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MLG and KeSPA Announce Multi-Year Partnership - Page 15

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REFLEX_500
Profile Joined February 2012
162 Posts
May 11 2012 08:32 GMT
#281
@ Destroyr Thanks, do my best to convey my ideas clearly on here.

"I dont know but it can be a possibility that the whole korean scene merges back together if SC II is established at the new old teams... In this case we might only have koreans at MLG."

Do you meen that the old Korean teams will be the only teams in MLG now? I would think that this will hurt the scene. If it's only Koreans, MLG could move over to Korea. No reason to have it in North America if there are no Americans in it, right?

-Tommy-
REFLEX_500
BlazeFury01
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1460 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 08:38:02
May 11 2012 08:34 GMT
#282
On May 11 2012 15:08 MLGAnnouncements wrote:
marking the first time in eSports history that KeSPA players will participate in video game tournaments in the United States.


Not true.


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/WCG_2010

However, this partnership opens a vast amount of opportunities for the players, if these organizations plan on funding the players travel and hotel expenses.
StriderDoom
Profile Joined June 2011
United States17 Posts
May 11 2012 08:34 GMT
#283
will kespa players be able to compete in the gsl?

Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
May 11 2012 08:36 GMT
#284
On May 11 2012 17:25 Destroyr wrote:
BTW: PL timetable

3 rounds, as before: May 20-June 19, June 23-July 22, July 23-August 26. So it is in the first round of PL.

Its missing the teams playing on which days.
PL play days for round 1 are:
20 - 22, 26 - 29 May
2-5, 9-12, 16-19 June.
We still don't know about what team plays when and what are they gonna do about the fourth week of round1.
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
May 11 2012 08:36 GMT
#285
The Problem is, that the korean Starcraft scene is still more or less cut in half. There is Kespa on the one side and the rest on the other. Still a lot of work needs to be done, to bringt both together.
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
May 11 2012 08:39 GMT
#286
On May 11 2012 17:23 Proxee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 17:05 Davis23 wrote:
On May 11 2012 16:15 larse wrote:
On May 11 2012 16:11 Davis23 wrote:
I think this exclusive thing is not because of MLG but Kespa.


You think wrong!


OK. Then why MLG didn't sign an exclusive contract with GSL? You think "contract" means one party decides everything?


They got what they wanted from GSL. MLG only became that big because of the koreans. Before them who cares about Incontrol vs Painuser for #Top5 lol!
MLG didn't renewed the partnership with GSL, because they don't need it. They invite the koreans to their PPV-rip-offs and thats enough. Because so many koreans are on foreigner teams now, they will have enough koreans at their events.

Now its the same. With all the hype about BW-Pros switching to SC2, MLG wants a piece of the cake. I hope all the big names of BW fail hard in SC2 and get raped by CodeB players - then MLG paid alot of money for nothing! haha


I dont get why you would hope for that to happen? don't you wanna further e-sports instead of hoping things like this fail regardless of the business side of things?


It depends on your view of eSports. Do you want eSports to continue to grow in the way that it is? With all its charm with brand new tournaments popping up, shows, commentators, pros, sponsors. Or do you want it to become an organization, like the NFL? Rules, regulations, set season, set staff, exclusive players, no cross league play, etc...
Because that is clearly MLGs ultimate goal.
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
May 11 2012 08:41 GMT
#287
On May 11 2012 17:34 StriderDoom wrote:
will kespa players be able to compete in the gsl?


