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DirtyBirD
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States239 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 00:01:44
May 19 2012 00:01 GMT
#361
So, is there anyway for those of us who are in diamond to figure out what tier we are in based on the information that the program spits out? For example, this is what was collected from my last game:

+ Show Spoiler +
18:23:10 Dataset:
--- GAMESTART ---
TIME: 1337383397932
VALID: true
ERROR:
Player1_won true
--- GAMEEND ---

18:41:26 Ramscanner: name1 : BlizzNoob
18:41:26 Ramscanner: id1 : 1-2923871
18:41:26 Ramscanner: name2 : sMiDirtyBirD
18:41:26 Ramscanner: id2 : 1-3256497
18:47:52 1a 13 2a -13 1b -9999 2b -13

18:47:52 1: 13 2: -13
18:47:52 1: true 2: true
18:47:52 PREPLAYER 1:

--- PLAYERSTART VALID: true ---
Error_Mes:
playername: 1
id: 0
playerlink: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3256497/1/sMiDirtyBirD/
server: US
league: diamond
division_name: Mohandar Whiskey
gamedate: 5/18/2012
mapname: Daybreak LE
totalbonuspool: 495
Wins: 55
Looses: -9999
points: 443
bonus: 209
change_points: 15
adjusted_points: 157
offset: 0
offsetknown: false
mmr: -9999
PLAYEREND

18:47:52 PREPLAYER 2:

--- PLAYERSTART VALID: true ---
Error_Mes:
playername: 2
id: 0
playerlink: http://US.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2923871/1/BlizzNoob/
server: US
league: diamond
division_name: Mar Sara Gamma
gamedate: 5/18/2012
mapname: Korhal Compound LE
totalbonuspool: 495
Wins: 196
Looses: -9999
points: 565
bonus: 209
change_points: -11
adjusted_points: 279
offset: 0
offsetknown: false
mmr: -9999
PLAYEREND

18:47:52 POSTPLAYER 1:

--- PLAYERSTART VALID: true ---
Error_Mes:
playername: sMiDirtyBirD
id: 3256497
playerlink: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3256497/1/sMiDirtyBirD/
server: US
league: diamond
division_name: Mohandar Whiskey
gamedate: 5/18/2012
mapname: Entombed Valley
totalbonuspool: 495
Wins: 56
Looses: -9999
points: 456
bonus: 209
change_points: 13
adjusted_points: 170
offset: 0
offsetknown: false
mmr: 247
PLAYEREND

18:47:52 POSTPLAYER 2:

--- PLAYERSTART VALID: true ---
Error_Mes:
playername: BlizzNoob
id: 2923871
playerlink: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2923871/1/BlizzNoob/
server: US
league: diamond
division_name: Mar Sara Gamma
gamedate: 5/18/2012
mapname: Entombed Valley
totalbonuspool: 495
Wins: 196
Looses: -9999
points: 552
bonus: 209
change_points: -13
adjusted_points: 266
offset: 0
offsetknown: false
mmr: 189
PLAYEREND

18:47:52 Dataset:
--- GAMESTART ---
TIME: 1337384880089
VALID: true
ERROR:
Player1_won true
--- GAMEEND ---
sMi.DirtyBirD
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 00:23:43
May 19 2012 00:17 GMT
#362
On May 19 2012 09:01 DirtyBirD wrote:
So, is there anyway for those of us who are in diamond to figure out what tier we are in based on the information that the program spits out? For example, this is what was collected from my last game:

+ Show Spoiler +
18:23:10 Dataset:
--- GAMESTART ---
TIME: 1337383397932
VALID: true
ERROR:
Player1_won true
--- GAMEEND ---

18:41:26 Ramscanner: name1 : BlizzNoob
18:41:26 Ramscanner: id1 : 1-2923871
18:41:26 Ramscanner: name2 : sMiDirtyBirD
18:41:26 Ramscanner: id2 : 1-3256497
18:47:52 1a 13 2a -13 1b -9999 2b -13

18:47:52 1: 13 2: -13
18:47:52 1: true 2: true
18:47:52 PREPLAYER 1:

--- PLAYERSTART VALID: true ---
Error_Mes:
playername: 1
id: 0
playerlink: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3256497/1/sMiDirtyBirD/
server: US
league: diamond
division_name: Mohandar Whiskey
gamedate: 5/18/2012
mapname: Daybreak LE
totalbonuspool: 495
Wins: 55
Looses: -9999
points: 443
bonus: 209
change_points: 15
adjusted_points: 157
offset: 0
offsetknown: false
mmr: -9999
PLAYEREND

