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Geos13
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Insane
United States4991 Posts
On May 22 2012 13:17 Not_That wrote: Yeah we've modified pretty much all the offsets to better reflect the actual offsets. Your MMR number may be lower, but it will better reflect when can you expect a promotion/demotion and how high you are within your league. Oh OK, the reason I was wondering is because I thought master league had 0 offset anyway. Is it not the case that "my MMR with analyze offsets" - "master league base" = my MMR? Just wondering, because the value without "analyze offsets" is pretty far off from the value with analyze offsets - master league base. I'm pretty sure I'm asking dumb questions (maybe even ones asked before?), but a quick explanation (maybe in the OP or something) would help out dummies like me :D The readme there is a bit outdated, since it's referring to the "known tiers" option, which isn't in the version I have now  I don't know about for other people, but this has actually rekindled my interest in ladder, as now I can actually track my progress worth a damn. | ||
ZeromuS
Canada13410 Posts
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skeldark
Germany2223 Posts
On May 22 2012 13:31 Geos13 wrote: Thanks Not_that and Skeldark. You guys are doing awesome work. Good luck cracking the mystery! Thank you! On May 22 2012 13:06 Insane wrote: Is there something messed up with the link on your site? Both of the download links seem to go to the same file, and looking at the manifest xml, it still has <version>2.0.1</version> in it. e: I manually corrected the link so it has _UNSTABLE in it (the text for your link in this topic has it, but not the actual link target) and downloaded it. Trying out the new version now! The first thing I note is that it seems to have my MMR a lot lower than it used to be - I'm guessing that's expected? sorry fixed wrong link in the page On May 22 2012 13:57 ZeromuS wrote: Quick question: Can I use this to analyze my MMR with older replays from the last few days or will i need to play a game to make use of it right now? It does not work with replays at all! Sc2gears is only for trigger me after game and give me the playernames out of the replay. It have to be enabled while playing. On May 22 2012 13:39 Insane wrote: Oh OK, the reason I was wondering is because I thought master league had 0 offset anyway. Is it not the case that "my MMR with analyze offsets" - "master league base" = my MMR? Just wondering, because the value without "analyze offsets" is pretty far off from the value with analyze offsets - master league base. I'm pretty sure I'm asking dumb questions (maybe even ones asked before?), but a quick explanation (maybe in the OP or something) would help out dummies like me :D The readme there is a bit outdated, since it's referring to the "known tiers" option, which isn't in the version I have now I don't know about for other people, but this has actually rekindled my interest in ladder, as now I can actually track my progress worth a damn. i will fix it. your mmr is the one you see when "analyze is on" the other one is the mmr without taking any offsets into account. ( if you play master guys 0 at master if you play silver 0 at silver) | ||
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ZeromuS
Canada13410 Posts
It does not work with replays at all! Sc2gears is only for trigger me after game and give me the playernames out of the replay. It have to be enabled while playing. Ok cool thanks, good to know  I tried to use someone i played before with greasemonkey but I got told my MMR was negative lol. Oh well, I will wait till I get a chance to play again  | ||
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skeldark
Germany2223 Posts
On May 22 2012 14:11 ZeromuS wrote: Ok cool thanks, good to know I tried to use someone i played before with greasemonkey but I got told my MMR was negative lol. Oh well, I will wait till I get a chance to play again The maker of the greasemonkey tool is not_that who did alot of the math behind this. He did not update the f function in his script yet but it can be, that your mmr is negative for your tier. If you click analysed data it will be positive. His javascript dont guess the offsets, like this tool does. However we find out today that you can not trust the data of games where one guy have negative dmmr ( devision depending) So i have to throw the data of you away if this is the case. The data of the opponent is still valid tho and this means you can judge your progress on the opponents the system give you. In perfekt world : your mmr = opponent mmr | ||
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Geos13
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skeldark
Germany2223 Posts
On May 22 2012 15:42 Geos13 wrote: I'm not sure if this is a bug but when I deselect "show opponent" my graph only shows the first half of my games. As in I have played around 90 games but with the opponent not shown my graph only goes up to about game 45. I could post pictures if needed. stable or unstable version? anything special about the game where he breaks? both datapoints there or only one? when only one which one? can it be that you only have 45 games where your data is stored`? = does the number under the games that he show jump? | ||