Would have to think they would have their own league.
thee telescopes
Profile Joined August 2010
321 Posts
May 11 2012 08:41 GMT
#288
This deal being exclusive is pretty troubling.
SpectreSOF
Profile Joined July 2010
United States74 Posts
May 11 2012 08:42 GMT
#289
Wait. How about the other way around? It sounds like this "partnership" involves just Koreans coming to MLG events. Will we be sending Western players to compete in Kespa events in Korea?
The road to victory is a path paved with blood and corpses
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
May 11 2012 08:42 GMT
#290
I wouldn't be suprised if the kespa showmatches would be shown on beta streams
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
May 11 2012 08:45 GMT
#291
On May 11 2012 17:34 StriderDoom wrote:
will kespa players be able to compete in the gsl?



probably not. Though it's still more likely than GSL players participating in kespa leagues
SCStardust
Profile Joined November 2011
Portugal8 Posts
May 11 2012 08:46 GMT
#292
It basically seems to mean there will be Kespa/OGN/GOM in Korea (assuming ofc they're not totally side tracking GOM on this and the MLG deal only applies for non-korean events) and then MLG outside of Korea. Exclusive means exclusive, so Flash et al. will not set foot in any other tournaments... "Growing e-sports", right....
vanhio
Profile Joined November 2010
Niue1017 Posts
May 11 2012 08:48 GMT
#293
On May 11 2012 17:01 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 16:59 RageBot wrote:
On May 11 2012 16:52 Dreadwolf wrote:
Well the more i think about this deal the more i hate it. Can Kespa player Stream? doubt it. they are not even allowed to play showmatch. Now they can go to MLG and Kespa stuff and that it. This is a huge kick in the nuts to all the other leagues. I dont really fault MLG to get in on this deal, prety sure kespa want to keep his force choke grip on their players and MLG was just being a good buisness.

Cant say i support this. man why couldnt kespa be a little more late to the party when team have real big money. Yo, Col.Bizu, EG flash, Liquid Jaedong. That would have been the greatest thing for sc2. this deal, its going to rise esport to a new level for sure, but its going to do so by steping on the corpses of people letf out.



EG Flash would suck, Liquid Jaedong would suck, Col.Bisu would suck.
They got far not only because of their talent, but because of their training conditions, these teams don't have players that practice as much.


KT and SKT1 send their entire teams on vacations to Hawaii, Thailand, etc. in the offseason. I'm pretty sure they're doing alright to sustain Flash and Bisu's contracts for the next 100 years if need be.


True that
theBOOCH
Profile Joined November 2010
United States832 Posts
May 11 2012 08:48 GMT
#294
This is going to be fun. I can't wait a whole month!
If all you're offering is Dos Equis, I will stay thirsty thank you very much.
Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
May 11 2012 08:51 GMT
#295
On May 11 2012 16:23 Tsubbi wrote:
Looks like Flash is gonna be there from Sundances Tweet !!!!!!!!!!



Queen will be playing?!
https://soundcloud.com/papercranesdk
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
May 11 2012 08:56 GMT
#296
On May 11 2012 17:51 Testuser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 16:23 Tsubbi wrote:
Looks like Flash is gonna be there from Sundances Tweet !!!!!!!!!!

https://twitter.com/#!/MLGSundance/status/200845945196392448


Queen will be playing?!


Maybe he'll raise Freddie Mercury from the dead to play a song?!
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33634 Posts
May 11 2012 08:56 GMT
#297
Well

http://pgr21.com/zboard4/zboard.php?id=free2&no=47036

the KeSPA version of the announce says nothing about exclusivity.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
AgentChaos
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom4569 Posts
May 11 2012 08:56 GMT
#298
the championship is going to be so stacked with the sc2 pros and bw pros both there
IM & EG supporter
Rainfall7711
Profile Joined December 2011
329 Posts
May 11 2012 08:57 GMT
#299
On May 11 2012 16:41 Autun wrote:
Show nested quote +
I'm very sure that GSL-players still will be able to compete at MLG


While this may be true, it would be next to impossible for Tastosis to cast for their direct competitors. That's the main reason I wouldn't watch.


Competitors? What? It's been said Kespa players may well actually be competing in GSL and GSL players will be able to compete possibly in the proleague and the OGN league. There is no problem. Also Tastosis can cast MLG no problem. Why would this new influx affect casters.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
May 11 2012 08:58 GMT
#300
On May 11 2012 17:56 Waxangel wrote:
Well

http://pgr21.com/zboard4/zboard.php?id=free2&no=47036

the KeSPA version of the announce says nothing about exclusivity.

Now thats funny.
Stork[gm]
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