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Mentalizor
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1596 Posts
May 07 2012 11:08 GMT
#541
Flash will break SC2. Nobody will be able to keep up.
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-Kira
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
352 Posts
May 07 2012 11:15 GMT
#542
looks like i'm going to have some competition
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May 07 2012 11:18 GMT
#543
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France200 Posts
May 07 2012 11:22 GMT
#544
aMMAzinggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg

Need Flash in Sc2, in the SlayerS house :D
Watily! ♥
Deimos0
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Poland277 Posts
May 07 2012 11:24 GMT
#545
It's going to be great year for spectators :D So god finally kicks Apocalypse into overdrive, but where are the 4 Riders that should assist these events?
protect me from what I want
Demonaz
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1219 Posts
May 07 2012 11:45 GMT
#546
The internet is going to literally tear into pieces the day Flash enters his first tournament, I can't wait!
duct_TAPE
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492 Posts
May 07 2012 11:50 GMT
#547
This is a dream written in a post
"WHAT!? but I thought there was only one way in Canada!" "Yeah, and y'all went the wrong direction on it"
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
May 07 2012 12:12 GMT
#548
On May 07 2012 19:27 one-one-one wrote:
Show nested quote +

On May 07 2012 18:58 Sawamura wrote:
On May 07 2012 18:26 one-one-one wrote:
On May 07 2012 16:56 NeonFox wrote:
On May 07 2012 16:43 sluggaslamoo wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 07 2012 16:31 raga4ka wrote:
I personally am more interested in Zero and SoulKey , because Jaedong seems slumping beyond repair since 2010 (He was the undisputed best player from 2006-2009 period with Flash being second to him . He was still good in 2010 , but Flash became god in that year and Jaedong has never been the same in 2011 and 2012 ).

Flash will dominate for sure , but it would be nice to see who will be his zerg competition . In BW there was no talent better then Zero at macroing large armies and microing them to perfection . SoulKey probably is better right now then zero .



Soulkey becomes best Zerg

SC2 Fanboys: "Soulkey is proof the elephant doesn't exist, because he is better than Jaedong and wasn't good at BW"

BW elitists: *facepalm


People that don't care about drama : "More great games!"


It is not about the drama.

What separates people is the ability (willingness?) to accept the notion that BW is a great game while SC2 has the potential to be, and is becoming a great game. You can like both games...

I know that SC2 has huge problems, but it is not like SC1 didn't have any problems before Brood War. Psi storm anyone ?
WC3 Reign of Chaos was also a bit flawed.
What you have now is a situation where a lot of really solid RTS players are starting to play a new game. I think it will be interesting even for all BW zealots to study how the game play in SC2 will evolve with all these great players are switching over.

I was 14 years when Starcraft 1 was released in 1998. Before that I had played a lot of Warcraft 2. I used to carry my computer over to my friends place so we could connect them with serial cables to play WC2 vs each other , lol

How many of you BW hipster boys actually did that? How many of you remember the release of SC1 ?
For me it was such a huge thing. The game really blew my mind to the point where I thought that it would be impossible to ever make a better game.
And I maintain that this is the most bad ass intro to a video game ever.

Now I have to face all these rude people who seem to look down on me for playing Starcraft 2.

They wonder how I can bring myself to divert any time at all to "that unspeakable game that we don't mention".
It is like I have to apologize. And the undertone is that I don't understand anything about SC:BW so that they can dismiss anything I say as ignorant.

But a lot of your favourite players and casters have already switched over to Sc2 , and a lot more will follow soon.

Wouldn't it be interesting to follow SC2 to see what a beast like Flash can do with a game with a lot less retarded UI ?
He can devote more of his apm to more important stuff than trying to get his units to walk down a ramp in an orderly fashion.

This doesn't mean that you can't allow yourself to be nostalgic. All the good stuff from BW will still be available as vods.
And if there is interest by progamers, maybe some will stay and continue to provide good games for you.


Again with the nostalgia argument I don't know if you are trolling or not but you can't say it's nostalgia when the game is quite relevant as it is today in terms of high competition and skill level . If you think it's just the past than be my guess and register yourself at courage tournament and beat all this guys who have been playing this games for years and still some of them could not qualify to be best in proleague .

Do I need to carry my pc to my friends house to play lan ? What the hell ? All I needed to do was just go to my local pc bang and play broodwar with my friends and after that go for a drink . Seriously back than computers are quite bulky I am amazed that you as a 14 year old kid can carry it over you must be pretty strong !.