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Geos13
437 Posts
Nothing special that I can see. It seems like there is only a datapoint for my opponents MMR and not my own. While investigating it turns out the entire range does appear if I turn off the average 5 games option. I included the data in case you wanted to see and pictures of the problem. Gamelog: + Show Spoiler + 23:35:20 Game 2 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 9 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 13 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 14 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 15 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 16 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 18 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 19 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 20 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 22 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 24 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 26 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 29 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 30 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 32 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 33 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 34 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 37 Cant use data of player :537382 because his mmr is to low 23:35:20 Game 38 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 41 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 42 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 43 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 45 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 46 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 50 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 50 Cant use data of player :2257129 because his mmr is to low 23:35:20 Game 52 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 54 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 56 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 57 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 60 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 63 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 64 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 67 Cant use data of player :2053439 because his mmr is to low 23:35:20 Game 70 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 71 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 74 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 75 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 76 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 77 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 81 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 2 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 9 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 13 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 14 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 15 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 16 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 18 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 19 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 20 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 22 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 24 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 26 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 29 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 30 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 32 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 33 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 34 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 37 Cant use data of player :537382 because his mmr is to low 23:38:25 Game 38 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 41 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 42 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 43 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 45 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 46 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 50 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 50 Cant use data of player :2257129 because his mmr is to low 23:38:25 Game 52 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 54 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 56 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 57 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 60 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 63 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 64 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 67 Cant use data of player :2053439 because his mmr is to low 23:38:25 Game 70 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 71 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 74 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 75 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 76 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 77 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 81 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 Analyze: + Show Spoiler + ANALYSER Your division: US,diamond, Horner Hawk = Tier: 1 1 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Akilae Yankee = Tier: 4 2 L Opp. divisions: US,platinum, Praetor Xi = Tier: 2 3 