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On April 23 2012 23:29 Denzil wrote:
There's a reason he cut it to 10$
you cannot justify 20$ for a 8 player tournament not even with the best players
you can't justify it for winter arena either
Dreamhack outshone MLG hard this weekend and I think it's evident.
everything MLG did Dreamhack did better and dreamhack was free
Except you know, MLG delivered 3 evenings/nights of high level play while DH day one and the first half of day 2 were an absolute snoozefest. Lopsided match-ups intertwined with endless breaks. I watched a full weekend of high level SC2. You can't say the same if you only watched DH, which had a rather poor field of competitors (look its Polt again!). I enjoyed the DH finals and watched MKP vs DRG right after.
I also paid 15 USD for both arena 1 and arena 2, which works out at 11 euros and I consider it completely worth it. It's fine that you don't, but stop bitching about it.
(Not to mention that DRG's reaction when he won plus the 2v2 tournament made it worth paying for)
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I don't like it at all. Bad reading , bad wrinting, unprofesional comentaries (just a personal preference i guess), and TOTALY biased. Unecessary constant praising towards Di Giovanni; plus unecessary comparison with Dreamhack trying to show MLG as superior when that is, as i said, totally pointless. This is just my opinion.
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On April 24 2012 00:09 Scootaloo wrote:
Sundance should just admit his "PPV or kill esports" speech was just a massive lie and revert back to the old format, apart from some die hards that are dumb enough to believe him noone will continue buying his guilt tickets, the tournament was a dissapointment and as far as I'm concerned he's lost all credibility and sympathy.
You're completely mixing 2 things that have nothing to do with each other.
The fact that this PPV MLG Spring Arena wasn't appreciated that much by the community was because:
- DreamHack happened on the same WE with an equivalent level of play
- The 8 players invited are basically all code S players most people can see compete in the GSL, where they are at their best
- You had to pay to watch this event when for free you could get another equivalent event (in term of quality)
Now when Sundance said "PPV or kill esports" what fanboys failed to understand is that he is basically saying "Hey, we are part of big corporations like most company that organize eSports events, and these corporations are starting to ask for some returns on their investments".The amount of viewers on a free stream, or the amount of Downloaded VoDs isn't what is gonna pay for all their expenses in order to provide nice events for little fanboys to watch. At some point they need to start making decent profits if they want to keep existing. So when he says"PPV or kill esports" he's basically saying that if an organization like MLG doesn't start to make profits (not talking about billions of dollars here), it's basically gonna shut-down. And all little fanboys will only have their eyes to cry because there will be no more PPV or Free content since there will be no content at all.
How come eSports fans are the only one considering they DESERVE to have a free entertainment 100% of the time? It's a business like any other in case you haven't noticed. And this business needs to run like any other. And in order to run, it needs profit.
Not more complicated than that.
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Did we watch the same tournaments mini wheats? MLG's players where all suffering from massive jetlag, the games where at a lower standard then you would see at a GSL, not to mention that the games where all matchups we'd seen thousands of times before, the only real storyline was MKP DRG, a storyline we already saw like 3 times before, and to be honest, both of those arrogant anti-social nerds just bore and annoy me at this point, no DRG, please don't show us you're happy, or we'll forget you're a robot.
Not to mention that you need a crowd for something like this, it just creates so much life and excitement and energizes the casters, even Tastosis looked half asleep most of the time.
On the other hand, I suppose it's good at least 1 person thinks this Spring arena wasn't a complete waste of time.
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How could you give an event with absolutely no audience other than staff/press/players a near perfect score? No audience basically removes the entire reason why sports are so successful in the first place. People want to see the action in front of them and experience it with other like-minded individuals. That alone takes it out of the running of "best" event. It was a solid production from a technical standpoint(not talking about stream access) but, zero audience removes the hype and feeling of an important event entirely. At least when considering "best".
I watched both events and the contrast couldn't be more obvious. At Dreamhack you had Thorzain winning it in front a huge crowd in an arena and being celebrated like a Champion. At MLG Arena you had Artosis and Tasteless trying to hype up this win for DRG that was in an office while a handful of people clapped in the background. Yeah...