How many of you BW hipster boys actually did that? How many of you remember the release of SC1 ?


So if you don't recall when it is release you are not a bw fan ? I think it's quite pathetic to label people as a hipster just because fans like the old game maybe you should call cs source fans and 1.6 fans hipsters too because they just love the game and not joining in the Halo and CoD crowd after all not following new trends make you a hipster right ?

LoL at the bashing of the retarded UI let me point you to a article where ret was talking about sc2 having no micro
http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft/news/11475-ret-micro-almost-non-existent-in-starcraft-2/0
At least broodwar had units which is microable and if you are able to micro them carefully they will last as long as you can micro them . Case in point Boxer v Yellow if you recall that game where it was even made in to a highlight video on youtube .
No I am not interested in seeing Flash being a beast in sc2 what I am interested is seeing broodwar and as a kt fan maybe I will drop by tl.net a few days just to see how my team is doing in the sc2 scene .


Wouldn't it be interesting to follow SC2 to see what a beast like Flash can do with a game with a lot less retarded UI ?
He can devote more of his apm to more important stuff than trying to get his units to walk down a ramp in an orderly fashion


This statement confirms that you don't know a thing about broodwar if you think broodwar is all about fighting the AI . Seriously I can't believe it after 14 years of broodwar and you are complaining about the game AI still ? I have gotten over the minor technicalities of the game and the A.I always serve me well because I play terran and even though If I off race as protoss I feel like stork possessed me and I was able to use dragoons and massacre siege tanks after siege tank . No experience broodwar player would have bashed the game just because of few minor difficulties which could have over come by having a little patience . Sorry but I think you are a troll.



I am not a troll <3

And come on please. The UI is quite retarded. It has its charm, but I am pretty sure it takes away a lot of time for the pro players to get atound it.


You are "pretty sure"? You mean you've never taken the time to carefully watch a professional BW game to see that progamers are able to, in your own words "fight the retarded UI" and also have plenty of time to multitask and micro? Nope, didn't think so.


On May 07 2012 19:24 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2012 18:58 Sawamura wrote:
On May 07 2012 18:26 one-one-one wrote:
On May 07 2012 16:56 NeonFox wrote:
On May 07 2012 16:43 sluggaslamoo wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 07 2012 16:31 raga4ka wrote:
I personally am more interested in Zero and SoulKey , because Jaedong seems slumping beyond repair since 2010 (He was the undisputed best player from 2006-2009 period with Flash being second to him . He was still good in 2010 , but Flash became god in that year and Jaedong has never been the same in 2011 and 2012 ).

Flash will dominate for sure , but it would be nice to see who will be his zerg competition . In BW there was no talent better then Zero at macroing large armies and microing them to perfection . SoulKey probably is better right now then zero .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYHjRDNLbP8


Soulkey becomes best Zerg

SC2 Fanboys: "Soulkey is proof the elephant doesn't exist, because he is better than Jaedong and wasn't good at BW"

BW elitists: *facepalm


People that don't care about drama : "More great games!"


It is not about the drama.

What separates people is the ability (willingness?) to accept the notion that BW is a great game while SC2 has the potential to be, and is becoming a great game. You can like both games...

I know that SC2 has huge problems, but it is not like SC1 didn't have any problems before Brood War. Psi storm anyone ?
WC3 Reign of Chaos was also a bit flawed.
What you have now is a situation where a lot of really solid RTS players are starting to play a new game. I think it will be interesting even for all BW zealots to study how the game play in SC2 will evolve with all these great players are switching over.

I was 14 years when Starcraft 1 was released in 1998. Before that I had played a lot of Warcraft 2. I used to carry my computer over to my friends place so we could connect them with serial cables to play WC2 vs each other , lol

How many of you BW hipster boys actually did that? How many of you remember the release of SC1 ?
For me it was such a huge thing. The game really blew my mind to the point where I thought that it would be impossible to ever make a better game.
And I maintain that this is the most bad ass intro to a video game ever.

Now I have to face all these rude people who seem to look down on me for playing Starcraft 2.

They wonder how I can bring myself to divert any time at all to "that unspeakable game that we don't mention".
It is like I have to apologize. And the undertone is that I don't understand anything about SC:BW so that they can dismiss anything I say as ignorant.

But a lot of your favourite players and casters have already switched over to Sc2 , and a lot more will follow soon.

Wouldn't it be interesting to follow SC2 to see what a beast like Flash can do with a game with a lot less retarded UI ?
He can devote more of his apm to more important stuff than trying to get his units to walk down a ramp in an orderly fashion.