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Akilae Yankee = Tier: 3 4 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Horner Eta = Tier: 0 5 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Corsair November = Tier: 0 6 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Horner November = Tier: 3 7 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Horner Hawk = Tier: 0 8 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Leviathan Sierra = Tier: 3 9 L Opp. divisions: US,master, Zekrath Alamo = Tier: 0 10 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Dominion Yankee = Tier: 2 11 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Sentry Epsilon = Tier: 1 12 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Gantrithor Quest = Tier: 3 13 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Zerus Upsilon = Tier: 6 14 W Opp. divisions: US,master, Koronis Nu = Tier: 0 15 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Colossus Dixie = Tier: 6 16 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Leviathan Tau = Tier: 3 17 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Nexus Romeo = Tier: 0 18 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Gantrithor Quest = Tier: 5 19 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Overlord Sigma = Tier: 6 20 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Preserver Psi = Tier: 5 21 W Opp. divisions: US,platinum, Scourge Omega = Tier: 0 22 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Corsair Hawk = Tier: 5 23 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Banshee Eta = Tier: 3 24 L Opp. divisions: US,master, Sargas Gamma = Tier: 0 25 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Horner Indigo = Tier: 5 26 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Akilae Uncle = Tier: 4 27 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Gantrithor Phi = Tier: 1 28 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Mar Sara Xi = Tier: 1 29 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Mar Sara Xi = Tier: 5 30 L Opp. divisions: US,platinum, Uraj Tango = Tier: 2 31 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Tarsonis Sierra = Tier: 3 32 L Opp. divisions: US,master, Hive Phi = Tier: 0 33 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Executor Echo = Tier: 4 34 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Banshee Chi = Tier: 2 35 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Zerus Upsilon = Tier: 2 36 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Zerus Upsilon = Tier: 1 37 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Zerus Victor = Tier: 0 38 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Zerus Gravity = Tier: 6 39 W Opp. divisions: US,platinum, Brood Lord Sigma = Tier: 0 40 W Opp. divisions: US,platinum, Tabrenus Yankee = Tier: 0 41 L Opp. divisions: US,master, Raven Mu = Tier: 0 42 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Tarsonis Zeta = Tier: 5 43 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Sentry Romeo = Tier: 5 44 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Overlord Alamo = Tier: 1 45 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Zerus Charlie = Tier: 6 46 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Gantrithor Sigma = Tier: 3 47 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Kalathi Uncle = Tier: 3 48 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Colossus Alpha = Tier: 2 49 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Gantrithor Sigma = Tier: 3 50 W Opp. divisions: US,master, Nargil Beta = Tier: 0 51 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Preserver Pepper = Tier: 1 52 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Tal’darim Lima = Tier: 5 53 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Gantrithor Phi = Tier: 3 54 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Chau Sara Victor = Tier: 4 55 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Overlord Alamo = Tier: 0 56 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Overlord Alamo = Tier: 4 57 L Opp. divisions: US,master, Felanis Epsilon = Tier: 0 58 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Mar Sara Sigma = Tier: 4 59 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Gantrithor Alamo = Tier: 6 60 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Dominion Psi = Tier: 5 61 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Akilae Mars = Tier: 2 62 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Kerrigan Phi = Tier: 0 63 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Preserver Foxtrot = Tier: 3 64 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Overlord Sigma = Tier: 4 65 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Preserver Pi = Tier: 2 66 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Sentry X-Ray = Tier: 4 67 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Kaloth Nu = Tier: 0 68 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Infestor Lambda = Tier: 1 69 W Opp. divisions: US,platinum, Shiloh Mars = Tier: 0 70 L Opp. divisions: US,platinum, Liberty Pepper = Tier: 2 71 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Executor Echo = Tier: 3 72 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Zerus Nu = Tier: 4 73 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Executor Upsilon = Tier: 0 74 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Zerus Upsilon = Tier: 4 75 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Nexus Mu = Tier: 6 76 L Opp. divisions: US,master, Nahaan Rho = Tier: 0 77 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Colossus Bravo = Tier: 5 78 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Tal’darim X-Ray = Tier: 0 79 W Opp. divisions: US,platinum, Corsair Pi = Tier: 0 80 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Corsair Hawk = Tier: 0 81 L Opp. divisions: US,platinum, Lenassa Lambda = Tier: 2 ![[image loading]](http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7081/7247438852_bc0b77a93c_m.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7227/7247438944_d3f789cd7b_m.jpg) Anyways its not really important, I was just curious. | ||