18:47:52 PREPLAYER 2:

--- PLAYERSTART VALID: true ---
Error_Mes:
playername: 2
id: 0
playerlink: http://US.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2923871/1/BlizzNoob/
server: US
league: diamond
division_name: Mar Sara Gamma
gamedate: 5/18/2012
mapname: Korhal Compound LE
totalbonuspool: 495
Wins: 196
Looses: -9999
points: 565
bonus: 209
change_points: -11
adjusted_points: 279
offset: 0
offsetknown: false
mmr: -9999
PLAYEREND

18:47:52 POSTPLAYER 1:

--- PLAYERSTART VALID: true ---
Error_Mes:
playername: sMiDirtyBirD
id: 3256497
playerlink: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3256497/1/sMiDirtyBirD/
server: US
league: diamond
division_name: Mohandar Whiskey
gamedate: 5/18/2012
mapname: Entombed Valley
totalbonuspool: 495
Wins: 56
Looses: -9999
points: 456
bonus: 209
change_points: 13
adjusted_points: 170
offset: 0
offsetknown: false
mmr: 247
PLAYEREND

18:47:52 POSTPLAYER 2:

--- PLAYERSTART VALID: true ---
Error_Mes:
playername: BlizzNoob
id: 2923871
playerlink: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2923871/1/BlizzNoob/
server: US
league: diamond
division_name: Mar Sara Gamma
gamedate: 5/18/2012
mapname: Entombed Valley
totalbonuspool: 495
Wins: 196
Looses: -9999
points: 552
bonus: 209
change_points: -13
adjusted_points: 266
offset: 0
offsetknown: false
mmr: 189
PLAYEREND

18:47:52 Dataset:
--- GAMESTART ---
TIME: 1337384880089
VALID: true
ERROR:
Player1_won true
--- GAMEEND ---

go to "log" - "Analyser" . You see what tier the analyse give you in first line. It get more solid with every game you play

dont forget : tier != skill
its only the skill in the second you get promoted to dia.
The average line show your skill

tier / league, thats all shadows that bliz show you to hide your mmr.
I analyse this "fake" data to calculate it out.
Save gaming: kill esport
Chrono000
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Korea (South)358 Posts
May 19 2012 00:26 GMT
#363
I get a message that says "MMR-Stats is still loading... try again."

Nothing seems to happen and when I try again the same message appears. Anyone else have this problem?
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 00:36:17
May 19 2012 00:36 GMT
#364
On May 19 2012 09:26 Chrono000 wrote:
I get a message that says "MMR-Stats is still loading... try again."

Nothing seems to happen and when I try again the same message appears. Anyone else have this problem?


when did you download?
can you give me the the information in

help - system information of sc2gears
Save gaming: kill esport
DirtyBirD
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States239 Posts
May 19 2012 00:42 GMT
#365
On May 19 2012 09:17 skeldark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 09:01 DirtyBirD wrote:
So, is there anyway for those of us who are in diamond to figure out what tier we are in based on the information that the program spits out? For example, this is what was collected from my last game:

+ Show Spoiler +
18:23:10 Dataset:
--- GAMESTART ---
TIME: 1337383397932
VALID: true
ERROR:
Player1_won true
--- GAMEEND ---

18:41:26 Ramscanner: name1 : BlizzNoob
18:41:26 Ramscanner: id1 : 1-2923871
18:41:26 Ramscanner: name2 : sMiDirtyBirD
18:41:26 Ramscanner: id2 : 1-3256497
18:47:52 1a 13 2a -13 1b -9999 2b -13

18:47:52 1: 13 2: -13
18:47:52 1: true 2: true
18:47:52 PREPLAYER 1:

--- PLAYERSTART VALID: true ---
Error_Mes:
playername: 1
id: 0
playerlink: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3256497/1/sMiDirtyBirD/
server: US
league: diamond
division_name: Mohandar Whiskey
gamedate: 5/18/2012
mapname: Daybreak LE
totalbonuspool: 495
Wins: 55
Looses: -9999
points: 443
bonus: 209
change_points: 15
adjusted_points: 157
offset: 0
offsetknown: false
mmr: -9999
PLAYEREND

18:47:52 PREPLAYER 2:

--- PLAYERSTART VALID: true ---
Error_Mes:
playername: 2
id: 0
playerlink: http://US.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2923871/1/BlizzNoob/
server: US
league: diamond
division_name: Mar Sara Gamma
gamedate: 5/18/2012
mapname: Korhal Compound LE
totalbonuspool: 495
Wins: 196
Looses: -9999
points: 565
bonus: 209
change_points: -11
adjusted_points: 279
offset: 0
offsetknown: false
mmr: -9999
PLAYEREND

