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SirPsychoMantis
Profile Joined December 2011
United States180 Posts
December 29 2012 20:25 GMT
#41
Does ggtracker work with HotS? I tried to upload a replay but it didn't seem to go through.
Zerg #1
dsjoerg
Profile Joined January 2012
United States384 Posts
December 30 2012 00:46 GMT
#42
Not yet! Planning to have that done by end of January, or sooner if a few GGTracker Pro users request it.
card-carrying grubby fan. developer of GGTracker.
Spaceboy
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom220 Posts
January 01 2013 22:08 GMT
#43
That's awesome news! I'm experimenting with The Staircase in HotS but it's really tricky to work out how good my macro's actually been, so this should be super useful when it's compatible :D
I am terrible at this game!
dsjoerg
Profile Joined January 2012
United States384 Posts
January 03 2013 17:18 GMT
#44
Presenting the Honor Roll:
Congratulations to all!
  • EvergreenOB Terran promoted to Silver
  • TrolTure Terran promoted to Silver
  • Marsupilamyh Terran promoted to Silver
  • Putanginamo Terran promoted to Silver
  • JJThompson Protoss promoted to Gold
  • Driver Terran promoted to Gold
  • uncriss Terran promoted to Gold
  • ykn Terran promoted to Platinum
  • Daddypooch Protoss promoted to Platinum
  • runeliger Terran promoted to Platinum
  • Omk Protoss promoted to Platinum
  • CZCuckoo Zerg promoted to Diamond
  • Obsession Zerg promoted to Diamond
  • ShaPeLesS Terran promoted to Diamond

Battle.net can take a while to update, so if you're a GGTracker user and your promotion isn't listed here, let me know and I'll add it.

ps I got promoted to Gold myself I was on a 90% winning streak for a while there
card-carrying grubby fan. developer of GGTracker.
InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-13 17:51:52
January 13 2013 17:49 GMT
#45
Hey, can you add the inject percent to the match screen along with any other info available on the match list, but not in the details?

Also, my account won't authenticate.
Cereal
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
January 13 2013 17:59 GMT
#46
Dat feel when your spending skill is GM :3
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
dsjoerg
Profile Joined January 2012
United States384 Posts
January 13 2013 18:32 GMT
#47
On January 14 2013 02:49 InfCereal wrote:
Hey, can you add the inject percent to the match screen along with any other info available on the match list, but not in the details?

Also, my account won't authenticate.


OK, we got your account sorted out. Good idea about the inject %, we'll do it!
card-carrying grubby fan. developer of GGTracker.
InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
January 13 2013 21:22 GMT
#48
On January 14 2013 03:32 dsjoerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 02:49 InfCereal wrote:
Hey, can you add the inject percent to the match screen along with any other info available on the match list, but not in the details?

Also, my account won't authenticate.


OK, we got your account sorted out. Good idea about the inject %, we'll do it!


Thanks a bunch!


Is the spending quotient thing really still relevent?

I find I have much higher SQ than I should.
Cereal
dsjoerg
Profile Joined January 2012
United States384 Posts
January 13 2013 22:21 GMT
#49
On January 14 2013 06:22 InfCereal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 03:32 dsjoerg wrote:
On January 14 2013 02:49 InfCereal wrote:
Hey, can you add the inject percent to the match screen along with any other info available on the match list, but not in the details?

Also, my account won't authenticate.


OK, we got your account sorted out. Good idea about the inject %, we'll do it!


Thanks a bunch!


Is the spending quotient thing really still relevent?

I find I have much higher SQ than I should.



Good question. Everyone has their opinion, but here are the facts:
  • Higher-league players have higher average SQ than lower-league players: http://ggtracker.com/spending_skill_stats
  • All other things being equal, if your SQ / Spending Skill is better, then you will have more stuff than your opponent


What I'd like to investigate is how much SQ / Spending Skill matters. In order to do that, we need to measure a player's other skills, such as Scouting, Harassment, Defending, Countering, Micro, and then we can put a relative weighting on each of them. It's a big project!
card-carrying grubby fan. developer of GGTracker.
dsjoerg
Profile Joined January 2012
United States384 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-13 22:26:20
January 13 2013 22:25 GMT
#50
I find I have much higher SQ than I should.


Sounds like you've got your macro spending nailed down and it's time to worry about other parts of the game?

On average, Masters league players have Master's league Spending Skill. I investigated that in this comment on the thread "Spending Quotient Revisited".
card-carrying grubby fan. developer of GGTracker.
Genie1
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada333 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-13 22:46:58
January 13 2013 22:38 GMT
#51
Your website should make sure that duplicate uploads are not possible because I just made the mistake of uploading the same folder three times because your website was having issues with my browser. I don't know if you guys could wipe all my replays so that I can properly upload them.

The last 1v1 game I played was 6 months ago lol
[RAVEN ONLINE] "You don't talk like us" [....CAW CAW] -QXC
dsjoerg
Profile Joined January 2012
United States384 Posts
January 13 2013 22:45 GMT
#52
On January 14 2013 07:38 Genie1 wrote:
Your website should make sure that duplicate uploads are not possible because I just made the mistake of uploading the same folder three times because your website was having issues with my browser. I don't know if you guys could wipe all my replays so that I can properly upload them.


Duplicate replays are automatically handled! Not to worry
card-carrying grubby fan. developer of GGTracker.
KirA_TheGreaT
Profile Joined April 2011
France204 Posts
January 13 2013 22:51 GMT
#53
cool site, but at the beginning i was worried of my spending skill wich was platinum although i'm a master terran since 1 year :O

Then i clicked the 1v1 button
InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
January 13 2013 23:09 GMT
#54
On January 14 2013 07:25 dsjoerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
I find I have much higher SQ than I should.