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skeldark
Germany2223 Posts
On May 22 2012 16:20 Geos13 wrote: This was the unstable version. Nothing special that I can see. It seems like there is only a datapoint for my opponents MMR and not my own. While investigating it turns out the entire range does appear if I turn off the average 5 games option. I included the data in case you wanted to see and pictures of the problem. Gamelog: + Show Spoiler + 23:35:20 Game 2 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 9 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 13 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 14 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 15 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 16 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 18 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 19 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 20 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 22 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 24 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 26 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 29 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 30 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 32 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 33 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 34 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 37 Cant use data of player :537382 because his mmr is to low 23:35:20 Game 38 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 41 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 42 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 43 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 45 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 46 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 50 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 50 Cant use data of player :2257129 because his mmr is to low 23:35:20 Game 52 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 54 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 56 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 57 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 60 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 63 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 64 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 67 Cant use data of player :2053439 because his mmr is to low 23:35:20 Game 70 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 71 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 74 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 75 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 76 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 77 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:35:20 Game 81 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 2 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 9 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 13 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 14 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 15 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 16 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 18 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 19 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 20 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 22 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 24 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 26 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 29 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 30 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 32 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 33 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 34 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 37 Cant use data of player :537382 because his mmr is to low 23:38:25 Game 38 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 41 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 42 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 43 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 45 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 46 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 50 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 50 Cant use data of player :2257129 because his mmr is to low 23:38:25 Game 52 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 54 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 56 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 57 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 60 