18:47:52 POSTPLAYER 1:

--- PLAYERSTART VALID: true ---
Error_Mes:
playername: sMiDirtyBirD
id: 3256497
playerlink: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3256497/1/sMiDirtyBirD/
server: US
league: diamond
division_name: Mohandar Whiskey
gamedate: 5/18/2012
mapname: Entombed Valley
totalbonuspool: 495
Wins: 56
Looses: -9999
points: 456
bonus: 209
change_points: 13
adjusted_points: 170
offset: 0
offsetknown: false
mmr: 247
PLAYEREND

18:47:52 POSTPLAYER 2:

--- PLAYERSTART VALID: true ---
Error_Mes:
playername: BlizzNoob
id: 2923871
playerlink: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2923871/1/BlizzNoob/
server: US
league: diamond
division_name: Mar Sara Gamma
gamedate: 5/18/2012
mapname: Entombed Valley
totalbonuspool: 495
Wins: 196
Looses: -9999
points: 552
bonus: 209
change_points: -13
adjusted_points: 266
offset: 0
offsetknown: false
mmr: 189
PLAYEREND

18:47:52 Dataset:
--- GAMESTART ---
TIME: 1337384880089
VALID: true
ERROR:
Player1_won true
--- GAMEEND ---

go to "log" - "Analyser" . You see what tier the analyse give you in first line. It get more solid with every game you play

dont forget : tier != skill
its only the skill in the second you get promoted to dia.
The average line show your skill

tier / league, thats all shadows that bliz show you to hide your mmr.
I analyse this "fake" data to calculate it out.

Got ya.

Another question, how long does it take before the graph starts to plant points? My graph is the same as it was when I first started to use this 3-4 games ago.
sMi.DirtyBirD
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 00:44:59
May 19 2012 00:44 GMT
#366
On May 19 2012 09:42 DirtyBirD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 09:17 skeldark wrote:
On May 19 2012 09:01 DirtyBirD wrote:
So, is there anyway for those of us who are in diamond to figure out what tier we are in based on the information that the program spits out? For example, this is what was collected from my last game:

+ Show Spoiler +
18:23:10 Dataset:
--- GAMESTART ---
TIME: 1337383397932
VALID: true
ERROR:
Player1_won true
--- GAMEEND ---

18:41:26 Ramscanner: name1 : BlizzNoob
18:41:26 Ramscanner: id1 : 1-2923871
18:41:26 Ramscanner: name2 : sMiDirtyBirD
18:41:26 Ramscanner: id2 : 1-3256497
18:47:52 1a 13 2a -13 1b -9999 2b -13

18:47:52 1: 13 2: -13
18:47:52 1: true 2: true
18:47:52 PREPLAYER 1:

--- PLAYERSTART VALID: true ---
Error_Mes:
playername: 1
id: 0
playerlink: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3256497/1/sMiDirtyBirD/
server: US
league: diamond
division_name: Mohandar Whiskey
gamedate: 5/18/2012
mapname: Daybreak LE
totalbonuspool: 495
Wins: 55
Looses: -9999
points: 443
bonus: 209
change_points: 15
adjusted_points: 157
offset: 0
offsetknown: false
mmr: -9999
PLAYEREND

18:47:52 PREPLAYER 2:

--- PLAYERSTART VALID: true ---
Error_Mes:
playername: 2
id: 0
playerlink: http://US.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2923871/1/BlizzNoob/
server: US
league: diamond
division_name: Mar Sara Gamma
gamedate: 5/18/2012
mapname: Korhal Compound LE
totalbonuspool: 495
Wins: 196
Looses: -9999
points: 565
bonus: 209
change_points: -11
adjusted_points: 279
offset: 0
offsetknown: false
mmr: -9999
PLAYEREND

18:47:52 POSTPLAYER 1:

--- PLAYERSTART VALID: true ---
Error_Mes:
playername: sMiDirtyBirD
id: 3256497
playerlink: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3256497/1/sMiDirtyBirD/
server: US
league: diamond
division_name: Mohandar Whiskey
gamedate: 5/18/2012
mapname: Entombed Valley
totalbonuspool: 495
Wins: 56
Looses: -9999
points: 456
bonus: 209
change_points: 13
adjusted_points: 170
offset: 0
offsetknown: false
mmr: 247
PLAYEREND

18:47:52 POSTPLAYER 2:

--- PLAYERSTART VALID: true ---
Error_Mes:
playername: BlizzNoob
id: 2923871
playerlink: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2923871/1/BlizzNoob/
server: US
league: diamond
division_name: Mar Sara Gamma
gamedate: 5/18/2012
mapname: Entombed Valley
totalbonuspool: 495
Wins: 196
Looses: -9999
points: 552
bonus: 209
change_points: -13
adjusted_points: 266
offset: 0
offsetknown: false
mmr: 189
PLAYEREND

18:47:52 Dataset:
--- GAMESTART ---
TIME: 1337384880089
VALID: true
ERROR:
Player1_won true
--- GAMEEND ---

go to "log" - "Analyser" . You see what tier the analyse give you in first line. It get more solid with every game you play

dont forget : tier != skill
its only the skill in the second you get promoted to dia.
The average line show your skill

tier / league, thats all shadows that bliz show you to hide your mmr.
I analyse this "fake" data to calculate it out.

Got ya.

Another question, how long does it take before the graph starts to plant points? My graph is the same as it was when I first started to use this 3-4 games ago.

aaaaaaaaaaaah
it should....
instant...
hit one of the checkboxes down. does he update?
does the log say that the games are fine?
Save gaming: kill esport
Chrono000
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Korea (South)358 Posts
May 19 2012 00:50 GMT
#367
Do you mean "View System messages" i got some information in there as follow


Plugin "MMR Calculator" cannot be loaded, main class is already associated with plugin: "MMR Calculator"
Exception in thread "Thread-5" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/jfree/data/category/CategoryDataset
at mmr.gui.MmrGUI.<init>(MmrGUI.java:415)
at mmr.Main.init(Main.java:72)
at mmr.Main.run(Main.java:200)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.jfree.data.category.CategoryDataset
at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source)
at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
... 4 more


I downloaded it just a few minutes ago.
DirtyBirD
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States239 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 00:51:51
May 19 2012 00:50 GMT
#368
On May 19 2012 09:44 skeldark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 09:42 DirtyBirD wrote:
On May 19 2012 09:17 skeldark wrote:
On May 19 2012 09:01 DirtyBirD wrote:
So, is there anyway for those of us who are in diamond to figure out what tier we are in based on the information that the program spits out? For example, this is what was collected from my last game:

+ Show Spoiler +
18:23:10 Dataset:
--- GAMESTART ---
TIME: 1337383397932
VALID: true
ERROR:
Player1_won true
--- GAMEEND ---

18:41:26 Ramscanner: name1 : BlizzNoob
18:41:26 Ramscanner: id1 : 1-2923871
18:41:26 Ramscanner: name2 : sMiDirtyBirD
18:41:26 Ramscanner: id2 : 1-3256497
18:47:52 1a 13 2a -13 1b -9999 2b -13

18:47:52 1: 13 2: -13
18:47:52 1: true 2: true
18:47:52 PREPLAYER 1:

--- PLAYERSTART VALID: true ---
Error_Mes:
playername: 1
id: 0
playerlink: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3256497/1/sMiDirtyBirD/
server: US
league: diamond
division_name: Mohandar Whiskey
gamedate: 5/18/2012
mapname: Daybreak LE
totalbonuspool: 495
Wins: 55
Looses: -9999
points: 443
bonus: 209
change_points: 15
adjusted_points: 157
offset: 0
offsetknown: false
mmr: -9999
PLAYEREND

18:47:52 PREPLAYER 2:

--- PLAYERSTART VALID: true ---
Error_Mes:
playername: 2
id: 0
playerlink: http://US.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2923871/1/BlizzNoob/
server: US
league: diamond
division_name: Mar Sara Gamma
gamedate: 5/18/2012
mapname: Korhal Compound LE
totalbonuspool: 495
Wins: 196
Looses: -9999
points: 565
bonus: 209
change_points: -11
adjusted_points: 279
offset: 0
offsetknown: false
mmr: -9999
PLAYEREND

18:47:52 POSTPLAYER 1:

--- PLAYERSTART VALID: true ---
Error_Mes:
playername: sMiDirtyBirD
id: 3256497
playerlink: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3256497/1/sMiDirtyBirD/
server: US
league: diamond
division_name: Mohandar Whiskey
gamedate: 5/18/2012
mapname: Entombed Valley
totalbonuspool: 495
Wins: 56
Looses: -9999
points: 456
bonus: 209
change_points: 13
adjusted_points: 170
offset: 0
offsetknown: false
mmr: 247
PLAYEREND

18:47:52 POSTPLAYER 2:

