On May 08 2012 07:13 KiLL_ORdeR wrote: Here's a great video (Second part of 2, but this is the more action packed part) of Jaedong's insance speed in first person view.
Trying to find a flash fpvod but it seems that none exist.
I know this is offtopic, but it's just amazing to me how good Tasteless used to be. There's not a single stupid joke in that entire ten minute video, he keeps doing excellent play by play commentary while throwing in strategic advice (e.g. Jaedong going lurker rather than spine, Protoss needing the gas expansions, etc.), and he just does an all-round excellent job of making the game exciting.
Also, Jaedong's FPV is unbelievable, but I'm not convinced it wouldn't be just as unbelievable in SC2.
^ Lots of sc2 people hate on tasteless and don't realize he was a much more celebrated commentator than artosis was back in sc1. It's a shame he hasn't kept the same passion in sc2 because he really is one of the most talented rts casters ever.
On May 08 2012 07:13 KiLL_ORdeR wrote: Here's a great video (Second part of 2, but this is the more action packed part) of Jaedong's insance speed in first person view.
Trying to find a flash fpvod but it seems that none exist.
I know this is offtopic, but it's just amazing to me how good Tasteless used to be. There's not a single stupid joke in that entire ten minute video, he keeps doing excellent play by play commentary while throwing in strategic advice (e.g. Jaedong going lurker rather than spine, Protoss needing the gas expansions, etc.), and he just does an all-round excellent job of making the game exciting.
Also, Jaedong's FPV is unbelievable, but I'm not convinced it wouldn't be just as unbelievable in SC2.
The crazy thing about progamer FPVODs is look at the amount of effective actions they are doing... there's no spamming at all.
On May 08 2012 07:13 KiLL_ORdeR wrote: Here's a great video (Second part of 2, but this is the more action packed part) of Jaedong's insance speed in first person view.
Trying to find a flash fpvod but it seems that none exist.
I know this is offtopic, but it's just amazing to me how good Tasteless used to be. There's not a single stupid joke in that entire ten minute video, he keeps doing excellent play by play commentary while throwing in strategic advice (e.g. Jaedong going lurker rather than spine, Protoss needing the gas expansions, etc.), and he just does an all-round excellent job of making the game exciting.
Also, Jaedong's FPV is unbelievable, but I'm not convinced it wouldn't be just as unbelievable in SC2.
On May 08 2012 08:58 rysecake wrote: ^ Lots of sc2 people hate on tasteless and don't realize he was a much more celebrated commentator than artosis was back in sc1. It's a shame he hasn't kept the same passion in sc2 because he really is one of the most talented rts casters ever.
probably because sc1 was his childhood, its what brought him to the present, he didnt get here playing sc2. sc1 probably means a lot more to him.
On May 08 2012 08:58 rysecake wrote: ^ Lots of sc2 people hate on tasteless and don't realize he was a much more celebrated commentator than artosis was back in sc1. It's a shame he hasn't kept the same passion in sc2 because he really is one of the most talented rts casters ever.
I completely agree with this. Back in BW, Tasteless was the only caster for WCG and it was really entertaining and refreshing from the Korean commentating.
On May 08 2012 07:13 KiLL_ORdeR wrote: Here's a great video (Second part of 2, but this is the more action packed part) of Jaedong's insance speed in first person view.
Trying to find a flash fpvod but it seems that none exist.
I know this is offtopic, but it's just amazing to me how good Tasteless used to be. There's not a single stupid joke in that entire ten minute video, he keeps doing excellent play by play commentary while throwing in strategic advice (e.g. Jaedong going lurker rather than spine, Protoss needing the gas expansions, etc.), and he just does an all-round excellent job of making the game exciting.
Also, Jaedong's FPV is unbelievable, but I'm not convinced it wouldn't be just as unbelievable in SC2.
Thats so true, he did a fantastic job. I want exactly this Tasteless casting the GSL. But I guess his heart is with BW so he can't really do SC2 the exact same way (plus he lacks knowledge, whereas in BW he -at least for me seemed to- know everything). Pretty sad. I find it funny how few Drones there are in this game.
Agreed. Sometimes when I watch Tasteless casting these days I wonder what people see in him, but if you go back and check out his old-school BW stuff you can tell that he used to be really fucking good. I mean, he cracked some jokes back in those days too (I remember spraying whatever it was I was drinking over my keyboard when he quipped ''Scantid - the defilers gay cousin''), but first and foremost it was all about providing high-level commentary of the game, whereas nowadays... yeh, lack of passion for the game seems the right way to put it.
On May 08 2012 01:20 ppshchik wrote: MMA did say that Zero will do best in SC2 amongst all BW pros in an interview. Him as a former BW pro who doesn not following the "Flash" bandwagon means something. Zero must have a good understanding of SC2.
I doubt SC2 TvP and TvZ really reward Flash's turtling playstyle. Flash should play SC2 protoss so he can turtle til he has 3-3 voidray colossi or something
Way to dumb down one of the best Starcraft pros. if Zero was so damn good then why was he so mediocre in BW?
