Don't see why people are complaining about "being crushed" by higher level players. You actually learn a lot from playing much better players than yourself. I'm quite happy everytime I get matched with a pro/semi-pro because it's a great occasion to test my builds, execution etc...

canikizu

4860 Posts

April 06 2012 17:05 GMT

#44

Why can't they just match 2 random people that search games at the same time, but instead of worrying about the players' levels, they only need to adjust the points. For example, it takes 1 second to match 2 players, but if one is bronze and one is GM, the point for winning and losing the match should be +1/-1 or something

Rommel88

Germany20 Posts

April 06 2012 17:07 GMT

#45

Kids, you won't get matched against player that are more than one leaguer above you. especially if you're dimaond+

eXigent.

Canada2419 Posts

April 06 2012 17:11 GMT

#46

Soo many people have failed to read what the OP actually says. Stop saying you are gonna be stomped by someone way better than you, when thats not the case at all. Blizzard said slightly higher or lower, not a whole league or 2 higher or lower. I swear most people dont even read the post, but instead just skim through it and then post their own 2cents which turns out to be completely wrong.

CursOr

United States6335 Posts

April 06 2012 17:11 GMT

#47

This is SOOOOOOO good.

The MMR is too strict. Every opponent I get is JUST like me. We both have same issues, spending, and it ends up being a life or death struggle for 45 minutes. Each game is too hard. Incomes, armies and Tech all seem to balance so much that it becomes a deadlock.

Making a wider range does 3 things:

1) Shorten wait times. No need to find someone closer to perfect MMR.

2) Shorter games that are harder, as a Diamond player I will get to experience more asswhoopins from Masters players, and learn the gameplay.

3) Shorter games from winning against Platinum players, who get to see what Diamond strats look like and I also get to see how I've progressed and try new things.

Day9 has said it's important to get to play against a wide variety of people. Playing harder opponents allows you to test your best strats and see how long you can last and how solid your play is. Playing easier opponents allows you to test NEW strategies and have a little bid more wiggle room while experimenting.

This has been needed for a few seasons now. Even at the end of beta I was noticing "all these games are just too hard", each player rages for 45 minutes because neither of us can seem to get a leg up.

tuho12345

4482 Posts

April 06 2012 17:14 GMT

#48

Hope they fix the MM where I have to play the same match up over and over again.

Mrvoodoochild1

United States1439 Posts

April 06 2012 17:17 GMT

#49

On April 07 2012 02:11 eXigent. wrote:
Soo many people have failed to read what the OP actually says. Stop saying you are gonna be stomped by someone way better than you, when thats not the case at all. Blizzard said slightly higher or lower, not a whole league or 2 higher or lower. I swear most people dont even read the post, but instead just skim through it and then post their own 2cents which turns out to be completely wrong.

Have you picked the brain of David Kim? How can you tell that by slightly lower or lightly higher that he doesn't mean a whole league below you? Never make conclusions about blizzard because half the shit they do makes no sense.

Zombo Joe

Canada850 Posts

April 06 2012 17:18 GMT

#50

Pretty sure they are doing this because there are always less and less players on the ladder and they need to match people up quicker.

With a larger MMR range you will find matches much quicker in the dead of night.

However they may be one sided stomps for either side more frequently.

Wi)nD

Canada719 Posts

April 06 2012 17:19 GMT

#51

this just seesm silly

i was under the impression that ppl wanted a more competitive ladder, not a high/low type of system

Vague

170 Posts

April 06 2012 17:21 GMT

#52

On April 07 2012 01:23 ACrow wrote:
That's a stupid idea. Intentionally creating games where one side to be roflstomped? What's the purpose? Just so some people will feel better by occasionally beating someone up real bad?

Players will be match against other players that are SLIGHTLY better. You should spend some time trying to understand what is said before declaring the idea to be stupid.

birchman

Sweden393 Posts

April 06 2012 17:21 GMT

#53

Will be interesting to see what this does. Getting beat by decisively better players only means more experience for me!

Quagmire

Ireland50 Posts

April 06 2012 17:21 GMT

#54

On April 07 2012 02:11 CursOr wrote:

This has been needed for a few seasons now. Even at the end of beta I was noticing "all these games are just too hard", each player rages for 45 minutes because neither of us can seem to get a leg up.

i rofl at this because i know wat your talking about high master player here and in those long games it usually one wrong click here or there and one player isnt a happy bunny

(easter and all that)

chuky500

France473 Posts

April 06 2012 17:24 GMT

#55

I was feeling it was already the case since the mid season. I'm platinum and I've been facing low diamond and top golds and some of them were really bad so I was thinking matching was changed without them telling us. But maybe it's just that they cheesed their way to platinum and then wanted to play more standard and don't manage to.

Vague

170 Posts

April 06 2012 17:26 GMT

#56

On April 07 2012 02:17 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:

Show nested quote +

sigh...you have been matched against players that are slightly favored before (that is what usually happens when you are facing promotion). You don't get matched against pros, just against someone that has a better mmr than you do...It seems that everything blizzard is saying is that you will get more of those slightly favored opponents. They already have a more or less precise notion of "slightly favored", and it certainly does not mean a whole league above you...

Gl!tch

United States573 Posts

April 06 2012 17:27 GMT

#57

guys it says "slightly" higher or lower. I don't think it will be matching diamond or low-mid masters players against GM's or anything like that. Just a little more variety.

Also, I bet they will make it so that a loss against someone higher than you doesn't kill your MMR as much as a loss against people lower than you (actually I think this is already true)

YouMake

United States262 Posts

April 06 2012 17:28 GMT

#58

I don't like this at all, demotion to me feels dumb. i dont think demotion should be in sc2 anyways.

Dephy

Lithuania163 Posts

April 06 2012 17:29 GMT

#59

i already getting matched agains pro's constantly and im mid master, dunno what this will change? mby just getting owned more often?

Vague

170 Posts

April 06 2012 17:34 GMT

#60

On April 07 2012 01:45 cmizzles wrote:
this is unbelievably bad for everyone. Being matched up with someone significantly worse or better than you is neither fun nor useful. isn't the whole point of matchmaking to match you up with someone of close to equal skill level? so stupid.

It's funny that when someone say "slightly better or worst" you understand "significantly better or worst"...I wonder who is the stupid one...