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On April 24 2012 00:37 Emix_Squall wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2012 00:09 Scootaloo wrote:
Sundance should just admit his "PPV or kill esports" speech was just a massive lie and revert back to the old format, apart from some die hards that are dumb enough to believe him noone will continue buying his guilt tickets, the tournament was a dissapointment and as far as I'm concerned he's lost all credibility and sympathy. You're completely mixing 2 things that have nothing to do with each other. The fact that this PPV MLG Spring Arena wasn't appreciated that much by the community was because: - DreamHack happened on the same WE with an equivalent level of play - The 8 players invited are basically all code S players most people can see compete in the GSL, where they are at their best - You had to pay to watch this event when for free you could get another equivalent event (in term of quality) Now when Sundance said "PPV or kill esports" what fanboys failed to understand is that he is basically saying "Hey, we are part of big corporations like most company that organize eSports events, and these corporations are starting to ask for some returns on their investments".The amount of viewers on a free stream, or the amount of Downloaded VoDs isn't what is gonna pay for all their expenses in order to provide nice events for little fanboys to watch. At some point they need to start making decent profits if they want to keep existing. So when he says"PPV or kill esports" he's basically saying that if an organization like MLG doesn't start to make profits (not talking about billions of dollars here), it's basically gonna shut-down. And all little fanboys will only have their eyes to cry because there will be no more PPV or Free content since there will be no content at all. How come eSports fans are the only one considering they DESERVE to have a free entertainment 100% of the time? It's a business like any other in case you haven't noticed. And this business needs to run like any other. And in order to run, it needs profit. Not more complicated than that.
I believe Dreamhack and IPL prove this theory completely wrong, if you want massive profits you're not in the right business, and Sundance with his villa is most likely too greedy to understand this, IPL nor Dreamhack make massive profits, but Sundance does need to because either he's terrible at dealing with his investors i.e. promising things he shouldn't or is like I stated before just lying his ass off to get more money out of a pretty young target audience.
And we deserve free entertainment because we paid for the game and watch adds, if that combined with a ticket price is enough money to hold amazing tourneys like Dreamhack and IPL, why should MLG be any different? Because he wanted to make a permanent studio/new office?
I'm guessing because you paid money for MLG and therefore need to believe in Sundances reasoning because otherwise you esentially threw away 10 bucks.
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On April 24 2012 00:37 Emix_Squall wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2012 00:09 Scootaloo wrote:
Sundance should just admit his "PPV or kill esports" speech was just a massive lie and revert back to the old format, apart from some die hards that are dumb enough to believe him noone will continue buying his guilt tickets, the tournament was a dissapointment and as far as I'm concerned he's lost all credibility and sympathy. You're completely mixing 2 things that have nothing to do with each other. The fact that this PPV MLG Spring Arena wasn't appreciated that much by the community was because: - DreamHack happened on the same WE with an equivalent level of play - The 8 players invited are basically all code S players most people can see compete in the GSL, where they are at their best - You had to pay to watch this event when for free you could get another equivalent event (in term of quality) Now when Sundance said "PPV or kill esports" what fanboys failed to understand is that he is basically saying "Hey, we are part of big corporations like most company that organize eSports events, and these corporations are starting to ask for some returns on their investments".The amount of viewers on a free stream, or the amount of Downloaded VoDs isn't what is gonna pay for all their expenses in order to provide nice events for little fanboys to watch. At some point they need to start making decent profits if they want to keep existing. So when he says"PPV or kill esports" he's basically saying that if an organization like MLG doesn't start to make profits (not talking about billions of dollars here), it's basically gonna shut-down. And all little fanboys will only have their eyes to cry because there will be no more PPV or Free content since there will be no content at all. How come eSports fans are the only one considering they DESERVE to have a free entertainment 100% of the time? It's a business like any other in case you haven't noticed. And this business needs to run like any other. And in order to run, it needs profit. Not more complicated than that.
The reason people are hating so much is because MLG is the only tournament applying this policy to its events.
With the exception of Gomtv of course. But they have undoubtedly the highest calibre of players and thus can monetise their high quality product which is in high demand. Whereas MLG does not offer much more than many other foreigner events which are provided free of charge without any outcry from their CEO's saying they need more money.
To say that if MLG ceases to exist then the same fate awaits SC2 e-sports is a fallacy.
When in fact, this would increase revenue for the other tournament organisers thus consolidating the scene into a more malleable entity. So I say bring on the downfall of MLG!
