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zhurai
United States5660 Posts
On May 02 2012 12:32 zokj wrote: are kespa players allowed to stream? iirc jaedong/etc weren't allowed to stream with hiya (at least from what I remember on that topic?), but was allowed to play games with hiya that hiya could stream.... but they couldn't even stream on afreeca so I somewhat doubt it? oo | ||
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below66
United States1761 Posts
A lot of pressure on blizzard now, if they deliver, the scene will blossom. | ||
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Dontkillme
Korea (South)806 Posts
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OopsOopsBaby
Singapore3425 Posts
On May 02 2012 12:32 zokj wrote: are kespa players allowed to stream? there is no incentive for the players to stream even if kespa allows them to. they dont need the money from streaming and they rather not leak their plays. | ||
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Looms
United States4624 Posts
On May 02 2012 13:06 OopsOopsBaby wrote: there is no incentive for the players to stream even if kespa allows them to. they dont need the money from streaming and they rather not leak their plays. you do know that you can pros can stream simply to gain more fans, interact with current fans, etc. also, i think a lot of people in the scene recognize that most pros dont leak secret builds or strategies while streaming, rather they use a lot of generic builds and plays. | ||
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SolHeiM
Sweden1264 Posts
On May 02 2012 13:34 Looms wrote: you do know that you can pros can stream simply to gain more fans, interact with current fans, etc. also, i think a lot of people in the scene recognize that most pros dont leak secret builds or strategies while streaming, rather they use a lot of generic builds and plays. It's not so much that top pro gamers doesn't want to reveal their secret strategies, but they don't want to reveal their weaknesses. If Jaedong started streaming and Flash could just hop on his stream along with the rest of the KT team and in detail just break down his play and analyze every single weakness from Jaedong's own PoV, then Flash wouldn't just win, he would absolutely demolish Jaedong because he knows exactly what to do. | ||
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Serpico
4285 Posts
On May 02 2012 13:34 Looms wrote: you do know that you can pros can stream simply to gain more fans, interact with current fans, etc. also, i think a lot of people in the scene recognize that most pros dont leak secret builds or strategies while streaming, rather they use a lot of generic builds and plays. I doubt they would have the time or energy to stream ontop of their practice schedule, which will be different than what other teamhouses do now. | ||
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Looms
United States4624 Posts
On May 02 2012 13:56 SolHeiM wrote: It's not so much that top pro gamers doesn't want to reveal their secret strategies, but they don't want to reveal their weaknesses. If Jaedong started streaming and Flash could just hop on his stream along with the rest of the KT team and in detail just break down his play and analyze every single weakness from Jaedong's own PoV, then Flash wouldn't just win, he would absolutely demolish Jaedong because he knows exactly what to do. oh i forgot to mention this part in my first post. i was talking about the lower level players still affiliated with KeSPA having the ability the stream, not TBLS, because those players have obvious reasons not to stream as you already mentioned. | ||
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OptimusYale
Korea (South)1005 Posts
On May 02 2012 11:54 JOJOsc2news wrote: Here's the official hybrid integration process and solution: Instead of playing alternating sets of BW and SC2, players will play matches between BW and SC2. We believe this will make for interesting games and bring both communities closer together. Unit sounds and music will differ for each player and we will implement a new observer UI that allows the spectator or referee to choose between BW or SC2 music. Our talks about this have all been fluff and rainbows until Dustin Browder insisted on adding at least 4 sets of Destructible Rocks on each tournament map. We gave him a large 4 piece puzzle to color in and as you all can see, he finished it while we agreed on the terms we presented you today. We cannot tell you details or dates but we love us, each other and you! More information soon to come when Dustin is done coloring the huge broken heart that says "BW Fans". Thank you! ; ) This is so awesome hahaha! Will foreign players be allowed to compete freely in the new tournaments or will it just be korean based? | ||
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Jinsho
United Kingdom3101 Posts
On May 02 2012 13:56 SolHeiM wrote: It's not so much that top pro gamers doesn't want to reveal their secret strategies, but they don't want to reveal their weaknesses. If Jaedong started streaming and Flash could just hop on his stream along with the rest of the KT team and in detail just break down his play and analyze every single weakness from Jaedong's own PoV, then Flash wouldn't just win, he would absolutely demolish Jaedong because he knows exactly what to do. Considering SC2 replays of those pros would instantly become available on all websites ever, nd anyone playing them on ladder would immediately see at least their build orders, there really isn't that much of a difference if they do stream, interact with their fans, gain more recognition with the current SC2 fanbase, and increase their brand. | ||
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Siffer
United States467 Posts
On May 02 2012 12:50 zhurai wrote: iirc jaedong/etc weren't allowed to stream with hiya (at least from what I remember on that topic?), but was allowed to play games with hiya that hiya could stream.... but they couldn't even stream on afreeca so I somewhat doubt it? oo I think with blizzard acting as puppet master, KeSPA will have to loosen its grip on their players. I think kespa players streaming is a good possibility; however, I doubt many of them will stream even if they have permission. Hell, I doubt many of them will even ladder. kespa pros have such a sick practice regiment that there isn't any time for leisure ladder time. | ||
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dark_dragoon10
United States299 Posts
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bhfberserk
Canada390 Posts
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windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
On May 02 2012 14:50 Siffer wrote: I think with blizzard acting as puppet master, KeSPA will have to loosen its grip on their players. I think kespa players streaming is a good possibility; however, I doubt many of them will stream even if they have permission. Hell, I doubt many of them will even ladder. kespa pros have such a sick practice regiment that there isn't any time for leisure ladder time. Lol, why do people act as if Blizzard is the stronger partner in this? KESPA is backed by corporations that are worth much more than Vivendi. Blizzard won't be doing any puppeteering soon | ||
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McFeser
United States2458 Posts
On May 02 2012 15:21 windsupernova wrote: Lol, why do people act as if Blizzard is the stronger partner in this? KESPA is backed by corporations that are worth much more than Vivendi. Blizzard won't be doing any puppeteering soon Vivendi is like 18 billion and is larger than EA. So this is actually a sincere question - how much money is backing KESPA? | ||
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Siffer
United States467 Posts
On May 02 2012 15:21 windsupernova wrote: Lol, why do people act as if Blizzard is the stronger partner in this? KESPA is backed by corporations that are worth much more than Vivendi. Blizzard won't be doing any puppeteering soon Blizzard owns the intellectual property. I can pretty much guarantee that blizzard is the reason why the switch to SC2 is 100%. You can have all the money in the world at your disposal; however, if you don't own a product, you are severely limited with what you can do with it. | ||
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OopsOopsBaby
Singapore3425 Posts
On May 02 2012 15:39 Siffer wrote: Blizzard owns the intellectual property. I can pretty much guarantee that blizzard is the reason why the switch to SC2 is 100%. You can have all the money in the world at your disposal; however, if you don't own a product, you are severely limited with what you can do with it. kespa gave the players their jobs as progamers. | ||
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Groog
127 Posts
On May 02 2012 15:24 McFeser wrote: Vivendi is like 18 billion and is larger than EA. So this is actually a sincere question - how much money is backing KESPA? Samsung is pretty big | ||
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Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
As are the Telecom companies backing KT and SKT1. There's a lot of money backing KESPA. | ||
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Siffer
United States467 Posts
On May 02 2012 15:42 OopsOopsBaby wrote: kespa gave the players their jobs as progamers. And without a game to play, they are no longer progamers. | ||
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