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 63 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 64 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 67 Cant use data of player :2053439 because his mmr is to low 23:38:25 Game 70 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 71 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 74 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 75 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 76 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 77 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 23:38:25 Game 81 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 Analyze: + Show Spoiler + ANALYSER Your division: US,diamond, Horner Hawk = Tier: 1 1 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Akilae Yankee = Tier: 4 2 L Opp. divisions: US,platinum, Praetor Xi = Tier: 2 3 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Akilae Yankee = Tier: 3 4 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Horner Eta = Tier: 0 5 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Corsair November = Tier: 0 6 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Horner November = Tier: 3 7 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Horner Hawk = Tier: 0 8 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Leviathan Sierra = Tier: 3 9 L Opp. divisions: US,master, Zekrath Alamo = Tier: 0 10 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Dominion Yankee = Tier: 2 11 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Sentry Epsilon = Tier: 1 12 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Gantrithor Quest = Tier: 3 13 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Zerus Upsilon = Tier: 6 14 W Opp. divisions: US,master, Koronis Nu = Tier: 0 15 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Colossus Dixie = Tier: 6 16 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Leviathan Tau = Tier: 3 17 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Nexus Romeo = Tier: 0 18 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Gantrithor Quest = Tier: 5 19 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Overlord Sigma = Tier: 6 20 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Preserver Psi = Tier: 5 21 W Opp. divisions: US,platinum, Scourge Omega = Tier: 0 22 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Corsair Hawk = Tier: 5 23 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Banshee Eta = Tier: 3 24 L Opp. divisions: US,master, Sargas Gamma = Tier: 0 25 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Horner Indigo = Tier: 5 26 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Akilae Uncle = Tier: 4 27 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Gantrithor Phi = Tier: 1 28 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Mar Sara Xi = Tier: 1 29 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Mar Sara Xi = Tier: 5 30 L Opp. divisions: US,platinum, Uraj Tango = Tier: 2 31 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Tarsonis Sierra = Tier: 3 32 L Opp. divisions: US,master, Hive Phi = Tier: 0 33 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Executor Echo = Tier: 4 34 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Banshee Chi = Tier: 2 35 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Zerus Upsilon = Tier: 2 36 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Zerus Upsilon = Tier: 1 37 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Zerus Victor = Tier: 0 38 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Zerus Gravity = Tier: 6 39 W Opp. divisions: US,platinum, Brood Lord Sigma = Tier: 0 40 W Opp. divisions: US,platinum, Tabrenus Yankee = Tier: 0 41 L Opp. divisions: US,master, Raven Mu = Tier: 0 42 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Tarsonis Zeta = Tier: 5 43 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Sentry Romeo = Tier: 5 44 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Overlord Alamo = Tier: 1 45 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Zerus Charlie = Tier: 6 46 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Gantrithor Sigma = Tier: 3 47 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Kalathi Uncle = Tier: 3 48 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Colossus Alpha = Tier: 2 49 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Gantrithor Sigma = Tier: 3 50 W Opp. divisions: US,master, Nargil Beta = Tier: 0 51 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Preserver Pepper = Tier: 1 52 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Tal’darim Lima = Tier: 5 53 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Gantrithor Phi = Tier: 3 54 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Chau Sara Victor = Tier: 4 55 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Overlord Alamo = Tier: 0 56 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Overlord Alamo = Tier: 4 57 L Opp. divisions: US,master, Felanis Epsilon = Tier: 0 58 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Mar Sara Sigma = Tier: 4 59 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Gantrithor Alamo = Tier: 6 60 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Dominion Psi = Tier: 5 61 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Akilae Mars = Tier: 2 62 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Kerrigan Phi = Tier: 0 63 