Sounds like you've got your macro spending nailed down and it's time to worry about other parts of the game?

On average, Masters league players have Master's league Spending Skill. I investigated that in this comment on the thread "Spending Quotient Revisited".



I'm barely mid-master with a spending kill of high GM, GM recently.

Hence my skepticism.
Cereal
dsjoerg
Profile Joined January 2012
United States384 Posts
January 14 2013 00:24 GMT
#55
I'm barely mid-master with a spending kill of high GM, GM recently.

Hence my skepticism.


Masters league players have a wide variety of Spending Skill. Spending is important, but it's just one part of the game and not all the skills are held by all players to the same degree. You might have great spending but bad micro, or vice-versa.

I just pulled our data for players who are ranked Masters 1v1 who have at least 30 1v1 Ladder games in GGTracker. The following data shows the distribution of Spending Skill for these players. You'll see that most of them, 107 of them, have Masters level spending, as you'd expect. But some has GM level spending, some have Diamond spending and below.

Here are the raw stats. The left column is a Spending Skill level, where 0 is bronze average, and 6 is GM average. The right column is the # of Masters players who have that average Spending Skill.

0.50000 1
1.75000 1
2.00000 2
2.25000 2
2.50000 10
2.75000 9
3.00000 18
3.25000 23
3.50000 33
3.75000 43
4.00000 42
4.25000 75
4.50000 83
4.75000 98
5.00000 107
5.25000 94
5.50000 84
5.75000 91
6.00000 62
6.25000 45
6.50000 10
6.75000 4

Bear in mind that 6.0 is grandmaster average spending, so someone can get higher than a 6 if their average SQ is better than grandmaster average.

The row for 5.0 are players with average spending skill between 5.0 and 5.25 -- so Masters average and slightly above average.

ps. Is it cool to share the identities of individual players of interest here? I'm inclined to say No, it's not cool, unless the player gives permission. But maybe someone can persuade us that it's OK.
card-carrying grubby fan. developer of GGTracker.
InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
January 14 2013 00:28 GMT
#56
On January 14 2013 09:24 dsjoerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
I'm barely mid-master with a spending kill of high GM, GM recently.

Hence my skepticism.


Masters league players have a wide variety of Spending Skill. Spending is important, but it's just one part of the game and not all the skills are held by all players to the same degree. You might have great spending but bad micro, or vice-versa.

I just pulled our data for players who are ranked Masters 1v1 who have at least 30 1v1 Ladder games in GGTracker. The following data shows the distribution of Spending Skill for these players. You'll see that most of them, 107 of them, have Masters level spending, as you'd expect. But some has GM level spending, some have Diamond spending and below.

Here are the raw stats. The left column is a Spending Skill level, where 0 is bronze average, and 6 is GM average. The right column is the # of Masters players who have that average Spending Skill.

0.50000 1
1.75000 1
2.00000 2
2.25000 2
2.50000 10
2.75000 9
3.00000 18
3.25000 23
3.50000 33
3.75000 43
4.00000 42
4.25000 75
4.50000 83
4.75000 98
5.00000 107
5.25000 94
5.50000 84
5.75000 91
6.00000 62
6.25000 45
6.50000 10
6.75000 4

Bear in mind that 6.0 is grandmaster average spending, so someone can get higher than a 6 if their average SQ is better than grandmaster average.

The row for 5.0 are players with average spending skill between 5.0 and 5.25 -- so Masters average and slightly above average.

ps. Is it cool to share the identities of individual players of interest here? I'm inclined to say No, it's not cool, unless the player gives permission. But maybe someone can persuade us that it's OK.


Interesting.

Feel free to share my identity if you need to, I don't care.
Cereal
dsjoerg
Profile Joined January 2012
United States384 Posts
January 14 2013 00:40 GMT
#57

Interesting.

Feel free to share my identity if you need to, I don't care.


Cool! You're winning 60% of your 1v1 Ladder matches lately, so whatever you're doing is working

I imagine people reading this thread would like to see the profiles of players that are in Masters despite having only Gold-level Spending Skill. However, I'm not sure if it's appropriate for GGTracker to disclose that without the player's explicit permission. We could add that sort of thing as an advanced-search feature on GGTracker, but I wonder if players would reasonably object to that.

One thing we definitely _won't_ do is allow people to conduct detailed research on their opponents without permission. You could imagine a system where you enter a player's name and see stats about their typical builds. I think people would rightfully object to that sort of thing unless it was opt-in.

So, I don't know exactly where to draw the line. Maybe the line is that sorting/searching by things that don't give you game-tilting intel about an opponent's behavior are OK. But before I do something like that I'd like the community to weigh in a bit on the pros and cons and fairness of it.
card-carrying grubby fan. developer of GGTracker.
dsjoerg
Profile Joined January 2012
United States384 Posts
January 14 2013 12:21 GMT
#58
On January 14 2013 02:49 InfCereal wrote:
Hey, can you add the inject percent to the match screen along with any other info available on the match list, but not in the details?


OK, it's in! Just for you buddy

Example: http://ggtracker.com/matches/950206

You'll see the inject % in the title of the inject chart.
card-carrying grubby fan. developer of GGTracker.
Deleted User 245622
Profile Joined January 2012
184 Posts
January 14 2013 12:29 GMT
#59
Here is my profile for anyone interested.

http://ggtracker.com/players/575781

Maybe you can get some interesting points from it.
InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
January 14 2013 12:42 GMT
#60
On January 14 2013 21:29 aidosae wrote:
Here is my profile for anyone interested.

http://ggtracker.com/players/575781

Maybe you can get some interesting points from it.


Your injects are impressive.
Cereal
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