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On May 11 2012 18:22 Koshi wrote: I wonder if the scII games from the BW pros will be different styles, because I wont be too interested to see worse executions of current builds.
I hope so, too. But it seems that the current BW are not training with SC2 teams because of that reason (BO leakage). One can only hope that it means some new Builds
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On May 11 2012 18:25 Sea_Food wrote: Im pretty sure that in 2010 there was a bw turney in california with flash, jaedong ad a ton of forgeiners. Also WCG was in USA.
Why mustMLG lie to us?
why do you care about miniscule details?
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On May 11 2012 18:12 Waxangel wrote:
This MOU with MLG will be the first step for Korean pro-gamers to compete more actively on the international stage, and some of the best Korean pro-gamers will participate at MLG Spring Championship in Anaheim between June 6th and June 8th and play in Starcraft II matches.
Isn't MLG starting like on June 9 (Based on MLG announcement)?
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On May 11 2012 18:15 Dodgin wrote: -International Esports Group
The who?
Anyway that says " first step " and no mention of exclusivity so I'll stay optimistic.
IEG, the company that bought BW broadcasting rights from KeSPA and sold to OGN & MBC for $1.5 mil back in 2007.
Also known as 'we-don't-give-****-about-copyright' company.
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On May 11 2012 18:30 NHY wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2012 18:15 Dodgin wrote: -International Esports Group
The who?
Anyway that says " first step " and no mention of exclusivity so I'll stay optimistic. IEG, the company that bought BW broadcasting rights from KeSPA and sold to OGN & MBC for $1.5 mil back in 2007. Also known as 'we-don't-give-****-about-copyright' company.
Ah okay, thanks. I thought there was some new international e-sports organization that no one was talking about or something.
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On May 11 2012 18:25 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2012 18:18 Irave wrote:On May 11 2012 18:10 Dodgin wrote:On May 11 2012 18:07 StriderDoom wrote: im glad for esports if this all works out but, if leagues like the GSL, NASL, etc start to go under because of stuff like this im going to be so bummed GSL is too big to fall at this point, It's IPL/NASL/DH/IEM that should be worried. Have to disagree, this will really puts more pressure on GOM than the others. SC2 doesn't seem massive in Korea. The BW legends making the transition might boost it, and well Kespa has them. The others you stated, have easy access to foreigners. The Koreans that have attended those will likely continue doing so. That is unless MLG really wants to choke out competition and plan things during IPL etc. GOM's success does not depend on Korea though. They have ( apparently ) tens of thousands of GSL subscribers that pay for their product and are loyal to them because they were the first Korean sc2 league, they are also in the black this year according to FXOboss' blog. You really overestimate how many people would want to watch untested BW pros play sc2 after the novelty has worn off. Compared to current sc2 legends like mvp,nestea,mc,marineking,drg they aren't popular other than Flash because he's all over Reddit all day, Bisu kind of as well but mostly Flash. If the BW legends' first sc2 games disappoint and if they continue to disappoint compared to the quality of games in the GSL ( Which they most likely will because they are new to the game and have to practice sc1 at the same time ) the hype will die fast. How can you use the word "sc2 legends" when the game isn't even 2 years old yet?
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On May 11 2012 18:30 Frankon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2012 18:12 Waxangel wrote:
This MOU with MLG will be the first step for Korean pro-gamers to compete more actively on the international stage, and some of the best Korean pro-gamers will participate at MLG Spring Championship in Anaheim between June 6th and June 8th and play in Starcraft II matches.
Isn't MLG starting like on June 9 (Based on MLG announcement)?
June 8 friday
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On May 11 2012 18:31 Gosi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2012 18:25 Dodgin wrote:On May 11 2012 18:18 Irave wrote:On May 11 2012 18:10 Dodgin wrote:On May 11 2012 18:07 StriderDoom wrote: im glad for esports if this all works out but, if leagues like the GSL, NASL, etc start to go under because of stuff like this im going to be so bummed GSL is too big to fall at this point, It's IPL/NASL/DH/IEM that should be worried. Have to disagree, this will really puts more pressure on GOM than the others. SC2 doesn't seem massive in Korea. The BW legends making the transition might boost it, and well Kespa has them. The others you stated, have easy access to foreigners. The Koreans that have attended those will likely continue doing so. That is unless MLG really wants to choke out competition and plan things during IPL etc. GOM's success does not depend on Korea though. They have ( apparently ) tens of thousands of GSL subscribers that pay for their product and are loyal to them because they were the first Korean sc2 league, they are also in the black this year according to FXOboss' blog. You really overestimate how many people would want to watch untested BW pros play sc2 after the novelty has worn off. Compared to current sc2 legends like mvp,nestea,mc,marineking,drg they aren't popular other than Flash because he's all over Reddit all day, Bisu kind of as well but mostly Flash. If the BW legends' first sc2 games disappoint and if they continue to disappoint compared to the quality of games in the GSL ( Which they most likely will because they are new to the game and have to practice sc1 at the same time ) the hype will die fast. How can you use the word "sc2 legends" when the game isn't even 2 years old yet?