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Preserver Foxtrot = Tier: 3 64 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Overlord Sigma = Tier: 4 65 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Preserver Pi = Tier: 2 66 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Sentry X-Ray = Tier: 4 67 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Kaloth Nu = Tier: 0 68 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Infestor Lambda = Tier: 1 69 W Opp. divisions: US,platinum, Shiloh Mars = Tier: 0 70 L Opp. divisions: US,platinum, Liberty Pepper = Tier: 2 71 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Executor Echo = Tier: 3 72 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Zerus Nu = Tier: 4 73 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Executor Upsilon = Tier: 0 74 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Zerus Upsilon = Tier: 4 75 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Nexus Mu = Tier: 6 76 L Opp. divisions: US,master, Nahaan Rho = Tier: 0 77 L Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Colossus Bravo = Tier: 5 78 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Tal’darim X-Ray = Tier: 0 79 W Opp. divisions: US,platinum, Corsair Pi = Tier: 0 80 W Opp. divisions: US,diamond, Corsair Hawk = Tier: 0 81 L Opp. divisions: US,platinum, Lenassa Lambda = Tier: 2 Anyways its not really important, I was just curious. Every bug is important. thats why i put out the unstable to find stuff like this. Thanks for reporting! | ||
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Peleus
Australia420 Posts
Tested out your tool (2.2.1 Unstable). There is a bug when playing on the KR server through the TW gateway that it's trying to lookup profiles on the KO website instead of the TW one. + Show Spoiler + 18:35:13 Game 1 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 18:35:13 Game 1 Cant use data of player :270568 because his mmr is to low 18:35:13 Game: to much deviation 18:35:13 Game 2 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 18:35:13 Game 2 Cant use data of player :254817 because his mmr is to low 18:35:13 Game 3 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 18:35:13 Game 3 Cant use data of player  7769 because his mmr is to low18:35:13 Game 5 Cant use data of player :56409 because his mmr is to low 18:35:13 Game 6 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 18:35:13 Game 6 Cant use data of player :87970 because his mmr is to low 18:35:13 Game: to much deviation 18:35:13 Game 8 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 18:35:13 Game 8 Cant use data of player :207538 because his mmr is to low 18:35:13 Game 9 Cant use data of player :377049 because his mmr is to low 18:35:13 Game: to much deviation 18:35:13 Game 10 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 18:35:13 Game 10 Cant use data of player :14773 because his mmr is to low 18:35:13 Game 11 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 18:35:13 Game 11 Cant use data of player :23400 because his mmr is to low 18:35:13 Game 12 Cant use data of player :26355 because his mmr is to low 18:35:13 Game 13 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 18:35:13 Game 13 Cant use data of player :399622 because his mmr is to low 18:35:13 Game 14 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 18:35:13 Game 14 Cant use data of player :245477 because his mmr is to low 18:35:13 Game 15 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 18:35:13 Game 15 Cant use data of player  6731 because his mmr is to low18:35:13 Game 16 Cant use data of player :41377 because his mmr is to low 18:35:13 Game 17 Cant use data of player :88565 because his mmr is to low 19:33:59 Ramscanner: name1 : MiSa 19:33:59 Ramscanner: id1 : 1-1903761 19:33:59 Ramscanner: name2 : Peleus 19:33:59 Ramscanner: id2 : 2-785727 19:52:42 PREPLAYER 1: --- PLAYERSTART VALID: false --- Error_Mes: playername: 1 id: 0 playerlink: http://tw.battle.net/sc2/zh/profile/785727/2/Peleus/ server: TW league: diamond division_name: ERROR2 gamedate: ERROR mapname: ERROR totalbonuspool: 0 Wins: -9999 Looses: -9999 points: -9999 bonus: -9999 change_points: -9999 adjusted_points: -9999 offset: 0 offsetknown: false mmr: -9999 PLAYEREND 19:52:42 PREPLAYER 2: --- PLAYERSTART VALID: false --- Error_Mes: playername: 2 id: 0 playerlink: http://TW.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1903761/1/MiSa/ server: TW league: diamond division_name: ERROR2 gamedate: ERROR mapname: ERROR totalbonuspool: 0 Wins: -9999 Looses: -9999 points: -9999 bonus: -9999 change_points: -9999 adjusted_points: -9999 offset: 0 offsetknown: false mmr: -9999 PLAYEREND 19:52:42 POSTPLAYER 1: --- PLAYERSTART VALID: false --- Error_Mes: playername: Peleus id: 785727 playerlink: http://kr.battle.net/sc2/ko/profile/785727/2/Peleus/ server: KR league: diamond division_name: ERROR2 gamedate: ERROR mapname: ERROR totalbonuspool: 521 Wins: -9999 Looses: -9999 points: -9999 bonus: -9999 change_points: -9999 adjusted_points: -9999 offset: 0 offsetknown: false mmr: -9999 PLAYEREND 19:52:42 POSTPLAYER 2: --- PLAYERSTART VALID: false --- Error_Mes: playername: MiSa id: 1903761 playerlink: http://kr.battle.net/sc2/ko/profile/1903761/1/MiSa/ server: KR league: diamond division_name: ERROR2 gamedate: ERROR mapname: ERROR totalbonuspool: 521 Wins: -9999 Looses: -9999 points: -9999 bonus: -9999 change_points: -9999 adjusted_points: -9999 offset: 0 offsetknown: false mmr: -9999 PLAYEREND 19:52:42 Dataset: --- GAMESTART --- TIME: 1337680364653 VALID: false ERROR: Player1_won false --- GAMEEND --- Should be tw in all those links. | ||