This doesn't mean that you can't allow yourself to be nostalgic. All the good stuff from BW will still be available as vods.
And if there is interest by progamers, maybe some will stay and continue to provide good games for you.


Again with the nostalgia argument I don't know if you are trolling or not but you can't say it's nostalgia when the game is quite relevant as it is today in terms of high competition and skill level . If you think it's just the past than be my guess and register yourself at courage tournament and beat all this guys who have been playing this games for years and still some of them could not qualify to be best in proleague .

Do I need to carry my pc to my friends house to play lan ? What the hell ? All I needed to do was just go to my local pc bang and play broodwar with my friends and after that go for a drink . Seriously back than computers are quite bulky I am amazed that you as a 14 year old kid can carry it over you must be pretty strong !.


How many of you BW hipster boys actually did that? How many of you remember the release of SC1 ?


So if you don't recall when it is release you are not a bw fan ? I think it's quite pathetic to label people as a hipster just because fans like the old game maybe you should call cs source fans and 1.6 fans hipsters too because they just love the game and not joining in the Halo and CoD crowd after all not following new trends make you a hipster right ?

LoL at the bashing of the retarded UI let me point you to a article where ret was talking about sc2 having no micro
http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft/news/11475-ret-micro-almost-non-existent-in-starcraft-2/0
At least broodwar had units which is microable and if you are able to micro them carefully they will last as long as you can micro them . Case in point Boxer v Yellow if you recall that game where it was even made in to a highlight video on youtube .
No I am not interested in seeing Flash being a beast in sc2 what I am interested is seeing broodwar and as a kt fan maybe I will drop by tl.net a few days just to see how my team is doing in the sc2 scene .


Wouldn't it be interesting to follow SC2 to see what a beast like Flash can do with a game with a lot less retarded UI ?
He can devote more of his apm to more important stuff than trying to get his units to walk down a ramp in an orderly fashion


This statement confirms that you don't know a thing about broodwar if you think broodwar is all about fighting the AI . Seriously I can't believe it after 14 years of broodwar and you are complaining about the game AI still ? I have gotten over the minor technicalities of the game and the A.I always serve me well because I play terran and even though If I off race as protoss I feel like stork possessed me and I was able to use dragoons and massacre siege tanks after siege tank . No experience broodwar player would have bashed the game just because of few minor difficulties which could have over come by having a little patience . Sorry but I think you are a troll.


Sorry but the only reason BW is harder than SC2 is because of how outdated it is. UI, workers, control groups etc etc. If Blizzard had just made a 3D BW instead of SC2 with all the features that SC2 had then you would probably still complain. You need to accept that Blizzard can't just make a game in 2010+ with shitty graphics/UI just because a minority of people with nostalgia/tunnel-vision want it to be so.


Oh god here comes the retarded nostalgia arguments again.

On May 07 2012 19:24 ProxyKnoxy wrote:

Well I see a tremendous irony in BW fans calling SC2 'no skill', and then saying they are going to LoL.


Want to know what's really ironic? SC2 fans hating on LoL for having "no skill", and then turning around and bashing BW for being a "mindless button-mashing game".

On May 07 2012 19:24 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
Let's listen to one person's opinion and call it fact, sure. How the fuck can SC2 have no micro? I don't think it's possible for a game like SC2 to have no micro. Marines/blink stalkers/force fields etc. In a few situations due to SC2 being faster paced micro is harder than in BW and require faster reaction times... sorry but that's a fact. If you have watched a single Korean Terran in SC2 then you would realise how wrong you are.


And if you had watched 1 BW game then you would realize that the micro in the two games are on different orders of magnitude.

On May 07 2012 19:24 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
Btw can't wait for BW pros to switch to SC2 gonna be so great!!!!!!!!! Can't wait to see Bisu micro a collossus


/facepalm
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Supercilium
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden308 Posts
May 07 2012 12:13 GMT
#549
Anyone remember ForGG? j/k hoping Flash will own!
sinjitsu_
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia196 Posts
May 07 2012 12:17 GMT
#550
The day is finally arriving. All my Brood War hero's switching over and i get to watch them rise in a new game. These are the things i love about esports, esp BW and SC2, the stories. There's bound to be massive rivalry's between BW players in the switch and current SC2 pros. So much content its mind blowing to think about !!! Just think about the sc1 teams aswell clashing with sc2 teams. Life is is great guys, Starcraft forever <3
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
May 07 2012 12:22 GMT
#551
Trying not to let my hopes up, sc2 really doesn't allow for players of this level to show what really differentiates them from your average top Korean but at least we should see a lot less mistakes than we currently do.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
May 07 2012 12:25 GMT
#552
On May 07 2012 21:22 NotSorry wrote:
Trying not to let my hopes up, sc2 really doesn't allow for players of this level to show what really differentiates them from your average top Korean but at least we should see a lot less mistakes than we currently do.


