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almart
Profile Joined November 2011
United States114 Posts
April 16 2012 20:24 GMT
#21
Great site to find top level replays and analyse replays thanks a lot!
“To go wrong in one's own way is better then to go right in someone else's” -Fyodor Dostoyevsky
ShadesofGraylin
Profile Joined April 2012
United States32 Posts
April 18 2012 13:28 GMT
#22
On April 16 2012 12:32 DeceiverSC2 wrote:
I'm learning the basis of programming so I would be of no help to you although I think that if you had form of open source you could save some money and see some really cool shit be introduced.


All of the base level information for his stats (like worker events for WWPM and frame by frame unit selections for Active Army) are provided by sc2reader. If you wanted to help ggtracker out with new, awesome analysis you could do so by adding those functionalities to the open source library. If you were really interested you can PM me about how to get started.

I'm sure if David had all the hard work done for him he'd think about picking the feature up in his own codebase.

I think rather than open sourcing the website itself it would be more useful for him to contribute back some of his analysis techniques to the community where they could potentially be improved upon. He's already contributed in the way of bug reports and liberal attribution (thanks!).

There are probably case studies for open sourcing the development of a web application but in general it seems like it'd be a lot of effort for relatively little gain. drop.sc published their code base a while back (which was awesome) but they didn't seem to really gain anything from the substantial effort it probably involved.
Maintainer: sc2reader, http://github.com/GraylinKim/sc2reader
Snuggles
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1865 Posts
April 18 2012 18:42 GMT
#23
Jeez are you guys working on the site right now or something? I keep getting an "Application Error" thingy-ma-bob.
MrTng
Profile Joined September 2010
69 Posts
April 18 2012 19:15 GMT
#24
Isn't the functionality of this website completely redundant due to the widely used Sc2Gears? What does this provide that Sc2Gears doesnt? Not saying you should stop developing, just wondering what's the point.
Nego
Profile Joined June 2011
United States15 Posts
April 18 2012 19:42 GMT
#25
uploaded like 40 reps and only 5 showed up...site having issues?
"If I Fall 6 Times I Will Get Up 7"
dsjoerg
Profile Joined January 2012
United States384 Posts
April 18 2012 23:36 GMT
#26
Hi, the site had problems earlier today, everything is working normally now. Thanks for the heads-up and sorry for the trouble.

Regarding sc2gears, I expect that sc2gears and ggtracker will evolve into quite distinct products.

The vision for ggtracker is to be an easy-to-use self-coaching tool, an automated coaching tool, and the best way for people to share replays. We'd like to give players explicit guidance about what they should work on to improve their game. Also, I hope for ggtracker to be useful to the community as a source of aggregate statistics and help us all do the moneyball thing.

sc2gears is wonderful at what it does and what it is, no point in making an sc2gears clone.

Currently, we do provide some things that sc2gears doesn't:
  • active army graph
  • worker waves per minute tracking and graph
  • comparison of your stats to the average of others in your league
  • easy sharing of your matches -- each match is simply a link


much respect for sc2gears! it has rightfully earned a permanent place in the scene.
card-carrying grubby fan. developer of GGTracker.
alQahira
Profile Joined June 2011
United States511 Posts
April 19 2012 14:30 GMT
#27
Could you add the total army supply to the active army strength? Easy enough to calculate based on the unit numbers.

Thanks!
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
April 19 2012 14:35 GMT
#28
Will definitely have to test this out! Cheers.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
dsjoerg
Profile Joined January 2012
United States384 Posts
April 19 2012 16:08 GMT
#29
alQahira, thanks for the suggestion. it would indeed be easy to calculate, however the harder problem is how to make room for it on the screen! I suppose I could just make the font size smaller but if I keep returning to that as the solution to the problems... <sigh> web design is hard.

anyway that's my problem not yours! thanks for the suggestion, and we'll figure out a way to do it.
card-carrying grubby fan. developer of GGTracker.
Nego
Profile Joined June 2011
United States15 Posts
April 19 2012 21:59 GMT
#30
Site is working fine now and like u mentioned it does have some stuff sc2gears doesn't and i like it keep it up nice work!!
"If I Fall 6 Times I Will Get Up 7"
robaq
Profile Joined December 2011
Poland186 Posts
April 20 2012 12:47 GMT
#31
Is there a way to upload multiple replays at once? The popup says that i can do that, but i can select only one. I'm using opera, dunno if it is in any way connected.
Omg BW is back | DB: dotabuff.com/players/83694874 | MAL: myanimelist.net/animelist/robaq
dsjoerg
Profile Joined January 2012
United States384 Posts
April 20 2012 13:41 GMT
#32
Yes robaq, I just confirmed myself that multiple-upload isn't working on Opera

It totally works on Chrome, Safari and Firefox though!