--- PLAYERSTART VALID: true ---
Error_Mes:
playername: BlizzNoob
id: 2923871
playerlink: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2923871/1/BlizzNoob/
server: US
league: diamond
division_name: Mar Sara Gamma
gamedate: 5/18/2012
mapname: Entombed Valley
totalbonuspool: 495
Wins: 196
Looses: -9999
points: 552
bonus: 209
change_points: -13
adjusted_points: 266
offset: 0
offsetknown: false
mmr: 189
PLAYEREND

18:47:52 Dataset:
--- GAMESTART ---
TIME: 1337384880089
VALID: true
ERROR:
Player1_won true
--- GAMEEND ---

go to "log" - "Analyser" . You see what tier the analyse give you in first line. It get more solid with every game you play

dont forget : tier != skill
its only the skill in the second you get promoted to dia.
The average line show your skill

tier / league, thats all shadows that bliz show you to hide your mmr.
I analyse this "fake" data to calculate it out.

Got ya.

Another question, how long does it take before the graph starts to plant points? My graph is the same as it was when I first started to use this 3-4 games ago.

aaaaaaaaaaaah
it should....
instant...
hit one of the checkboxes down. does he update?
does the log say that the games are fine?

I checked the boxes up to Master and this is what my log says:
+ Show Spoiler +
15:43:47 MMR-Calculator 2.0
15:43:47 FATALERROR loading settings
15:43:48 Versionchecker: Version up to date
15:43:49 OK Gameobserver: running!
15:43:49 OK Timeclient: Systemtime offset: 7 sec
18:18:25 Game Start detected
18:23:10 DATA Alg.B: 1 : ERROR under master rule
18:23:10 OK Game collected!
18:23:11 OK Uploader: game uploaded
18:23:11 Ladder Game Done!
18:41:26 Game Start detected
18:47:52 DATA Alg.B: 1 : ERROR under master rule
18:47:52 OK Game collected!
18:47:54 OK Uploader: game uploaded
18:47:54 Ladder Game Done!
19:16:55 Game Start detected
19:37:21 DATA Alg.B: 1 : ERROR under master rule
19:37:21 OK Game collected!
19:37:22 OK Uploader: game uploaded
19:37:22 Ladder Game Done!


Edit: Ah, had to uncheck the average 5.
sMi.DirtyBirD
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
May 19 2012 00:57 GMT
#369
On May 19 2012 09:50 DirtyBirD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 09:44 skeldark wrote:
On May 19 2012 09:42 DirtyBirD wrote:
On May 19 2012 09:17 skeldark wrote:
On May 19 2012 09:01 DirtyBirD wrote:
So, is there anyway for those of us who are in diamond to figure out what tier we are in based on the information that the program spits out? For example, this is what was collected from my last game:

+ Show Spoiler +
18:23:10 Dataset:
--- GAMESTART ---
TIME: 1337383397932
VALID: true
ERROR:
Player1_won true
--- GAMEEND ---

18:41:26 Ramscanner: name1 : BlizzNoob
18:41:26 Ramscanner: id1 : 1-2923871
18:41:26 Ramscanner: name2 : sMiDirtyBirD
18:41:26 Ramscanner: id2 : 1-3256497
18:47:52 1a 13 2a -13 1b -9999 2b -13

18:47:52 1: 13 2: -13
18:47:52 1: true 2: true
18:47:52 PREPLAYER 1:

--- PLAYERSTART VALID: true ---
Error_Mes:
playername: 1
id: 0
playerlink: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3256497/1/sMiDirtyBirD/
server: US
league: diamond
division_name: Mohandar Whiskey
gamedate: 5/18/2012
mapname: Daybreak LE
totalbonuspool: 495
Wins: 55
Looses: -9999
points: 443
bonus: 209
change_points: 15
adjusted_points: 157
offset: 0
offsetknown: false
mmr: -9999
PLAYEREND

18:47:52 PREPLAYER 2:

--- PLAYERSTART VALID: true ---
Error_Mes:
playername: 2
id: 0
playerlink: http://US.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2923871/1/BlizzNoob/
server: US
league: diamond
division_name: Mar Sara Gamma
gamedate: 5/18/2012
mapname: Korhal Compound LE
totalbonuspool: 495
Wins: 196
Looses: -9999
points: 565
bonus: 209
change_points: -11
adjusted_points: 279
offset: 0
offsetknown: false
mmr: -9999
PLAYEREND

18:47:52 POSTPLAYER 1:

--- PLAYERSTART VALID: true ---
Error_Mes:
playername: sMiDirtyBirD
id: 3256497
playerlink: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3256497/1/sMiDirtyBirD/
server: US
league: diamond
division_name: Mohandar Whiskey
gamedate: 5/18/2012
mapname: Entombed Valley
totalbonuspool: 495
Wins: 56
Looses: -9999
points: 456
bonus: 209
change_points: 13
adjusted_points: 170
offset: 0
offsetknown: false
mmr: 247
PLAYEREND

18:47:52 POSTPLAYER 2:

--- PLAYERSTART VALID: true ---
Error_Mes:
playername: BlizzNoob
id: 2923871
playerlink: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2923871/1/BlizzNoob/
server: US
league: diamond
division_name: Mar Sara Gamma
gamedate: 5/18/2012
mapname: Entombed Valley
totalbonuspool: 495
Wins: 196
Looses: -9999
points: 552
bonus: 209
change_points: -13
adjusted_points: 266
offset: 0
offsetknown: false
mmr: 189
PLAYEREND

18:47:52 Dataset:
--- GAMESTART ---
TIME: 1337384880089
VALID: true
ERROR:
Player1_won true
--- GAMEEND ---

go to "log" - "Analyser" . You see what tier the analyse give you in first line. It get more solid with every game you play

dont forget : tier != skill
its only the skill in the second you get promoted to dia.
The average line show your skill

tier / league, thats all shadows that bliz show you to hide your mmr.
I analyse this "fake" data to calculate it out.

Got ya.

Another question, how long does it take before the graph starts to plant points? My graph is the same as it was when I first started to use this 3-4 games ago.

aaaaaaaaaaaah
it should....
instant...
hit one of the checkboxes down. does he update?
does the log say that the games are fine?

I checked the boxes up to Master and this is what my log says:
+ Show Spoiler +
15:43:47 MMR-Calculator 2.0
15:43:47 FATALERROR loading settings
15:43:48 Versionchecker: Version up to date
15:43:49 OK Gameobserver: running!
15:43:49 OK Timeclient: Systemtime offset: 7 sec
18:18:25 Game Start detected
18:23:10 DATA Alg.B: 1 : ERROR under master rule
18:23:10 OK Game collected!
18:23:11 OK Uploader: game uploaded
18:23:11 Ladder Game Done!
18:41:26 Game Start detected
18:47:52 DATA Alg.B: 1 : ERROR under master rule
18:47:52 OK Game collected!
18:47:54 OK Uploader: game uploaded
18:47:54 Ladder Game Done!
19:16:55 Game Start detected
19:37:21 DATA Alg.B: 1 : ERROR under master rule
19:37:21 OK Game collected!
19:37:22 OK Uploader: game uploaded
19:37:22 Ladder Game Done!


Edit: Ah, had to uncheck the average 5.


I will check why average is not updating

On May 19 2012 09:50 Chrono000 wrote:
Do you mean "View System messages" i got some information in there as follow


Plugin "MMR Calculator" cannot be loaded, main class is already associated with plugin: "MMR Calculator"
Exception in thread "Thread-5" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/jfree/data/category/CategoryDataset
at mmr.gui.MmrGUI.<init>(MmrGUI.java:415)
at mmr.Main.init(Main.java:72)
at mmr.Main.run(Main.java:200)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.jfree.data.category.CategoryDataset
at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source)
at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
... 4 more


I downloaded it just a few minutes ago.

this error makes no sense at all...
Did you have previous version or is this a total newinstall?
It looks like you have 2 diffrent version at once?
can you check you pluginfolder... delete hole mmr and unpack again?
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Chrono000
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Korea (South)358 Posts
May 19 2012 00:59 GMT
#370
Looks like I got it working the error was the folders in the plug in directory I had 2 and there must of been a conflict.
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 14:37:11
May 19 2012 14:34 GMT
#371
I cleaned all old data and uploaded it
-removed double
-removed bad games
-removed version with bugs in the datacollector
-removed personal information

Collected gamedata as "," separated csv file.

V 0.9 and under
1.7.1 and above
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InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
May 19 2012 14:54 GMT
#372
I think the MMR calculations at lower leagues don't actually work.I have a bronze account I never use that I figured I'd try out to see how it looked.

Regardless of the fact that I've never lost a game while recording, the MMR still drops considerably randomly.
Cereal
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 15:04:30
May 19 2012 15:01 GMT
#373
On May 19 2012 23:54 InfCereal wrote:
I think the MMR calculations at lower leagues don't actually work.I have a bronze account I never use that I figured I'd try out to see how it looked.

Regardless of the fact that I've never lost a game while recording, the MMR still drops considerably randomly.