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LaLuSh
Sweden2358 Posts
Not all too easy to discern why I got promoted just then. | ||
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skeldark
Germany2223 Posts
On May 22 2012 18:55 Peleus wrote: Hey mate. Tested out your tool (2.2.1 Unstable). There is a bug when playing on the KR server through the TW gateway that it's trying to lookup profiles on the KO website instead of the TW one. + Show Spoiler + 18:35:13 Game 1 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 18:35:13 Game 1 Cant use data of player :270568 because his mmr is to low 18:35:13 Game: to much deviation 18:35:13 Game 2 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 18:35:13 Game 2 Cant use data of player :254817 because his mmr is to low 18:35:13 Game 3 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 18:35:13 Game 3 Cant use data of player 7769 because his mmr is to low18:35:13 Game 5 Cant use data of player :56409 because his mmr is to low 18:35:13 Game 6 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 18:35:13 Game 6 Cant use data of player :87970 because his mmr is to low 18:35:13 Game: to much deviation 18:35:13 Game 8 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 18:35:13 Game 8 Cant use data of player :207538 because his mmr is to low 18:35:13 Game 9 Cant use data of player :377049 because his mmr is to low 18:35:13 Game: to much deviation 18:35:13 Game 10 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 18:35:13 Game 10 Cant use data of player :14773 because his mmr is to low 18:35:13 Game 11 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 18:35:13 Game 11 Cant use data of player :23400 because his mmr is to low 18:35:13 Game 12 Cant use data of player :26355 because his mmr is to low 18:35:13 Game 13 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 18:35:13 Game 13 Cant use data of player :399622 because his mmr is to low 18:35:13 Game 14 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 18:35:13 Game 14 Cant use data of player :245477 because his mmr is to low 18:35:13 Game 15 Sorry your mmr is under the demotion line! I can not tell how much exactly put in 0 18:35:13 Game 15 Cant use data of player 6731 because his mmr is to low18:35:13 Game 16 Cant use data of player :41377 because his mmr is to low 18:35:13 Game 17 Cant use data of player :88565 because his mmr is to low 19:33:59 Ramscanner: name1 : MiSa 19:33:59 Ramscanner: id1 : 1-1903761 19:33:59 Ramscanner: name2 : Peleus 19:33:59 Ramscanner: id2 : 2-785727 19:52:42 PREPLAYER 1: --- PLAYERSTART VALID: false --- Error_Mes: playername: 1 id: 0 playerlink: http://tw.battle.net/sc2/zh/profile/785727/2/Peleus/ server: TW league: diamond division_name: ERROR2 gamedate: ERROR mapname: ERROR totalbonuspool: 0 Wins: -9999 Looses: -9999 points: -9999 bonus: -9999 change_points: -9999 adjusted_points: -9999 offset: 0 offsetknown: false mmr: -9999 PLAYEREND 19:52:42 PREPLAYER 2: --- PLAYERSTART VALID: false --- Error_Mes: playername: 2 id: 0 playerlink: http://TW.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1903761/1/MiSa/ server: TW league: diamond division_name: ERROR2 gamedate: ERROR mapname: ERROR totalbonuspool: 0 Wins: -9999 Looses: -9999 points: -9999 bonus: -9999 change_points: -9999 adjusted_points: -9999 offset: 0 offsetknown: false mmr: -9999 PLAYEREND 19:52:42 POSTPLAYER 1: --- PLAYERSTART VALID: false --- Error_Mes: playername: Peleus id: 785727 playerlink: http://kr.battle.net/sc2/ko/profile/785727/2/Peleus/ server: KR league: diamond division_name: ERROR2 gamedate: ERROR mapname: ERROR totalbonuspool: 521 Wins: -9999 Looses: -9999 points: -9999 bonus: -9999 change_points: -9999 adjusted_points: -9999 offset: 0 offsetknown: false mmr: -9999 PLAYEREND 19:52:42 POSTPLAYER 2: --- PLAYERSTART VALID: false --- Error_Mes: playername: MiSa id: 1903761 playerlink: http://kr.battle.net/sc2/ko/profile/1903761/1/MiSa/ server: KR league: diamond division_name: ERROR2 gamedate: ERROR mapname: ERROR totalbonuspool: 521 Wins: -9999 Looses: -9999 points: -9999 bonus: -9999 change_points: -9999 adjusted_points: -9999 offset: 0 offsetknown: false mmr: -9999 PLAYEREND 19:52:42 Dataset: --- GAMESTART --- TIME: 1337680364653 VALID: false ERROR: Player1_won false --- GAMEEND --- Should be tw in all those links. kr is not working right now, but you have to enter your kr profile link not the one of your gateway in your profile. On May 23 2012 01:41 LaLuSh wrote: Got in today after i dropped from 1022 DMMR to 901DMMR. Was probably around ~920 when I was let in. I got to play #1 GM before the promotion. Not all too easy to discern why I got promoted just then. i will enter this data for gm europe | ||
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Raven283
Netherlands18 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + 17:25:50 MMR-Calculator 2.0.1 17:25:51 Versionchecker: Version up to date 17:25:51 FATALERROR Ramscanner dont get debug privilege 17:25:51 OK Gameobserver: running! 17:25:52 OK Timeclient: Systemtime offset: 2 sec I've tried searching in this thread but could not find a solution Things i have already done include: running Sc2gears as admin, running javaw.exe as admin and checking if JNativeCpp.ddl and JNative.jar are present. | ||