Sorry for the inconvenience. Speaking of uploads, one of the most common requests is for automatic upload. Several people have nearly finished auto-uploaders, so hopefully we'll be able to work with one of those when they are finished.
card-carrying grubby fan. developer of GGTracker.
alcaras
Profile Joined July 2010
United States67 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-21 00:18:56
April 21 2012 00:13 GMT
#33
Just uploaded a ton of replays and analyzed them:
http://ggtracker.com/players/142555?map=&type=&race=zerg

I'm a Platinum zerg.

WWPM seems seriously broken for zerg -- I'm getting 1.2 worker waves per minute, which puts me below the 1.3 wwpm for Bronze league. Now, I generally make all my workers all at once after the early game, so it's probably getting filtered by the anti-spam window.

Browsing players by WWPM http://ggtracker.com/players?order_by=wwpm shows it's almost entirely protoss and zerg, with a few oddball exceptions such as FXOqxc (registering as zerg for some reason) and EGIdra (off of only 4 games, most short).

Also, I tried uploading over 600 replays at once and couldn't get it to start using the Upload button, but dragging and dropping worked. Stable build of Chrome on Windows 7. Not sure if the upload succeeded. I see "605 matches" when I search for myself, but only 162 matches are actually listed on my profile page.
http://subcreation.net/ http://twitch.tv/alcaras/
dsjoerg
Profile Joined January 2012
United States384 Posts
April 21 2012 02:36 GMT
#34
alcaras, thanks for the feedback.

you raise several good points which we'll fix in future versions of ggtracker.

regarding wwpm, we'll show stats per race separately, so that you can compare your wwpm to other zergs by league. i believe the stats will show that higher-level zergs do have higher wwpm. however, several people have pointed out that wwpm matters less for zerg and i tend to agree.

the 162 matches listed on your profile page are the ones that ggtracker could parse completely -- the ones for which it could determine the winner, the apm and the wwpm. the other 443 are probably older matches from pre-1.4, which ggtracker is not yet able to parse.

thanks for trying ggtracker! we're looking forward to fixing the problems you noted and making it truly useful for you.
card-carrying grubby fan. developer of GGTracker.
dsjoerg
Profile Joined January 2012
United States384 Posts
December 25 2012 04:17 GMT
#35
I've been adding things to GGTracker, so perhaps it's best to revive this thread and make it the permanent home for GGTracker news and discussion?


Here's the latest: for Xmas I made an experiment, a new toy for you to play with.

Now, when you review a replay in GGTracker, you can instantly see where the player cameras were at any point in the game.

Example: here's a match I played a few days ago: http://ggtracker.com/matches/541971

Hover your mouse over the army chart, and the minimap will show you where the player cameras were at that point in the game.

It'll look something like this:
[image loading]


This new feature helps me remember what was going on at that point in the game (without having to lose 3-4 minutes going back and watching the replay again).

I'm not sure if this is awesome or just cute. It was fun to build

You can upload a replay to GGTracker.com and try it yourself... give it a go & let me know what you think!
card-carrying grubby fan. developer of GGTracker.
ManicMarine
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia409 Posts
December 25 2012 04:37 GMT
#36
Looks good, you should update the OP with this.
Manic by name, Manic by nature.
sCCrooked
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1306 Posts
December 25 2012 05:40 GMT
#37
This looks wonderful and its a great tool. Thank you for keeping up on this I'm gonna subscribe :D
Enlightened in an age of anti-intellectualism and quotidian repetitiveness of asinine assumptive thinking. Best lycan guide evar --> "Fixing solo queue all pick one game at a time." ~KwarK-
Bippzy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1466 Posts
December 25 2012 06:48 GMT
#38
So how would this tool work vs camera lock maphacks? Could this make detection easier or is it utterly pointless?
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Xanbatou
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States805 Posts
December 25 2012 06:48 GMT
#39
do you still need help with development? I have ruby on rails experience and wouldn't mind helping out if there is something interesting to do.
dsjoerg
Profile Joined January 2012
United States384 Posts
December 25 2012 13:38 GMT
#40
On December 25 2012 15:48 Bippzy wrote:
So how would this tool work vs camera lock maphacks? Could this make detection easier or is it utterly pointless?


This tool would let you quickly see that the camera was locked, without having to watch the replay.
card-carrying grubby fan. developer of GGTracker.
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