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SirPsychoMantis
United States180 Posts
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dsjoerg
United States384 Posts
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Spaceboy
United Kingdom220 Posts
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dsjoerg
United States384 Posts
Congratulations to all!
Battle.net can take a while to update, so if you're a GGTracker user and your promotion isn't listed here, let me know and I'll add it. ps I got promoted to Gold myself  I was on a 90% winning streak for a while there | ||
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InfCereal
Canada1483 Posts
Also, my account won't authenticate. | ||
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Larkin
United Kingdom7149 Posts
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dsjoerg
United States384 Posts
On January 14 2013 02:49 InfCereal wrote: Hey, can you add the inject percent to the match screen along with any other info available on the match list, but not in the details? Also, my account won't authenticate. OK, we got your account sorted out. Good idea about the inject %, we'll do it! | ||
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InfCereal
Canada1483 Posts
On January 14 2013 03:32 dsjoerg wrote: OK, we got your account sorted out. Good idea about the inject %, we'll do it! Thanks a bunch! Is the spending quotient thing really still relevent? I find I have much higher SQ than I should. | ||
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dsjoerg
United States384 Posts
On January 14 2013 06:22 InfCereal wrote: Thanks a bunch! Is the spending quotient thing really still relevent? I find I have much higher SQ than I should. Good question. Everyone has their opinion, but here are the facts:
What I'd like to investigate is how much SQ / Spending Skill matters. In order to do that, we need to measure a player's other skills, such as Scouting, Harassment, Defending, Countering, Micro, and then we can put a relative weighting on each of them. It's a big project!  | ||
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dsjoerg
United States384 Posts
I find I have much higher SQ than I should. Sounds like you've got your On average, Masters league players have Master's league Spending Skill. I investigated that in this comment on the thread "Spending Quotient Revisited". | ||
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Genie1
Canada332 Posts
The last 1v1 game I played was 6 months ago lol | ||
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dsjoerg
United States384 Posts
On January 14 2013 07:38 Genie1 wrote: Your website should make sure that duplicate uploads are not possible because I just made the mistake of uploading the same folder three times because your website was having issues with my browser. I don't know if you guys could wipe all my replays so that I can properly upload them. Duplicate replays are automatically handled! Not to worry  | ||
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KirA_TheGreaT
France203 Posts
Then i clicked the 1v1 button | ||
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InfCereal
Canada1483 Posts
On January 14 2013 07:25 dsjoerg wrote: Sounds like you've got your On average, Masters league players have Master's league Spending Skill. I investigated that in this comment on the thread "Spending Quotient Revisited". I'm barely mid-master with a spending kill of high GM, GM recently. Hence my skepticism. | ||
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dsjoerg
United States384 Posts
I'm barely mid-master with a spending kill of high GM, GM recently. Hence my skepticism. Masters league players have a wide variety of Spending Skill. Spending is important, but it's just one part of the game and not all the skills are held by all players to the same degree. You might have great spending but bad micro, or vice-versa. I just pulled our data for players who are ranked Masters 1v1 who have at least 30 1v1 Ladder games in GGTracker. The following data shows the distribution of Spending Skill for these players. You'll see that most of them, 107 of them, have Masters level spending, as you'd expect. But some has GM level spending, some have Diamond spending and below. Here are the raw stats. The left column is a Spending Skill level, where 0 is bronze average, and 6 is GM average. The right column is the # of Masters players who have that average Spending Skill. 0.50000 1 1.75000 1 2.00000 2 2.25000 2 2.50000 10 2.75000 9 3.00000 18 3.25000 23 3.50000 33 3.75000 43 4.00000 42 4.25000 75 4.50000 83 4.75000 98 5.00000 107 5.25000 94 5.50000 84 5.75000 91 6.00000 62 6.25000 45 6.50000 10 6.75000 4 Bear in mind that 6.0 is grandmaster average spending, so someone can get higher than a 6 if their average SQ is better than grandmaster average. The row for 5.0 are players with average spending skill between 5.0 and 5.25 -- so Masters average and slightly above average. ps. Is it cool to share the identities of individual players of interest here? I'm inclined to say No, it's not cool, unless the player gives permission. But maybe someone can persuade us that it's OK. | ||
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InfCereal
Canada1483 Posts
On January 14 2013 09:24 dsjoerg wrote: Masters league players have a wide variety of Spending Skill. Spending is important, but it's just one part of the game and not all the skills are held by all players to the same degree. You might have great spending but bad micro, or vice-versa. I just pulled our data for players who are ranked Masters 1v1 who have at least 30 1v1 Ladder games in GGTracker. The following data shows the distribution of Spending Skill for these players. You'll see that most of them, 107 of them, have Masters level spending, as you'd expect. But some has GM level spending, some have Diamond spending and below. Here are the raw stats. The left column is a Spending Skill level, where 0 is bronze average, and 6 is GM average. The right column is the # of Masters players who have that average Spending Skill. 0.50000 1 1.75000 1 2.00000 2 2.25000 2 2.50000 10 2.75000 9 3.00000 18 3.25000 23 3.50000 33 3.75000 43 4.00000 42 4.25000 75 4.50000 83 4.75000 98 5.00000 107 5.25000 94 5.50000 84 5.75000 91 6.00000 62 6.25000 45 6.50000 10 6.75000 4 Bear in mind that 6.0 is grandmaster average spending, so someone can get higher than a 6 if their average SQ is better than grandmaster average. The row for 5.0 are players with average spending skill between 5.0 and 5.25 -- so Masters average and slightly above average. ps. Is it cool to share the identities of individual players of interest here? I'm inclined to say No, it's not cool, unless the player gives permission. But maybe someone can persuade us that it's OK. Interesting. Feel free to share my identity if you need to, I don't care. | ||
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dsjoerg
United States384 Posts
Interesting. Feel free to share my identity if you need to, I don't care. Cool! You're winning 60% of your 1v1 Ladder matches lately, so whatever you're doing is working I imagine people reading this thread would like to see the profiles of players that are in Masters despite having only Gold-level Spending Skill. However, I'm not sure if it's appropriate for GGTracker to disclose that without the player's explicit permission. We could add that sort of thing as an advanced-search feature on GGTracker, but I wonder if players would reasonably object to that. One thing we definitely _won't_ do is allow people to conduct detailed research on their opponents without permission. You could imagine a system where you enter a player's name and see stats about their typical builds. I think people would rightfully object to that sort of thing unless it was opt-in. So, I don't know exactly where to draw the line. Maybe the line is that sorting/searching by things that don't give you game-tilting intel about an opponent's behavior are OK. But before I do something like that I'd like the community to weigh in a bit on the pros and cons and fairness of it. | ||
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dsjoerg
United States384 Posts
On January 14 2013 02:49 InfCereal wrote: Hey, can you add the inject percent to the match screen along with any other info available on the match list, but not in the details? OK, it's in! Just for you buddy Example: http://ggtracker.com/matches/950206 You'll see the inject % in the title of the inject chart. | ||
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aidosae
Germany183 Posts
http://ggtracker.com/players/575781 Maybe you can get some interesting points from it. | ||
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InfCereal
Canada1483 Posts
On January 14 2013 21:29 aidosae wrote: Here is my profile for anyone interested. http://ggtracker.com/players/575781 Maybe you can get some interesting points from it. Your injects are impressive. | ||
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