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On April 24 2012 00:51 Scootaloo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2012 00:37 Emix_Squall wrote:On April 24 2012 00:09 Scootaloo wrote:
Sundance should just admit his "PPV or kill esports" speech was just a massive lie and revert back to the old format, apart from some die hards that are dumb enough to believe him noone will continue buying his guilt tickets, the tournament was a dissapointment and as far as I'm concerned he's lost all credibility and sympathy. You're completely mixing 2 things that have nothing to do with each other. The fact that this PPV MLG Spring Arena wasn't appreciated that much by the community was because: - DreamHack happened on the same WE with an equivalent level of play - The 8 players invited are basically all code S players most people can see compete in the GSL, where they are at their best - You had to pay to watch this event when for free you could get another equivalent event (in term of quality) Now when Sundance said "PPV or kill esports" what fanboys failed to understand is that he is basically saying "Hey, we are part of big corporations like most company that organize eSports events, and these corporations are starting to ask for some returns on their investments".The amount of viewers on a free stream, or the amount of Downloaded VoDs isn't what is gonna pay for all their expenses in order to provide nice events for little fanboys to watch. At some point they need to start making decent profits if they want to keep existing. So when he says"PPV or kill esports" he's basically saying that if an organization like MLG doesn't start to make profits (not talking about billions of dollars here), it's basically gonna shut-down. And all little fanboys will only have their eyes to cry because there will be no more PPV or Free content since there will be no content at all. How come eSports fans are the only one considering they DESERVE to have a free entertainment 100% of the time? It's a business like any other in case you haven't noticed. And this business needs to run like any other. And in order to run, it needs profit. Not more complicated than that. I believe Dreamhack and IPL prove this theory completely wrong, if you want massive profits you're not in the right business, and Sundance with his villa is most likely too greedy to understand this, IPL nor Dreamhack make massive profits, but Sundance does need to because either he's terrible at dealing with his investors i.e. promising things he shouldn't or is like I stated before just lying his ass off to get more money out of a pretty young target audience. And we deserve free entertainment because we paid for the game and watch adds, if that combined with a ticket price is enough money to hold amazing tourneys like Dreamhack and IPL, why should MLG be any different? Because he wanted to make a permanent studio/new office? I'm guessing because you paid money for MLG and therefore need to believe in Sundances reasoning because otherwise you esentially threw away 10 bucks.
IIRC IPL is in the red already
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On April 24 2012 00:04 Kiichol wrote:
Biased article is biased.
I like to think of the Starcraft community as a generally intelligent one. A community which appreciates critical and rational write-ups on events detailing the story lines of the players and the events with a large chunk of hype thrown in.
From start to finish while I was reading this article all I kept thinking was how much was this guy paid to write this stuff?
I didn't get to watch MLG. I watched DreamHack instead. So I was hoping to read an article providing me with relevant information on how the tournament was. All I got for my efforts was a confused demeanor and an ominous suspicion of the author.
This sums is it up for me. DH was great and I loved it from the start to the end.
And about this whole concept of MLG arenas without crowd,press and other things...I would rather watch HomeStory cup any given day, and not to mention other tournaments who have this "life" in them. Hell, if we exclude GSL, HSC and DH are my favorite tournaments.
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On April 24 2012 00:22 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Crap article, but MLG was pretty good this time around. Definitely the better event this weekend.
I'd say if it weren't for Thorzain's win and the electrifying crowd, Dreamhack had nothing on MLG.....aside from most obviously being free -_-
Incontrol interviews in that circle in the middle of the crowd was already better then anything I seen from MLG now or ever!!
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On April 24 2012 00:37 Emix_Squall wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2012 00:09 Scootaloo wrote:
Sundance should just admit his "PPV or kill esports" speech was just a massive lie and revert back to the old format, apart from some die hards that are dumb enough to believe him noone will continue buying his guilt tickets, the tournament was a dissapointment and as far as I'm concerned he's lost all credibility and sympathy. How come eSports fans are the only one considering they DESERVE to have a free entertainment 100% of the time? It's a business like any other in case you haven't noticed. And this business needs to run like any other. And in order to run, it needs profit.
People keep saying this but a significant part of the audience is willing to pay for quality SC2, just look at how many people subscribe to GSL. However, if you are already paying ~20$ every month for GS(T)L and you have the choice between 2 similar products but one is free and one you have to pay 10 or 20$ for then it's a pretty easy choice I think. It a matter of how good a product is compared to what else is out there besides if it's actually worth the money.
I would also be a lot more inclined to support MLG by paying for gold/HQ/whatever if they actually had a LQ free stream.