The image at the op is no fake. This is my real data collected in last 60 games.
Down to silver and up again ( sorry for all the early leave and allins if someone played against me ^^)

Bronze is hard.
most likely he have to less games to judge your tier right.
Let me have a look.
Can you give me your data.obj?
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InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
May 19 2012 15:27 GMT
#374
On May 20 2012 00:01 skeldark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 23:54 InfCereal wrote:
I think the MMR calculations at lower leagues don't actually work.I have a bronze account I never use that I figured I'd try out to see how it looked.

Regardless of the fact that I've never lost a game while recording, the MMR still drops considerably randomly.

The image at the op is no fake. This is my real data collected in last 60 games.
Down to silver and up again ( sorry for all the early leave and allins if someone played against me ^^)

Bronze is hard.
most likely he have to less games to judge your tier right.
Let me have a look.
Can you give me your data.obj?


I was just looking at the individual drops and such. You'd think your mmr would either stay constant or rise when you never lose.
Cereal
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 15:55:41
May 19 2012 15:47 GMT
#375
On May 20 2012 00:27 InfCereal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 00:01 skeldark wrote:
On May 19 2012 23:54 InfCereal wrote:
I think the MMR calculations at lower leagues don't actually work.I have a bronze account I never use that I figured I'd try out to see how it looked.

Regardless of the fact that I've never lost a game while recording, the MMR still drops considerably randomly.

The image at the op is no fake. This is my real data collected in last 60 games.
Down to silver and up again ( sorry for all the early leave and allins if someone played against me ^^)

Bronze is hard.
most likely he have to less games to judge your tier right.
Let me have a look.
Can you give me your data.obj?


I was just looking at the individual drops and such. You'd think your mmr would either stay constant or rise when you never lose.

Yes. If the data is 100% correct. Thats not the case for under master.
I can guess the offsets and or tiers wrong. Than this mistakes happen. The important part is that the error is independent and will equal itself out over time.

EDIT: found a bug in your data i will look into it
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Malhavoc
Profile Joined October 2010
Italy308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 16:43:00
May 19 2012 16:41 GMT
#376
About the memory scan: am I wrong or there are certain map hacks around which just do a similar thing? I mean reading SC2 memory and displaying the revealed map in a separate window, external to SC2? I hope Blizzard's Warden is able to detect these somehow, which I think it can do in one of these ways:

- detecting some modifications in SC2's memory (such as the removal of fog of war directly into the SC2 client rather than on another window)
- scanning the memory for certain known dlls or application names
- detecting certain hooks (I don't really completely understand what this imply)
- detecting the memory read somehow

I'm a programmer, but I'm not into these specific things..I doubt Blizzard will ever configure Warden to detect your specific program (which is techically doable), but I fear a bit the possibility of it detecting a generic memory read or hook, so that this memory read of yours could be taken for a more evil hack instead.

Is it really techically impossible to detect a simple memory scan?
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 17:37:09
May 19 2012 16:57 GMT
#377
On May 20 2012 01:41 Malhavoc wrote:
About the memory scan: am I wrong or there are certain map hacks around which just do a similar thing? I mean reading SC2 memory and displaying the revealed map in a separate window, external to SC2? I hope Blizzard's Warden is able to detect these somehow, which I think it can do in one of these ways:

- detecting some modifications in SC2's memory (such as the removal of fog of war directly into the SC2 client rather than on another window)
- scanning the memory for certain known dlls or application names
- detecting certain hooks (I don't really completely understand what this imply)
- detecting the memory read somehow

I'm a programmer, but I'm not into these specific things..I doubt Blizzard will ever configure Warden to detect your specific program (which is techically doable), but I fear a bit the possibility of it detecting a generic memory read or hook, so that this memory read of yours could be taken for a more evil hack instead.

Is it really techically impossible to detect a simple memory scan?

I get the memory from windows.

- They could hook into windows and catch the any memory read of a program that read another program. This would a) be illegal b) detected by all antivirus programs
- Detect the memory read directly : impossible because outsite of the right of a single program.
- They can check the sc2 ram if it change. I dont change it.
- They could scan the memory for certain dlls. The dll i use is very common. Ban for this dll would produce a lot wrong positive.
- Blizzard is not able to detect any good maphacks. They search for the maphacks they already know. ( and the maphacks disable themself if they notice warden updated his database)
- Search for my program in the active programs: possible! but like i said why would they ban for this if they dont ban so much other stuff.