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skeldark
Germany2223 Posts
On May 24 2012 00:29 Raven283 wrote: I'm gettings this error message and I can't find a way to get rid of it. + Show Spoiler + 17:25:50 MMR-Calculator 2.0.1 17:25:51 Versionchecker: Version up to date 17:25:51 FATALERROR Ramscanner dont get debug privilege 17:25:51 OK Gameobserver: running! 17:25:52 OK Timeclient: Systemtime offset: 2 sec I've tried searching in this thread but could not find a solution Things i have already done include: running Sc2gears as admin, running javaw.exe as admin and checking if JNativeCpp.ddl and JNative.jar are present. I had 1 single guy before who had the same problem. You dont have mac do you? ah no than the gameobserver would have an error too. I try to find the other guy and find out if he found a fix. UNSTABLE 2.2.2 OUT! Hope korean account work now also improved gui and chart to make it easyer to understand. Added a little help and cleaned some functions in the code. Also adjusted the offsets for master and gm. | ||
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SDream
Brazil896 Posts
http://skeletor.jimmeh.com/mmr/MMRPlugin.zip_UNSTABLE%3Cbr/%3E%3Cbr/%3E -------------------- I am using the unstable version, and it seems I am the diamond border watcher. I am doing zig-zag at the diamond border, generally I win against plats and lose to dia. Therefore, I am an interesting guy to watch to try to find the plat<->dia offsets. The tool is really awesome, I can mass leader and don't worry with any math or profile lurking and still have this data <3 Is there a way for me to see my data only in the database? I'd like to see the numbers myself to try to confirm myseld my tier etc. The tool says I am tier2 plat, I am not sure if I am tier 1 or 2 though. | ||
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Raven283
Netherlands18 Posts
On May 24 2012 00:39 skeldark wrote: I had 1 single guy before who had the same problem. You dont have mac do you? ah no than the gameobserver would have an error too. I try to find the other guy and find out if he found a fix. No I'm running Windows 7 x64 Professional SP1 with Sc2gear 10.4 (no other plugins) and Java version 1.7 (Oracle) Without the Ramscanner it seems to be getting data from games but the MMR of myself and my opponents are always exactly the same (over 3 games now) | ||
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skeldark
Germany2223 Posts
On May 24 2012 00:49 SDream wrote: The link for the unstable version is broken in the website: -------------------- I am using the unstable version, and it seems I am the diamond border watcher. I am doing zig-zag at the diamond border, generally I win against plats and lose to dia. Therefore, I am an interesting guy to watch to try to find the plat<->dia offsets. The tool is really awesome, I can mass leader and don't worry with any math or profile lurking and still have this data <3 Is there a way for me to see my data only in the database? I'd like to see the numbers myself to try to confirm myseld my tier etc. The tool says I am tier2 plat, I am not sure if I am tier 1 or 2 though. EDIT LOL its you! the problem with your data you are a canidate of your own rule! the 73 dmmr rule ^^ Search for your id in the database The Tier calculation only work on the client. Also the newest data dont show mmr anymore, because the mmr is now calculated client site after upload ( i had to overwrite the mmr for old data because new calculation function is out) I will try to recalculate the mmr for all data before publishing next set. On May 24 2012 00:51 Raven283 wrote: No I'm running Windows 7 x64 Professional SP1 with Sc2gear 10.4 (no other plugins) and Java version 1.7 (Oracle) Without the Ramscanner it seems to be getting data from games but the MMR of myself and my opponents are always exactly the same (over 3 games now) yeah disable the ramscanner for now. No one is better than a broken one. With exact you mean on the point exact or very close. As closer the two are as better we did our job ^^ ----- EDIT: forgot : in 2.2.2 you have a value to compare your mmr to others now. The average of the last 3 real good data points. | ||
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Raven283
Netherlands18 Posts
On May 24 2012 00:57 skeldark wrote: yeah disable the ramscanner for now. No one is better than a broken one. With exact you mean on the point exact or very close. As closer the two are as better we did our job ^^ . There's a 5 point difference but what i meant is that the MMR values are staying at a constant number. Does it simply need more games? | ||
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skeldark
Germany2223 Posts
On May 24 2012 01:29 Raven283 wrote: There's a 5 point difference but what i meant is that the MMR values are staying at a constant number. Does it simply need more games? No thats how it is... Points foul you and let you think you improve all the time. But thats not true : 95% of all players reach there skill and stay there. Thats the sad truth and that s the reason blizzard invented points. To hite this basic fact from you. Also few games dont say much. You mmr dont change drastic in 1 game. | ||
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