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On April 24 2012 00:39 Scootaloo wrote:
Did we watch the same tournaments mini wheats? MLG's players where all suffering from massive jetlag, the games where at a lower standard then you would see at a GSL, not to mention that the games where all matchups we'd seen thousands of times before, the only real storyline was MKP DRG, a storyline we already saw like 3 times before, and to be honest, both of those arrogant anti-social nerds just bore and annoy me at this point, no DRG, please don't show us you're happy, or we'll forget you're a robot.
Not to mention that you need a crowd for something like this, it just creates so much life and excitement and energizes the casters, even Tastosis looked half asleep most of the time.
On the other hand, I suppose it's good at least 1 person thinks this Spring arena wasn't a complete waste of time.
I don't think you did :D
The games were fantastic. May have only had 8 players and no crowd, but they did a lot with a little. I strongly stand by if Thorzain had not been a boss and gone all the way, Dreamhack would have been totally forgettable. If I'm not mistaken,
wasn't the progression of the tournament something like:
First round:
1 notable player and 2 unknowns
Second round:
1 notable player 1 unknown, and like 2 lesser known/lower-tiered EU pros
Third Round:
Here's where it actually starts to look like a decent EU tournament with Koreans
Playoffs:
Decent lineup, but still not that impressive. Nerchio vs Monster was great, Ret managed to upset Genius, and as already mentioned, Thorzain.
Even if you can call the Koreans(and huk -_-) jet lagged at the Arena, a round robin + playoffs of those 8 yielded games that were LEAGUES above Dreamhack in quality. Ask yourself, if it were Monster vs Polt in the finals, would you really have given a fuck? Would the crowd have exploded when Polt inevitably won?
Also, what's up with the "boring and anti-social nerds" comment. What were you expecting? I think MKP and DRG have more personality than most Koreans pros if anything. Seems like they actually make an effort to connect with their fans as well.
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On April 24 2012 00:51 Scootaloo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2012 00:37 Emix_Squall wrote:On April 24 2012 00:09 Scootaloo wrote:
Sundance should just admit his "PPV or kill esports" speech was just a massive lie and revert back to the old format, apart from some die hards that are dumb enough to believe him noone will continue buying his guilt tickets, the tournament was a dissapointment and as far as I'm concerned he's lost all credibility and sympathy. You're completely mixing 2 things that have nothing to do with each other. The fact that this PPV MLG Spring Arena wasn't appreciated that much by the community was because: - DreamHack happened on the same WE with an equivalent level of play - The 8 players invited are basically all code S players most people can see compete in the GSL, where they are at their best - You had to pay to watch this event when for free you could get another equivalent event (in term of quality) Now when Sundance said "PPV or kill esports" what fanboys failed to understand is that he is basically saying "Hey, we are part of big corporations like most company that organize eSports events, and these corporations are starting to ask for some returns on their investments".The amount of viewers on a free stream, or the amount of Downloaded VoDs isn't what is gonna pay for all their expenses in order to provide nice events for little fanboys to watch. At some point they need to start making decent profits if they want to keep existing. So when he says"PPV or kill esports" he's basically saying that if an organization like MLG doesn't start to make profits (not talking about billions of dollars here), it's basically gonna shut-down. And all little fanboys will only have their eyes to cry because there will be no more PPV or Free content since there will be no content at all. How come eSports fans are the only one considering they DESERVE to have a free entertainment 100% of the time? It's a business like any other in case you haven't noticed. And this business needs to run like any other. And in order to run, it needs profit. Not more complicated than that. I believe Dreamhack and IPL prove this theory completely wrong, if you want massive profits you're not in the right business, and Sundance with his villa is most likely too greedy to understand this, IPL nor Dreamhack make massive profits, but Sundance does need to because either he's terrible at dealing with his investors i.e. promising things he shouldn't or is like I stated before just lying his ass off to get more money out of a pretty young target audience. And we deserve free entertainment because we paid for the game and watch adds, if that combined with a ticket price is enough money to hold amazing tourneys like Dreamhack and IPL, why should MLG be any different? Because he wanted to make a permanent studio/new office? I'm guessing because you paid money for MLG and therefore need to believe in Sundances reasoning because otherwise you esentially threw away 10 bucks.
I'm not talking about massive profits and I never did, if you read me carefully, you'll see I wrote "decent" which is a totally different thing. It is obvious eSports is not the kind of business you become rich with. Everyone knows that ...