...Because they are the most successful and popular players in sc2, no need to get upset over a choice of words.
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If the only place to see BW Pro's stateside is MLG due to exclusivity, I'll be glad D3 will be taking a good chunk of my time for at least a couple of years. Not something I'm going to support and not something I want to be around for. Yes it's a business and I as a consumer/fan can disagree with it and not support it. I'd rather the SC2 scene implode than fracture it like this. This was always going to be the natural progression though since MLG is doing the PPV thing. You need to have an "exclusive" product for PPV to really have a draw. Expect BW Pro tournies at Arena.
Why compete head to head with other events for the players attention/participation when you can just sign contracts and deny the other events to players. Then when the other events don't have enough "high profile" players they get less viewership and attendance and then subsequently implode. Leaving MLG to have a monopoly. Also be afraid because the Kespa teams WILL buy the current successful SC2 pro's, especially if it takes the BW Pro's awhile to get accustomed to "high-level"(I hate that term) SC2. Kespa teams WANT to have the best playing for them and they will get the best. It'd be interesting to know exactly how much input the BW Pro's in this "exclusivity" deal.
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On May 11 2012 18:25 Sea_Food wrote: Im pretty sure that in 2010 there was a bw turney in california with flash, jaedong ad a ton of forgeiners. Also WCG was in USA.
Why mustMLG lie to us?
Its called hype my friend...and MLG wants to sell you a $14.99 pass to experience it. I was not aware of the Cali tournament you mention but I don't doubt it...
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I highly doubt it's as cut-throat as you think it is, Hrrrrm.
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Can't help but feel Gomtv got royally fucked in the ass for this one. A bigger league shows up and just like that MLG has dropped the old for the new. Even though gomtv played a big part in legitimizing the early MLGs (without the Code S seed they would only be $5000 tourneys). But meh, totally fair game in the business world.
I sure hope Gomtv manages to survive. I feel like they are the company that made the biggest sacrifices for e-sports. Sometimes I really wonder how they stay afloat (let alone make profit) when they give out ungodly prizes, fly and house foreigners from across the world, hire kpop girls to interact with players, not to mention they broadcast daily so they have to basically pay their whole production crew full time (compared to all other event-based tournaments).
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Awesome news! Can't wait to see the BW pros at Anaheim!
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Pls let this be free
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Huge expected partnership ...
So many unanswered questions though :/
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1. Awesome!
2. marking the first time in eSports history that KeSPA players will participate in video game tournaments in the United States.
This is simply not true. I get that you announce announcements of announcements of announcements on twitter but this isn't really necessary is it?
3. an exclusive multi-year global partnership that will bridge the Western and Korean StarCraft worlds
I hope and assume exclusive is not actually exclusive. Would be sad to see Kespa players only in MLG events.
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As long as mlg doesnt have to sell out its soul to kespa players and shun the current crop of GSL players, this is fantastic news. Might finally get to see if flash is any good at sc2 :D
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not sure what to think about this yet
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On May 11 2012 18:39 W2 wrote: Can't help but feel Gomtv got royally fucked in the ass for this one. A bigger league shows up and just like that MLG has dropped the old for the new. Even though gomtv played a big part in legitimizing the early MLGs (without the Code S seed they would only be $5000 tourneys). But meh, totally fair game in the business world.
I sure hope Gomtv manages to survive. I feel like they are the company that made the biggest sacrifices for e-sports. Sometimes I really wonder how they stay afloat (let alone make profit) when they give out ungodly prizes, fly and house foreigners from across the world, hire kpop girls to interact with players, not to mention they broadcast daily so they have to basically pay their whole production crew full time (compared to all other event-based tournaments).
Afaik, sponsor pays for the prize money. So if you have $140k lying around, you could have"productnamehere GSL Season #"
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that's soooooo sick (pronounce like tasteless does) can't wait to see who they will be sending
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