• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 00:06
CEST 06:06
KST 13:06
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver4[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down0StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon97Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?175Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon How do you feel about the StarCraft shooter announcement at BlizzCon 2026? Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament KSL Week #92
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 542 The Ascended Mutation # 541 Binary Choice
Brood War
General
New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery! Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon? [D] Brainstorming a balance patch for Brood war Making an Online Broodwar Manager Game [ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro16 Group D [ASL22] Ro16 Group C [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro16 Group B
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread EVE Corporation Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Diablo IV [Maplestory Hardcore] Let's Play~!!
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Virtual Romance, Real-Life C…
TrAiDoS
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 5787 users

MLG and KeSPA Announce Multi-Year Partnership - Page 13

Forum Index > SC2 General
769 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 11 12 13 14 15 39 Next All
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
May 11 2012 07:52 GMT
#241
Oooooooooooooh shi~! I kinda felt this was coming, big kick in the balls to GOM.
Dreadwolf
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada220 Posts
May 11 2012 07:52 GMT
#242
Well the more i think about this deal the more i hate it. Can Kespa player Stream? doubt it. they are not even allowed to play showmatch. Now they can go to MLG and Kespa stuff and that it. This is a huge kick in the nuts to all the other leagues. I dont really fault MLG to get in on this deal, prety sure kespa want to keep his force choke grip on their players and MLG was just being a good buisness.

Cant say i support this. man why couldnt kespa be a little more late to the party when team have real big money. Yo, Col.Bizu, EG flash, Liquid Jaedong. That would have been the greatest thing for sc2. this deal, its going to rise esport to a new level for sure, but its going to do so by steping on the corpses of people letf out.

4ZakeN87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1071 Posts
May 11 2012 07:53 GMT
#243
Well we dont know the consequence until we actually see the BW pros play SC2 to be honest. I am not so sure they will come and dominate like so many predicts, I believe it when I see it, and from the way things are heading now we will know soon enough.
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler" Einstein
hangene92
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada258 Posts
May 11 2012 07:54 GMT
#244
Great news! Soo excited!
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one"
ulan-bat
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
China403 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 07:55:22
May 11 2012 07:54 GMT
#245
On May 11 2012 16:44 Spidinko wrote:
Will it be free to watch? Good news either way.

[edit] seems to be the free to watch.
"Short games, shorts, summer weather, those things bring the heat!" - EG.iNcontroL
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
May 11 2012 07:54 GMT
#246
On May 11 2012 16:51 Frankon wrote:
I hope you guys know that:
a) proleague plays at saturday - sundays
b) we still don't know what teams will play during that time - so if KT will have the proleagu match at 9th or 10th so no Flash
c) most likely they will send some players from the teams that won't play on saturday and sunday... but then those players will be jet-lagged for their matches on monday - tuesday.

So realistically this exhibition match will actually do more harm than good. Or that the teams will just send the B-teamers.

I can guarantee you are wrong. Flash will absolutely be there barring sickness or injury.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
tiaz
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden231 Posts
May 11 2012 07:54 GMT
#247
Congratz to everyone who will be able to be there. I'll settle with looking at the spectacle online
"When you play, you have to start off with a mind to turn the game into a rape." - Iloveoov
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
May 11 2012 07:55 GMT
#248
On May 11 2012 16:46 zaii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 16:39 Dosey wrote:
On May 11 2012 16:20 blade55555 wrote:
On May 11 2012 16:19 xBillehx wrote:
On May 11 2012 16:15 larse wrote:
On May 11 2012 16:11 Davis23 wrote:
I think this exclusive thing is not because of MLG but Kespa.


You think wrong!


OK. Then why MLG didn't sign a exclusive contract with GSL?

Maybe they tried? MLG also signed halo players to exclusivity, effectively killing off any competition since they weren't allowed to go to other tournaments.


Really halo players couldn't play in any other tourneys only mlg? lol that's kind of retarded xD


The only "tournaments" I can even think of MLG pros participating in would have been TLN (The LAN Network) and I don't even think Mr. Pennacchio gave out prize money for winners. It was more like a weekend of free food and practicing LAN before an upcoming MLG event for the pros as LAN was extremely different from internet play. Most pros even paid their own way to get out there.

They saw an easy payday early in their careers and sold their soul to the devil. Unfortunately for them, they grew with MLG and didn't know any better... being exclusive only made the game decline until they eventually became irrelevant in eSports. Now they are in an uproar, especially considering HALO is not in Anaheim next month.


They didn't decline because of exclusivity, but that Bungie pretty much gave up on Halo reach and turned it into Cod.


That as well... but it's kind of hard to get motivated (if you are a HALO pro) if you can only play 5 events a year and any time a potential new LAN appears, MLG stomps it out, buying up all their talent and moving on.