As far as the comparison with DH and IPL goes, I won't even acknowledge what you said considering these are totally different products that have nothing to do with MLG in terms of the way they operate all year long (one hosts a few major events in Europe and has no league to operate all year long, and the other one offers at the very best 2 major live events a year ...)
Now, talking about how "because you paid the game you deserve to have eSports for free" .... I'm just stunned. How does the fact of paying the game have ANYTHING to do with watching eSports? I play football (the real one with feet involved) and subscribed for a license in my club, should I ask free tickets for all FC Barcelona (or any other major team) games because of that?
I don't need to believe in Sundance reasoning when it perfectly makes sense from a business point of view. But nowadays people tend to see money as such a monster to get rid of, that they can't even connect with the economical reality of the world we live in. If you consider money to be that useless, give me yours, I'll PM you with my datas so that you can make the transfer ASAP. I'll be glad to free you from that burden ...
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On April 24 2012 00:58 zaii wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2012 00:51 Scootaloo wrote:On April 24 2012 00:37 Emix_Squall wrote:On April 24 2012 00:09 Scootaloo wrote:
Sundance should just admit his "PPV or kill esports" speech was just a massive lie and revert back to the old format, apart from some die hards that are dumb enough to believe him noone will continue buying his guilt tickets, the tournament was a dissapointment and as far as I'm concerned he's lost all credibility and sympathy. You're completely mixing 2 things that have nothing to do with each other. The fact that this PPV MLG Spring Arena wasn't appreciated that much by the community was because: - DreamHack happened on the same WE with an equivalent level of play - The 8 players invited are basically all code S players most people can see compete in the GSL, where they are at their best - You had to pay to watch this event when for free you could get another equivalent event (in term of quality) Now when Sundance said "PPV or kill esports" what fanboys failed to understand is that he is basically saying "Hey, we are part of big corporations like most company that organize eSports events, and these corporations are starting to ask for some returns on their investments".The amount of viewers on a free stream, or the amount of Downloaded VoDs isn't what is gonna pay for all their expenses in order to provide nice events for little fanboys to watch. At some point they need to start making decent profits if they want to keep existing. So when he says"PPV or kill esports" he's basically saying that if an organization like MLG doesn't start to make profits (not talking about billions of dollars here), it's basically gonna shut-down. And all little fanboys will only have their eyes to cry because there will be no more PPV or Free content since there will be no content at all. How come eSports fans are the only one considering they DESERVE to have a free entertainment 100% of the time? It's a business like any other in case you haven't noticed. And this business needs to run like any other. And in order to run, it needs profit. Not more complicated than that. I believe Dreamhack and IPL prove this theory completely wrong, if you want massive profits you're not in the right business, and Sundance with his villa is most likely too greedy to understand this, IPL nor Dreamhack make massive profits, but Sundance does need to because either he's terrible at dealing with his investors i.e. promising things he shouldn't or is like I stated before just lying his ass off to get more money out of a pretty young target audience. And we deserve free entertainment because we paid for the game and watch adds, if that combined with a ticket price is enough money to hold amazing tourneys like Dreamhack and IPL, why should MLG be any different? Because he wanted to make a permanent studio/new office? I'm guessing because you paid money for MLG and therefore need to believe in Sundances reasoning because otherwise you esentially threw away 10 bucks. IIRC IPL is in the red already
According to David Ting on the Executives 6 weeks ago this is not the case anymore, you're source is most likely outdated.
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On April 23 2012 23:29 Denzil wrote:
There's a reason he cut it to 10$
you cannot justify 20$ for a 8 player tournament not even with the best players
you can't justify it for winter arena either
Dreamhack outshone MLG hard this weekend and I think it's evident.
everything MLG did Dreamhack did better and dreamhack was free
Also completely ignoring the fact he kept the similar event to the first winter arena (32 players, qualifiers) at the same price; $20.
This event was cheaper because it was a lesser event, no other reason.
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Miniwheats, wrong again, perhaps you just don't know that much players (you're American so it makes sense you don't know shit about the EU scene) but Dreamhack had a fantastic line up, perhaps they didn't have that many Koreana but they didn't either at the Dreamhack at the huge stadium that Hero won, yet for many people that is the most memorable and biggest tourney ever.
And the crowd would have gone crazy for a lot of other people as well, Genius pulling in a toss win, Ret finally getting a really big win or even Polt, remember, this is not some shitty MLG or IPL with american audiences.