Isn't Flash some kind of RTS prodigy? If he can play the game consistently as good as MVP (before his wrists exploded) or better, then he can maintain a 70%+ win rate.
MMA: The true King of Wings
Weson
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Iceland1032 Posts
May 07 2012 12:25 GMT
#553
On May 07 2012 21:22 NotSorry wrote:
Trying not to let my hopes up, sc2 really doesn't allow for players of this level to show what really differentiates them from your average top Korean but at least we should see a lot less mistakes than we currently do.

Time will tell.
"!@€#" - as some guy said
kAelle_sc
Profile Joined April 2011
287 Posts
May 07 2012 12:35 GMT
#554
flash please play zerg please!
It's all about the journey, not the outcome.
DreamChaser
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1649 Posts
May 07 2012 12:38 GMT
#555
On May 07 2012 21:25 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2012 21:22 NotSorry wrote:
Trying not to let my hopes up, sc2 really doesn't allow for players of this level to show what really differentiates them from your average top Korean but at least we should see a lot less mistakes than we currently do.


Isn't Flash some kind of RTS prodigy? If he can play the game consistently as good as MVP (before his wrists exploded) or better, then he can maintain a 70%+ win rate.


That image in my head of MVP's wrist just blowing up while playing sc2 had me laughing a bit.
Plays against every MU with nexus first.
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
May 07 2012 13:02 GMT
#556
On May 07 2012 21:25 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2012 21:22 NotSorry wrote:
Trying not to let my hopes up, sc2 really doesn't allow for players of this level to show what really differentiates them from your average top Korean but at least we should see a lot less mistakes than we currently do.


Isn't Flash some kind of RTS prodigy? If he can play the game consistently as good as MVP (before his wrists exploded) or better, then he can maintain a 70%+ win rate.


Ironically Flash maintained a 75% win rate when his own wrist exploded.
Come play Android Netrunner - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409008
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
May 07 2012 13:09 GMT
#557
On May 07 2012 22:02 sluggaslamoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2012 21:25 SarcasmMonster wrote:
On May 07 2012 21:22 NotSorry wrote:
Trying not to let my hopes up, sc2 really doesn't allow for players of this level to show what really differentiates them from your average top Korean but at least we should see a lot less mistakes than we currently do.


Isn't Flash some kind of RTS prodigy? If he can play the game consistently as good as MVP (before his wrists exploded) or better, then he can maintain a 70%+ win rate.


Ironically Flash maintained a 75% win rate when his own wrist exploded.


Wrist explosion is surprisingly popular in Korea.
MMA: The true King of Wings
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
May 07 2012 13:13 GMT
#558
On May 07 2012 22:09 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2012 22:02 sluggaslamoo wrote:
On May 07 2012 21:25 SarcasmMonster wrote:
On May 07 2012 21:22 NotSorry wrote:
Trying not to let my hopes up, sc2 really doesn't allow for players of this level to show what really differentiates them from your average top Korean but at least we should see a lot less mistakes than we currently do.


Isn't Flash some kind of RTS prodigy? If he can play the game consistently as good as MVP (before his wrists exploded) or better, then he can maintain a 70%+ win rate.


Ironically Flash maintained a 75% win rate when his own wrist exploded.


Wrist explosion is surprisingly popular in Korea.

If only oov didn't have his wrists explode...
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
one-one-one
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden551 Posts
May 07 2012 13:27 GMT
#559
On May 07 2012 21:25 Weson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2012 21:22 NotSorry wrote:
Trying not to let my hopes up, sc2 really doesn't allow for players of this level to show what really differentiates them from your average top Korean but at least we should see a lot less mistakes than we currently do.

Time will tell.


Time has spoken.
As QXC stated about the skill celing in SC2 vs BW:
"How can you even say something like that?
The skill ceiling in both games is infinitely high for a human player"

Who told you that NotSorry ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1BFY4R7IIP4#t=1710s
tombola
Profile Joined September 2011
41 Posts
May 07 2012 13:29 GMT
#560
I am going to jizz myself when Flash is going to international tournaments. He is the god of videogames
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