EPTWill "Hating a certain Race" ever go away? - Page 8
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
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The KY
United Kingdom6252 Posts
On April 17 2012 17:41 MethodSC wrote: I hate the other 2 races because I play my race. This has nothing to with with them personally and it's not about balance. I play my race you play yours. We're natural enemies. Get over it. Except we're really not enemies in any way because of what race we pick because anyone of any race is a potential opponent on ladder. And what race you play need not have any bearing on what players you support. You say it like it's perfectly rational; it isn't. There's no reason to feel any animosity towards the other races simply because you didn't pick them. This thread is so fucking weird, there are so many people going 'hell no, hating things is good for the game! I like hatred!' Dafuq. | ||
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EmilA
Denmark4618 Posts
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FirstGear
Australia185 Posts
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Zrana
United Kingdom698 Posts
In my experience its a lot more rare for zerg and terran to hate on each other than vs protoss. I believe this is because of how the zvt matchup feels to play. For example as a Z, i can respect a T who does clever postioning, multitasking with drops and cool marine splitting. I reckon T feels that Z is not that easy to play either, we have a lot of macro stuff to cope with while responding to various threats and positioning our armies. However in ZvP it feels like you're constantly working a lot harder to keep up with the toss. Zerg has to get that hatchery down, Zerg has to know what he's doing and how to respond, Zerg has to stop those proxy pylons going down. Protoss just has to follow a build with a race that's much easier to macro with. Don't manage to block the hatch? Doesn't matter to you. Don't get that pylon down? Build one somewhere else. And that's just the first 8 minutes. After that, if you made some macro mistakes or scouted him wrongly you will just die straight up to a single timing attack (probably an all-in on ladder). PvZ can feel equally strugglebear for the toss. Try to execute this build you saw your favourite player do. Miss a forcefield. Die to mass roach. Try the build again. Oh he went muta and I didn't see it coming. GG. I don't play T but from casts etc it kinda looks like it's either win or lose from a timing attack or the toss gets to 200 and rolls you. So the point of this - Are players just whining or is it actually that there's just a problem with protoss? (not balance, just playstyle). | ||
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klicken
Sweden206 Posts
On April 17 2012 17:12 Monsen wrote: Will enmity between (certain) football clubs ever go away? I don't really think that's a good analogy. The race hate is like if all keepers hated the strikers because they are OP and do all the goals and the strikers hates the midfielders because they think that they are easy to play and requires no skill. | ||
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Joefish
Germany314 Posts
But overall this is what makes it more entertaining for me, especially as a spectator. Sure, threatening somebody for real is not cool. bm is just to celebrate your win or just make him fucking leave. And I don't think anybody really hates a race. It's just random bashing. Deep in their heart they know they played bad and need to let steam off somehow. If you wanna witness hatred watch alliance vs horde.. | ||
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VoO
Germany278 Posts
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Xxio
Canada5565 Posts
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tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
On April 17 2012 17:29 snowbird wrote: I don't understand this thread. Hating Terran is part of the fun. Word! | ||
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Jakalo
Latvia2350 Posts
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NDDseer
Australia204 Posts
At the very least, if you rage at someone playing random on ladder, then you need to think about how that player is at your (approximate) skill level playing all three races and is therefore at least as good at your main race as you are. Plus a ton better at the others. Maybe you say they play "cheesy" or something as an excuse for your clear inadequacy in this regard (likely along with scouting, strategy counter knowledge and micro), if random has such an unfair advantage no ones stopping you queueing up with it. Same argument goes for playing just one race, if another race is so imbalanced and "easy" then you just change races and get lots of wins, easy right? Its been said many times, people raging are either just looking for an excuse for their own poor play (there's plenty of pros who play at the top level with every race) or take Starcraft way too seriously and need to look at improving the rest of their life. | ||
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Iatrik
Germany159 Posts
Right now, the game feels like: T>Z>P>T to me. So as a protoss player, i will simply hate zergs. Zergs will hate terrans. Terrans will hate protoss. When the 1-1-1 was still very strong & popular, it didn't broke PvT.. But it made it very easy to win as terran compared to a protoss defending it. As long as this 'unfair' feelings exist, people will always hate. | ||
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ShakaZu.Sc2
United States131 Posts
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-Exalt-
United States972 Posts
On April 17 2012 18:24 VoO wrote: Hating Blizzard that they made Protoss the way they are. I've never seen a deserved win by a Protoss player in the thousands of games I played. Yes, I hate Protoss because it helps me mend my enlarged-ego after I lose. I do kind of hate the players though I won't admit it. fix'd that for you. and the phrase "Deserved win" is utter bullshit made up by players like IdrA who can't stomach the fact they got outplayed. | ||
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Typhoon1789
Australia292 Posts
When i play zerg, i hate going against another zerg. When i plat toss, i hate playing against a terran. When i play terran i hate going against a terran. For me, its just my weakst matchups i hate. I play all races. I do BM peopel for doing allins, but its just cause i like a solid game, no gimmicky shit. | ||
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paradoxOO9
United Kingdom1123 Posts
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MockHamill
Sweden1798 Posts
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
On April 17 2012 17:47 Yorbon wrote: I play zerg, almost no one bms in my experience (on eu) (except for one other zerg, to who i started talking. ) You must've never played me then  I totally hate zerg a-movers and always will | ||
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VoO
Germany278 Posts
On April 17 2012 19:20 AegiS_ wrote: fix'd that for you. and the phrase "Deserved win" is utter bullshit made up by players like IdrA who can't stomach the fact they got outplayed. master's toss - twitch.tv/Exalt_ Not biased at all. FTFY. Sorry how many games did it take you to became Master with Toss? I did in 64 games with a 80% winrate. So much hard work, all these turtling and all-inning. > VoO > Master Protoss/Zerg > HM/GM Terran I guess there were times Protoss deserved to win because I didn't react properly but since Master league onwards... Nope, not a single game was won by a noticable skill difference. Please continue your pathetic attempts to counter reality. Let me continue my argument structure with: Master/GM distribution, ladder winrates, ladder race distribution, game length winrates, progamer opinions (BeastyQT, MarineKingPrime, Jinro, ...) play length and dominant ladder strategies: PvZ 1/2 base all-in or turtle a-click, PvT 1 base all-in or 20 minute turtle a-click | ||
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