And the boring an antisocial comment was still pretty accurate, you can bitch about it being am unfair comparison but Thorzain looked an acted ecstatic, same with most Koreans in front of a big audience, the biggest thing MLG completely failed in.
And you say MLG was leagueas above Dreamhack in quality, bullshit, MLG players where all jetlagged, playing tons of buildor/coinflip craft, especially day 1 was atrocious.
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I can't believe some of the posts in this thread. I didn't watch MLG Arena but Dreamhack was only interesting because of the finals. Sure, in terms of storyline Dreamhack was great, but storyline is mostly important to people that don't follow the scene closely and need some 'drama'. And calling MKP and DRG antisocial robots? Yeah, someone doesn't follow the korean scene at all..
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On April 24 2012 01:03 Kotreb wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2012 00:04 Kiichol wrote:
Biased article is biased.
I like to think of the Starcraft community as a generally intelligent one. A community which appreciates critical and rational write-ups on events detailing the story lines of the players and the events with a large chunk of hype thrown in.
From start to finish while I was reading this article all I kept thinking was how much was this guy paid to write this stuff?
I didn't get to watch MLG. I watched DreamHack instead. So I was hoping to read an article providing me with relevant information on how the tournament was. All I got for my efforts was a confused demeanor and an ominous suspicion of the author. This sums is it up for me. DH was great and I loved it from the start to the end. And about this whole concept of MLG arenas without crowd,press and other things...I would rather watch HomeStory cup any given day, and not to mention other tournaments who have this "life" in them. Hell, if we exclude GSL, HSC and DH are my favorite tournaments.
Completely agree. I see no reason to support MLG when they're providing a worse service than other organizations and tournament events are providing for free. I'm less interested in MLG events than ever because of the changes they've implemented. I truly hope their numbers are in decline and they'll realize they've done far more harm than good. I don't see how we can expand the scene when you put up walls for new comers.
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On April 24 2012 01:40 Scootaloo wrote:
Miniwheats, wrong again, perhaps you just don't know that much players (you're American so it makes sense you don't know shit about the EU scene) but Dreamhack had a fantastic line up, perhaps they didn't have that many Koreana but they didn't either at the Dreamhack at the huge stadium that Hero won, yet for many people that is the most memorable and biggest tourney ever.
And the crowd would have gone crazy for a lot of other people as well, Genius pulling in a toss win, Ret finally getting a really big win or even Polt, remember, this is not some shitty MLG or IPL with american audiences.
And the boring an antisocial comment was still pretty accurate, you can bitch about it being am unfair comparison but Thorzain looked an acted ecstatic, same with most Koreans in front of a big audience, the biggest thing MLG completely failed in.
And you say MLG was leagueas above Dreamhack in quality, bullshit, MLG players where all jetlagged, playing tons of buildor/coinflip craft, especially day 1 was atrocious.
The statement "shitty MLG or IPL with American audiences" was incredibly unnecessary..
Remember that you as a European may be biased towards European events as much as American's may be biased towards their own events.
Also remember that this thread is not a "MLG vs DreamHack" debate.
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I dont know what games you were watching, when you say that MLG games were leagues better than DH. Did you watch day 1 of MLG? I was shocked how bad most of the games were. Literally half of the games day 1 were 1 base vs 1 base..
Now, looking at the names of the players at the respective tournaments, I think we can all agree that MLG had a bit better players at the very top (MKP/DRG?), but the games were, imo, not really living up to the hype. As big of a fan of MKP I am, I cant help but think he played rather poorly in the finals. He made alot of mistakes that he usually dont make - being very impatient in some games. This is likely due to the fact they most of them were jetlagged, but I also feel like a couple of them didnt want to show strats that they planned for GSL matches coming up next week.
All in all I like the analysis crew and the casters at MLG. But the technical problems and the smaller number of players/no audience coupled with the fact that the last games are played at 3-5 in the morning here in Europe makes me wonder why anyone in my timezone would bother paying for events like these in the future, especially when its played on the same weekend as another major event.
Regarding numbers on how many viewers they had; Just looking at the LR threads here on TL is a clear indication that not that many watched the event. IIRC all threads had sub 100 pages of comments, which is comparable to 1 day of GSL code S round of 32 groups (4 players) when nothing spectacular is happening (no foreigners or superstars playing).
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