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Blacktiger.jona
Profile Joined August 2011
13 Posts
April 06 2012 16:33 GMT
#21
Actually it's not that bad. Don't know how it's gonna change our perception of the matchmaking, but i think it's a great idea to speed up some promotion ! I mean, i have a lose streak of maybe 30 games (20% of win ratio), and i'm still in platinium xD. So i think the actual system is a bit too much slow
ZackAttack
Profile Joined June 2011
United States884 Posts
April 06 2012 16:34 GMT
#22
This is so great. I just beat a masters player, and I've never played against one before. :D
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Alacast
Profile Joined December 2011
United States205 Posts
April 06 2012 16:34 GMT
#23
Sounds good to me. It will be both refreshing to win some games without having to kill yourself to do it and challenging to get matched against someone much better and learn a thing or two. I can't help but wonder however if this is at all related to overall player numbers.
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Rumpus
Profile Joined August 2011
United States136 Posts
April 06 2012 16:35 GMT
#24
I think you guys are exaggerating this change. You know how big the leap is from the bottom of a league to the top of it? I would imagine that all it'll mean is you'll be playing people in the same general league but lets say you are ranked 10 in Diamond, you might be matched up with the guy you would play as if you were ranked 2 or 3 in that same league. I highly don't anyone will get consistently smashed to pieces over and over. This would also mean that the change in opponent between wins and losses will be a little more volatile for your next game. So, no big deal.

Besides...it'll be for 1 season.
Grammin'
Egyptian_Head
Profile Joined October 2010
South Africa508 Posts
April 06 2012 16:35 GMT
#25
On April 07 2012 01:23 ACrow wrote:
That's a stupid idea. Intentionally creating games where one side to be roflstomped? What's the purpose? Just so some people will feel better by occasionally beating someone up real bad?

I don't think they will widen it so much that you will be roflstomped. I would think you would just play vs people who are slightly better than you so while you may lose you still have a chance.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 06 2012 16:37 GMT
#26
On April 07 2012 01:27 GreEny K wrote:
This sucks, I don't want to play someone who will destroy me without trying... I like to get better, but getting beat on by a pro doesn't help me...


Well most of the pros say playing people that are way better than you gives you a better idea of what you need to improve on. As long as the ladder points reflect that they should have a handicap, I don't see much of an issue. It may be as simple as a high level gold player up against a mid level diamond player. I don't think Idra is going to be playing Silver players any time soon.
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ilion
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States65 Posts
April 06 2012 16:37 GMT
#27
There is nothing in that excerpt to suggest that platinum, diamond, or even mid masters players will be matched against pros. "Slightly higher or lower". I don't see any reason to assume anyone will be getting "free wins" either.
theplagueman
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom32 Posts
April 06 2012 16:38 GMT
#28
On April 07 2012 01:22 EdSlyB wrote:
I bet this is also because there is fewer players in Bnet. With less players they need to broad their matchmaking sample so players get matched with others faster. Well see how that turns out.


I gotta agree with this. My average wait time is a lot higher than what it was, 3, 2 or even 1 season ago. Around 1 minute minimum, 5 max.
Dujek
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United Kingdom276 Posts
April 06 2012 16:40 GMT
#29
On April 07 2012 01:38 theplagueman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 01:22 EdSlyB wrote:
I bet this is also because there is fewer players in Bnet. With less players they need to broad their matchmaking sample so players get matched with others faster. Well see how that turns out.


I gotta agree with this. My average wait time is a lot higher than what it was, 3, 2 or even 1 season ago. Around 1 minute minimum, 5 max.


In what league?

In Plat EU I still get near instant queues.

I'm for this, I don't think it will make a big difference in practice you probably won't even notice which players have higher or lower MMRs than you. It will just help people get into games faster and it will help people be promoted and demoted quicker.
latan
Profile Joined July 2010
740 Posts
April 06 2012 16:40 GMT
#30
this is a good idea because as they say, having a bit more variety is more fun. also better for learning for everyone.
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
April 06 2012 16:42 GMT
#31
On April 07 2012 01:40 Dujek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 01:38 theplagueman wrote:
On April 07 2012 01:22 EdSlyB wrote:
I bet this is also because there is fewer players in Bnet. With less players they need to broad their matchmaking sample so players get matched with others faster. Well see how that turns out.


I gotta agree with this. My average wait time is a lot higher than what it was, 3, 2 or even 1 season ago. Around 1 minute minimum, 5 max.


In what league?

In Plat EU I still get near instant queues.

I'm for this, I don't think it will make a big difference in practice you probably won't even notice which players have higher or lower MMRs than you. It will just help people get into games faster and it will help people be promoted and demoted quicker.


Same Gold EU here and the queues are just as quick as they where in S1 ;p
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cmizzles
Profile Joined May 2011
38 Posts
April 06 2012 16:45 GMT
#32
this is unbelievably bad for everyone. Being matched up with someone significantly worse or better than you is neither fun nor useful. isn't the whole point of matchmaking to match you up with someone of close to equal skill level? so stupid.
Mrvoodoochild1
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1439 Posts
April 06 2012 16:46 GMT
#33
I can't wait to stream snipe Idra from my diamond league. Thank you blizzard. You have made trolling alot easier.
"let your freak flag fly"
denzelz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States604 Posts
April 06 2012 16:47 GMT
#34
On April 07 2012 01:27 Plansix wrote:
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On April 07 2012 01:22 denzelz wrote:
This feels like a cop out from Blizzard. If they really wanted to make this game more appealing and exciting, they should just fix the custom game system. This just makes playing the ladder much more unpredictable, and potentially frustrating.


I don't know, it will also expose players to high levels of play than their current level, which should promote more improvement. People will have their bad habits punished more often by higher level players. Although I have no proof, I feel there were players who used abusive, easily countered play styles that were effective in their league, but then hit a hard wall on the ladder. This may remove some of that, which must be very fustrating for those players if they did not know what they were doing was really bad.


I get that, but I don't see how that would make the game more FUN. In fact, I would be more fustrated if I didn't know how good my opponents were and that I have the potential to get stomped instead of having an even game. I think this will just make people want to quit playing even more.
faintz
Profile Joined June 2010
United States47 Posts
April 06 2012 16:48 GMT
#35
This change makes little sense. If people have "anxiety" about laddering, how is the fact that they will randomly get smashed by a player much better than them going to help?

How will they ever get better by playing someone much lower than them?

We already don't show losses on players 'diamond and below' to help relieve some of the stress of having a bad record, this is just ruining it for everyone else who isn't afraid to press find game.
PeZuY
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
935 Posts
April 06 2012 16:48 GMT
#36
I just want to see statistics. That is all I ask from BNET2.0...
TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
April 06 2012 16:48 GMT
#37
I'm actually really excited about this. I'm looking forward to playing a more variety of players. Also glad to hear blizzard experimenting.
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The WingNut
Profile Joined February 2012
United States35 Posts
April 06 2012 16:53 GMT
#38
I like it! Open up the flood gates I say! As long as the ladder points in contention are adjusted accordingly, I don't have any problem with this at all.
Greenei
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1754 Posts
April 06 2012 16:53 GMT
#39
Yay I can play the pros, thats cool.
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KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
April 06 2012 16:56 GMT
#40
Guess I should avoid masters ladder this season and just get my terran smurf to diamond.
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