Sure the recent games sucked, but what MLG did didn't help their scene either...
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
May 11 2012 07:56 GMT
#249
On May 11 2012 16:51 Frankon wrote:
I hope you guys know that:
a) proleague plays at saturday - sundays
b) we still don't know what teams will play during that time - so if KT will have the proleagu match at 9th or 10th so no Flash
c) most likely they will send some players from the teams that won't play on saturday and sunday... but then those players will be jet-lagged for their matches on monday - tuesday.

So realistically this exhibition match will actually do more harm than good. Or that the teams will just send the B-teamers.

This partnership could also imply that both parties will try their best to avoid such scheduling conflicts, possibly scheduling Proleague around MLG to avoid such problems.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
Verator
Profile Joined June 2010
United States283 Posts
May 11 2012 07:56 GMT
#250
On May 11 2012 16:55 Dosey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 16:46 zaii wrote:
On May 11 2012 16:39 Dosey wrote:
On May 11 2012 16:20 blade55555 wrote:
On May 11 2012 16:19 xBillehx wrote:
On May 11 2012 16:15 larse wrote:
On May 11 2012 16:11 Davis23 wrote:
I think this exclusive thing is not because of MLG but Kespa.


You think wrong!


OK. Then why MLG didn't sign a exclusive contract with GSL?

Maybe they tried? MLG also signed halo players to exclusivity, effectively killing off any competition since they weren't allowed to go to other tournaments.


Really halo players couldn't play in any other tourneys only mlg? lol that's kind of retarded xD


The only "tournaments" I can even think of MLG pros participating in would have been TLN (The LAN Network) and I don't even think Mr. Pennacchio gave out prize money for winners. It was more like a weekend of free food and practicing LAN before an upcoming MLG event for the pros as LAN was extremely different from internet play. Most pros even paid their own way to get out there.

They saw an easy payday early in their careers and sold their soul to the devil. Unfortunately for them, they grew with MLG and didn't know any better... being exclusive only made the game decline until they eventually became irrelevant in eSports. Now they are in an uproar, especially considering HALO is not in Anaheim next month.


They didn't decline because of exclusivity, but that Bungie pretty much gave up on Halo reach and turned it into Cod.


That as well... but it's kind of hard to get motivated (if you are a HALO pro) if you can only play 5 events a year and any time a potential new LAN appears, MLG stomps it out, buying up all their talent and moving on.

Sure the recent games sucked, but what MLG did didn't help their scene either...


Except nobody even tried to host new events anywhere, even before.
So far as I can remember, there is not one word in the Gospels in praise of intelligence. -- Bertrand Russell
geno
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1404 Posts
May 11 2012 07:57 GMT
#251
I really really hope that exclusivity thing doesn't mean KeSPA players won't be allowed to participate in other non-conflicting foreign events like IPL etc.

For tennis fans, imagine if the US Open managed to secure a deal that prevented Nadal/Fed/Djoko/etc from competing in Wimbleton or even ATP events. Absolutely insane.
HellionDrop
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
281 Posts
May 11 2012 07:59 GMT
#252
so many speculations on what exclusivity means here, why can't there be an official statement
RageBot
Profile Joined November 2010
Israel1530 Posts
May 11 2012 07:59 GMT
#253
On May 11 2012 16:52 Dreadwolf wrote:
Well the more i think about this deal the more i hate it. Can Kespa player Stream? doubt it. they are not even allowed to play showmatch. Now they can go to MLG and Kespa stuff and that it. This is a huge kick in the nuts to all the other leagues. I dont really fault MLG to get in on this deal, prety sure kespa want to keep his force choke grip on their players and MLG was just being a good buisness.

Cant say i support this. man why couldnt kespa be a little more late to the party when team have real big money. Yo, Col.Bizu, EG flash, Liquid Jaedong. That would have been the greatest thing for sc2. this deal, its going to rise esport to a new level for sure, but its going to do so by steping on the corpses of people letf out.



EG Flash would suck, Liquid Jaedong would suck, Col.Bisu would suck.
They got far not only because of their talent, but because of their training conditions, these teams don't have players that practice as much.
Verator
Profile Joined June 2010
United States283 Posts
May 11 2012 08:01 GMT
#254
On May 11 2012 16:59 RageBot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 16:52 Dreadwolf wrote:
Well the more i think about this deal the more i hate it. Can Kespa player Stream? doubt it. they are not even allowed to play showmatch. Now they can go to MLG and Kespa stuff and that it. This is a huge kick in the nuts to all the other leagues. I dont really fault MLG to get in on this deal, prety sure kespa want to keep his force choke grip on their players and MLG was just being a good buisness.

Cant say i support this. man why couldnt kespa be a little more late to the party when team have real big money. Yo, Col.Bizu, EG flash, Liquid Jaedong. That would have been the greatest thing for sc2. this deal, its going to rise esport to a new level for sure, but its going to do so by steping on the corpses of people letf out.



