also wheres all the good TD maps?
basically I miss broodwar 
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What does it mean by "Starcraft II is now a streaming game?"
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On May 13 2012 10:02 Zorgaz wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2012 09:56 KrazyTrumpet wrote:On May 13 2012 09:56 Zorgaz wrote:
I just want a custom game list like in wc3 where you can see all the games that are hosted......
Other stuff seems okay i guess I still don't see why people want this...it was a god damn terrible system and I am glad it didn't come back. What if i want to play a map that isn't ''popular''. If i don't have a couple of buddies to play it with then i can't play it =/. The wc3 system was much better in that regard
lol it's not at all, wc3 popular years were dominated by maps like island defense, dota, various mauls, the sheep wolves one etc very few maps could be made and plaid outside of that unless you joined special channels and found groups, at least with sc2 system it pools all available people to fill the desired map. This was made much worse then game bots were introduced, maps outside of popular maps were pretty much impossible to fill. and the screen was filled with shiz like DoTa GG.net-apcm etc
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On May 13 2012 10:13 Gamegene wrote:
What does it mean by "Starcraft II is now a streaming game?"
Just like WoW and D3, you are now able to play SC2 while still downloading the client itself.
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On May 13 2012 10:13 Gamegene wrote:
What does it mean by "Starcraft II is now a streaming game?"
It's been answered about 7 times, read the thread -_-
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On May 13 2012 10:17 semantics wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2012 10:02 Zorgaz wrote:On May 13 2012 09:56 KrazyTrumpet wrote:On May 13 2012 09:56 Zorgaz wrote:
I just want a custom game list like in wc3 where you can see all the games that are hosted......
Other stuff seems okay i guess I still don't see why people want this...it was a god damn terrible system and I am glad it didn't come back. What if i want to play a map that isn't ''popular''. If i don't have a couple of buddies to play it with then i can't play it =/. The wc3 system was much better in that regard lol it's not at all, wc3 popular years were dominated by maps like island defense, dota, various mauls, the sheep wolves one etc very few maps could be made and plaid outside of that unless you joined special channels and found groups, at least with sc2 system it pools all available people to fill the desired map. This was made much worse then game bots were introduced, maps outside of popular maps were pretty much impossible to fill. and the screen was filled with shiz like DoTa GG.net-apcm etc
If you could host (as I could) you could basically get any map you wanted played in wc3 (in my long, long experience), and so I have to disagree with you. My hundreds (as my old xfire account can attest to) of hours in WC3 say otherwise.
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On May 13 2012 10:17 semantics wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2012 10:02 Zorgaz wrote:On May 13 2012 09:56 KrazyTrumpet wrote:On May 13 2012 09:56 Zorgaz wrote:
I just want a custom game list like in wc3 where you can see all the games that are hosted......
Other stuff seems okay i guess I still don't see why people want this...it was a god damn terrible system and I am glad it didn't come back. What if i want to play a map that isn't ''popular''. If i don't have a couple of buddies to play it with then i can't play it =/. The wc3 system was much better in that regard lol it's not at all, wc3 popular years were dominated by maps like island defense, dota, various mauls, the sheep wolves one etc very few maps could be made and plaid outside of that unless you joined special channels and found groups, at least with sc2 system it pools all available people to fill the desired map. This was made much worse then game bots were introduced, maps outside of popular maps were pretty much impossible to fill. and the screen was filled with shiz like DoTa GG.net-apcm etc
This, I don´t know if people played another version of W3 or BW but it was like you said, popular maps would usually bury less known maps in the old system. Especially since later in the life of those games bots started hosting maps.DotA oh god DotA filled the custom games list
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damn, can't they get rid of tychus's face? So obnoxious mang
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On May 13 2012 07:09 MorroW wrote:
"StarCraft II is now a streaming game.
o It will only be necessary to download a fraction of game data to get into the action. We expect to bring even more players into StarCraft II worldwide by making access to the game both easy and fast.
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could someone explain to me what this is? is it what i think it is?
It means that you will be able to play the game w/o having it fully installed similar to d3 or WOW. When the game discovers it needs an asset it will DL it on the spot. Now obviously it won't be like ohhh I just mad ea marine let me get that now. Many things will still need to be loaded before you start playing. It will just make it faster if you have to reinstall or install for the first time.