Because maybe he didn't have fast enough fingers? In BW, someone can know perfectly what to do in each situation, but still lose just because he isn't fast enough. That's also why Idra thinks Stork is going to be good at SC2, he doesn't have hands as fast as the younger ones, but he has a better understanding of the game.
Flash doesn't have notably high APM, and he's the greatest player of all time. Stork is considered very slow, and is one of the best protoss players ever. Yeah, you sure can't do well in Brood War unless you're the fastest player out there.
What are you talking about?
FlaSh had an average of 320-350 apm at all stages in the game in his 2010 WCG replays.
On May 08 2012 01:20 ppshchik wrote: MMA did say that Zero will do best in SC2 amongst all BW pros in an interview. Him as a former BW pro who doesn not following the "Flash" bandwagon means something. Zero must have a good understanding of SC2.
I doubt SC2 TvP and TvZ really reward Flash's turtling playstyle. Flash should play SC2 protoss so he can turtle til he has 3-3 voidray colossi or something
Way to dumb down one of the best Starcraft pros. if Zero was so damn good then why was he so mediocre in BW?
Mediocre?? Zero has been one of the top zergs for ages. Until Soulkey/Hydra came along he was indisputably one of the top 3 zergs with JD and Effort, and even now he's a top A teamer, just one tier below the S class. After JD, Flash and Bisu, he's the one person I most look forward to seeing play SC2.
On May 08 2012 01:20 ppshchik wrote: MMA did say that Zero will do best in SC2 amongst all BW pros in an interview. Him as a former BW pro who doesn not following the "Flash" bandwagon means something. Zero must have a good understanding of SC2.
I doubt SC2 TvP and TvZ really reward Flash's turtling playstyle. Flash should play SC2 protoss so he can turtle til he has 3-3 voidray colossi or something
Way to dumb down one of the best Starcraft pros. if Zero was so damn good then why was he so mediocre in BW?
Because maybe he didn't have fast enough fingers? In BW, someone can know perfectly what to do in each situation, but still lose just because he isn't fast enough. That's also why Idra thinks Stork is going to be good at SC2, he doesn't have hands as fast as the younger ones, but he has a better understanding of the game.
Flash doesn't have notably high APM, and he's the greatest player of all time. Stork is considered very slow, and is one of the best protoss players ever. Yeah, you sure can't do well in Brood War unless you're the fastest player out there.
What are you talking about?
FlaSh had an average of 320-350 apm at all stages in the game in his 2010 WCG replays.
He means compared to say.. BaBy who gets measured at around 400 yet doesn't have nearly the same amount of success.
On May 08 2012 08:58 rysecake wrote: ^ Lots of sc2 people hate on tasteless and don't realize he was a much more celebrated commentator than artosis was back in sc1. It's a shame he hasn't kept the same passion in sc2 because he really is one of the most talented rts casters ever.
Say what ? First thing. a) tasteless is commentator , NOT analysis LIKE Artosis , thats why commentators cast in duets. TB +Appolo , Day 9 + DJ etc. b) tasteless say himself he has mega hyped love and passion for Sc2 , dont try to think for him.
Other thing.. Maby he just get older ? ,you lose some of "gaming power and enthusiasm" with years passes by..
On May 08 2012 01:20 ppshchik wrote: MMA did say that Zero will do best in SC2 amongst all BW pros in an interview. Him as a former BW pro who doesn not following the "Flash" bandwagon means something. Zero must have a good understanding of SC2.
I doubt SC2 TvP and TvZ really reward Flash's turtling playstyle. Flash should play SC2 protoss so he can turtle til he has 3-3 voidray colossi or something
Way to dumb down one of the best Starcraft pros. if Zero was so damn good then why was he so mediocre in BW?
Because maybe he didn't have fast enough fingers? In BW, someone can know perfectly what to do in each situation, but still lose just because he isn't fast enough. That's also why Idra thinks Stork is going to be good at SC2, he doesn't have hands as fast as the younger ones, but he has a better understanding of the game.
Flash doesn't have notably high APM, and he's the greatest player of all time. Stork is considered very slow, and is one of the best protoss players ever. Yeah, you sure can't do well in Brood War unless you're the fastest player out there.
What are you talking about?
FlaSh had an average of 320-350 apm at all stages in the game in his 2010 WCG replays.
Yeah that's average, but also most of his apm is involved in mindless mechanical stuff like mining up and building turrets.
Nearly every game where he had to divert his attention to 2 places or more, he just fell apart. Its more his multitasking which isn't very good, that's why he's so timing attack oriented.
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I mean, he cracked some jokes back in those days too (I remember spraying whatever it was I was drinking over my keyboard when he quipped ''Scantid - the defilers gay cousin''), but first and foremost it was all about providing high-level commentary of the game, whereas nowadays... yeh, lack of passion for the game seems the right way to put it.