EG Flash would suck, Liquid Jaedong would suck, Col.Bisu would suck.
They got far not only because of their talent, but because of their training conditions, these teams don't have players that practice as much.



None of these teams can afford to pay any of the three's salaries either.
So far as I can remember, there is not one word in the Gospels in praise of intelligence. -- Bertrand Russell
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
May 11 2012 08:01 GMT
#255
On May 11 2012 16:59 RageBot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 16:52 Dreadwolf wrote:
Well the more i think about this deal the more i hate it. Can Kespa player Stream? doubt it. they are not even allowed to play showmatch. Now they can go to MLG and Kespa stuff and that it. This is a huge kick in the nuts to all the other leagues. I dont really fault MLG to get in on this deal, prety sure kespa want to keep his force choke grip on their players and MLG was just being a good buisness.

Cant say i support this. man why couldnt kespa be a little more late to the party when team have real big money. Yo, Col.Bizu, EG flash, Liquid Jaedong. That would have been the greatest thing for sc2. this deal, its going to rise esport to a new level for sure, but its going to do so by steping on the corpses of people letf out.



EG Flash would suck, Liquid Jaedong would suck, Col.Bisu would suck.
They got far not only because of their talent, but because of their training conditions, these teams don't have players that practice as much.


KT and SKT1 send their entire teams on vacations to Hawaii, Thailand, etc. in the offseason. I'm pretty sure they're doing alright to sustain Flash and Bisu's contracts for the next 100 years if need be.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
May 11 2012 08:01 GMT
#256
Tbh, if it means that they will only be attending MLG tournaments if they go abroad I'm okay with that. The focus on Proleague is so big and the seasons are pretty long so I wouldn'r wanna see my team send players to weekend-tournaments where they can't show their A-game because you can't prepare correctly and because of jet-lag and stuff.
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
Leetley
Profile Joined October 2010
1796 Posts
May 11 2012 08:02 GMT
#257
On May 11 2012 16:57 geno wrote:
I really really hope that exclusivity thing doesn't mean KeSPA players won't be allowed to participate in other non-conflicting foreign events like IPL etc.

For tennis fans, imagine if the US Open managed to secure a deal that prevented Nadal/Fed/Djoko/etc from competing in Wimbleton or even ATP events. Absolutely insane.

Correct. It's not right to have the Kespa players exclusively in MLG. The players should have freedom to participate in any big global event without restrictions.
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
May 11 2012 08:04 GMT
#258
On May 11 2012 16:57 geno wrote:
I really really hope that exclusivity thing doesn't mean KeSPA players won't be allowed to participate in other non-conflicting foreign events like IPL etc.

For tennis fans, imagine if the US Open managed to secure a deal that prevented Nadal/Fed/Djoko/etc from competing in Wimbleton or even ATP events. Absolutely insane.

tbh I doubt they will attend those. one to two PL matches per week, plus OSL, possibly plus GSL in the future + typical rigid proteam training. So, foreign tourneys might just be a vacation thingy or most likely b-teamers will get some exposure
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
May 11 2012 08:04 GMT
#259
On May 11 2012 16:54 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 16:51 Frankon wrote:
I hope you guys know that:
a) proleague plays at saturday - sundays
b) we still don't know what teams will play during that time - so if KT will have the proleagu match at 9th or 10th so no Flash
c) most likely they will send some players from the teams that won't play on saturday and sunday... but then those players will be jet-lagged for their matches on monday - tuesday.

So realistically this exhibition match will actually do more harm than good. Or that the teams will just send the B-teamers.

I can guarantee you are wrong. Flash will absolutely be there barring sickness or injury.

And ill die laughing if the KT will lose their PL match and not make it to the play-offs(yeah i know 0.001% chances of happening) cause their players will be not present or jetlagged.
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25658 Posts
May 11 2012 08:04 GMT
#260
I like it
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
Prev 1 11 12 13 14 15 39 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 5h 54m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 214
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 1969
sSak 82
Noble 24
soO 11
Moletrap 5
Dota 2
monkeys_forever486
NeuroSwarm196
Counter-Strike
taco 397
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox616
Other Games
summit1g10270
JimRising 536
PiGStarcraft281
Maynarde126
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1197
BasetradeTV54
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH159
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki18
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush1292
• Lourlo999
• Stunt256
Upcoming Events
Afreeca Starleague
5h 54m
Snow vs Shinee
Shine vs EffOrt
GSL
6h 54m
PiGosaur Cup
19h 54m
The PondCast
1d 5h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 6h
Replay Cast
1d 19h
KCM Race Survival
2 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
GSL
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
GSL
5 days
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
5 days
Spirit vs Mixu
Replay Cast
5 days
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-09-14
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Calamity Invitational
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.