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On May 13 2012 10:12 spectreusmc wrote:Does anyone else miss being able to "create" a custom map and giving it its own title like back in broodwar? Is there something WRONG with that formula? Now that every game is automatched.. it just doesnt feel the same. You can't say "rm same name" to people anymore when youre playing a good map with a good group of guys. Also wheres all the good TD maps? basically I miss broodwar
You can always friend them and try to party. The party should be allowed to accept more than 6 people though. However I agree it is a somewhat more of a hassel
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They should incorporate a streams into a section, for big tournaments (like the one announced by Blizzard) :O
That should help get more interest in Starcraft 2 Tournaments, when theres more accessibility for people.
Dunno how hard that will be though.
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The streaming is... interesting, I started it as soon as it hit playable, but then it made me wait for a little while longer.
I couldn't launch anything, but then I played a single campaign mission and quit back out and I was able to go into stuff, but for an arcade map, you get the normal downloading animation as you do currently, then a Streaming Data animation, then on the loading screen you'll have a downloading progress bar and then once you're IN the game, you have another red icon that indicates that data is still streaming while you're playing.
It says it's playable at 3.46 GB, but It doesn't feel like I downloaded anywhere close to that much.
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Has blizzard confirmed the existence of these emails?
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it would be nice if they could add a little note next to friends' names that says if they're in a bnet game or custom game and what the name of the game is, i miss that
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So did anyone else see this, think they FINALLY got chat right, only to find out it was something for this Arcade junk? Seriously disappointed myself there.. I should never expect to see the things we want by now.
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What bothers me is that the two things that people want most out of the UI (proper chat channels and WC3 custom lobby system) are also the two things that Blizzard is absolutely hell-bent on NOT putting into the game.
I mean really, they could take that giant picture of Tychus' mug and turn it into a big chat channel that people can hang out in. And the custom game system really needs to go back to the way it was in older games. Literally the only thing the WC3 custom game UI needed was a way to filter out unwanted maps. I'll take a simple yet elegant solution over whatever convoluted crap Blizzard is doing anyday.
The bright side is that a lot of the improvements we ARE getting are nice, but the lack of those two heavily requested features dampers a lot of my excitement.
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All screenshots shown below are at the highest graphic settings.
Patch 1.5.0
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As you can see by this first image above, you get the cool black creep now.
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I'm also loving the new lighting, as seen in this screenshot. Fog of war so sexy.
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Also a possible severe balance issue. You can no longer Fungal Growth anywhere you want. You must now target a unit, it can be your own as well. (FG wont hurt your units of course)
The problem here is that now you can't Fungal undetected invisible units anymore. This could be very bad, because sometimes zerg relies on fungals when Overseers fail them.
EDIT: Major and I mean MAJOR balance changes to the Infestor have been made.
-Infestors now start with Neural Parasite no upgrade anymore (range 7 still) and the 15s time limit has been removed. Now you can keep that unit forever.
-Infestors can no longer shoot infested terrans while burrowed. HUGE
-Infestor move speed while burrowed is now INSANELY SLOW. Move speed is 1, almost as slow as a Queen off creep.
And when burrowed on creep is 1.3, still very slow.
-Infested Terrans now only last 20 seconds (down from 30s). They now move much faster. Move speed is now 1.5 off creep and 1.95 on creep!
Also ultralisk changes
-No frenzied
-60 dmg building ram attack
-18 dmg to units, no armor bonus atk
-600hp (instead of 500)
-2.25 move speed (2.92 on creep) slower than current build
On the plus side, range indicators (like the ones for siege tanks) are now shown. It's also shown when you use transfuse on Queens. I don't think creep tumors had it though. :\
Note: First two screenshots had AA on. 3rd screenshot had AA off. The graphics are notably better with anti-aliasing off.
Note Note: If anyone wants me to show something specific that they're curious about, just ask! :D
Note Note Note: Not sure but those balance changes do seem legit, as I checked them in game. Infested Terrans were never that fast, it must have been a conscious change. Also the really slow Infestor move speed is excruciating.
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Is UI functionality actually going to change in this patch? It looks like the exact same custom lobby as before except now games have pictures like the app store?
As far as I can see the arcade does not actually solve any problems? Games are still organized page by page by popularity... games on the first page will still get played, games on the last page will still never get played?
EDIT : Can I kick people from games I host yet? Every time I'm about to play mafia and there's some guy spamming ethnic slanders I sort of wish there was SOMETHING that could be done about it?
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