But what i do is reading 4 integers out of the memory over windows debug mode. I change nothing, i dont hook into any driver or dll.
Im not the only sc2 tool that read this values...
You can check my sourcecode on the website and look for yourself what i do.
Class Ramscanner



Blizzard act strange sometimes and banned wrong positives in the past so i give no guarantee that you will never get banned.

BTW:
2.0.1 out , very special bugfix!
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DirtyBirD
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States239 Posts
May 19 2012 18:24 GMT
#378
On May 19 2012 23:54 InfCereal wrote:
I think the MMR calculations at lower leagues don't actually work.I have a bronze account I never use that I figured I'd try out to see how it looked.

Regardless of the fact that I've never lost a game while recording, the MMR still drops considerably randomly.

Yeah, I'm a diamond and for some reason after 5 games my MMR has dropped on the graph and in the log even though I went 4-1. Seems odd to me that it consistently dropped from game to game on the graph. I won games 1-3 then lost game 4 and won game 5. These are the MMR points on the graph for each game:
1. 2256
2. 2262
3. 2183
4. 2176
5. 2138

Also, what is this from the log: "13:5:12 ERROR Timeclient failed" ?
sMi.DirtyBirD
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 18:41:15
May 19 2012 18:34 GMT
#379
On May 20 2012 03:24 DirtyBirD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 23:54 InfCereal wrote:
I think the MMR calculations at lower leagues don't actually work.I have a bronze account I never use that I figured I'd try out to see how it looked.

Regardless of the fact that I've never lost a game while recording, the MMR still drops considerably randomly.

Yeah, I'm a diamond and for some reason after 5 games my MMR has dropped on the graph and in the log even though I went 4-1. Seems odd to me that it consistently dropped from game to game on the graph. I won games 1-3 then lost game 4 and won game 5. These are the MMR points on the graph for each game:
1. 2256
2. 2262
3. 2183
4. 2176
5. 2138

I will add the answer to op...
DATA ACCURACY + Show Spoiler +

If you look at your graph you will see the deviation in the top.
If you click "know tiers only" he only analyse games AGAINST master players. This data is +-16 point exact.
Under Master i use analyse functions to guess your MMR. This is not always correct.
Single points will show wrong results when i guess the opponent tier wrong.
However if you look at the average data you should see over time if you improve or not.
Also it should give you a good indicator if you get promoted/ demoted or if you are stable in your league.
We try to make all data very accurate, but for that we need to find out more about MMR.
So please enable "data upload" in the settings so we get more data to analyse.
Thank you.



Also, what is this from the log: "13:5:12 ERROR Timeclient failed" ?

For the calculation i need the exact time. I correct your system clock with a internet timeserver..
Looks like he blocked you because you open the prog to often. He will retry every game until he gets the time again.
I think i should move to a other timeserver tho.



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DirtyBirD
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States239 Posts
May 19 2012 20:45 GMT
#380
On May 20 2012 03:34 skeldark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 03:24 DirtyBirD wrote:
On May 19 2012 23:54 InfCereal wrote:
I think the MMR calculations at lower leagues don't actually work.I have a bronze account I never use that I figured I'd try out to see how it looked.

Regardless of the fact that I've never lost a game while recording, the MMR still drops considerably randomly.

Yeah, I'm a diamond and for some reason after 5 games my MMR has dropped on the graph and in the log even though I went 4-1. Seems odd to me that it consistently dropped from game to game on the graph. I won games 1-3 then lost game 4 and won game 5. These are the MMR points on the graph for each game:
1. 2256
2. 2262
3. 2183
4. 2176
5. 2138

I will add the answer to op...
DATA ACCURACY + Show Spoiler +

If you look at your graph you will see the deviation in the top.
If you click "know tiers only" he only analyse games AGAINST master players. This data is +-16 point exact.
Under Master i use analyse functions to guess your MMR. This is not always correct.
Single points will show wrong results when i guess the opponent tier wrong.
However if you look at the average data you should see over time if you improve or not.
Also it should give you a good indicator if you get promoted/ demoted or if you are stable in your league.
We try to make all data very accurate, but for that we need to find out more about MMR.
So please enable "data upload" in the settings so we get more data to analyse.
Thank you.


Show nested quote +

Also, what is this from the log: "13:5:12 ERROR Timeclient failed" ?

For the calculation i need the exact time. I correct your system clock with a internet timeserver..
Looks like he blocked you because you open the prog to often. He will retry every game until he gets the time again.
I think i should move to a other timeserver tho.




Understood. Thanks for the explanation of why it might have an inaccurate point in the graph for some of the games. I've had "data upload" enabled since the start as well as the RAM/memory reader.
sMi.DirtyBirD
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