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On March 31 2012 14:16 Haustka wrote:
Jessica is not handling this well imo, why she has to make this public? this is gonna make Slayers image bad...
i agree if this is an every day sorta occurence in korea (well not everyday but you get what i mean) then theres no reason for her to make such a huge fuss over this, she should know that news would spread outside SK and obviously people outside SK would see this as a bid deal
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On March 31 2012 14:15 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 14:13 Zerothegreat wrote:On March 31 2012 14:10 Treemonkeys wrote:On March 31 2012 14:09 Blasterion wrote:On March 31 2012 14:07 Treemonkeys wrote:On March 31 2012 14:06 Blasterion wrote:On March 31 2012 14:02 Forikorder wrote:On March 31 2012 14:00 Wombat_NI wrote:On March 31 2012 13:58 Forikorder wrote:On March 31 2012 13:56 Snuggles wrote:
I love watching trolls and dicks getting punished. I hope that he really gets fined or sent to jail. Hey at least he isn't going to get killed like those kids playing Lineage 2 or something. love to see human decency in action oh man this guy said a nono word we should ruin his life Human decency = being a coward and abusing people via the guise of anonymity the internet gives you. In a country where there is legislation in place that can be used against you in this regard. human decency = destorying anyone who doesnt agree with you? human decency = the ability to interact with other humans with cohesion and with manner and respect. Punishable if otherwise sure? It's not too much to ask for someone to act with some human decency it really isn't. It is too much to lock them up or take a bunch of money over words on a screen. Stop acting like anyone thinks it was good behavior, no one is saying that. what he did was completely classless and unacceptable and need to be made an example of. Making an example of people is a stupid redneck view of things. It explicitly implies the punishment is unfair with the goal of scaring the shit out of everyone else. Ruling by fear is barbaric and not needed for human beings. Any form of punishment or upheld law is barbaric? Hmm explain that one to me! thats nto what he said, making an example of someone is pretty barbaric, basically what making an example of someone is is purposely giving them an extra large sentannce then normal (like lets say speeding normall is a 100$ fine and instead fining 1000$) in order to show everyone else how serious you are
Once again, he is being made an example of by being punished by what the law clearly states is wrong. The court will decide the severity of it based on the case not by some vendetta like objective to scare off all trolls. The real "example" of him being made is by making this case public. When the ruling comes then you can scream, "OMG THAT IS TOO EXTREME!?!" But until then, reserve judgement and just be happy that this moron is being punished for committing a crime.
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On March 31 2012 14:17 Blasterion wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 14:16 Treemonkeys wrote:On March 31 2012 14:11 Zerothegreat wrote:On March 31 2012 14:07 Treemonkeys wrote:On March 31 2012 14:06 Blasterion wrote:On March 31 2012 14:02 Forikorder wrote:On March 31 2012 14:00 Wombat_NI wrote:On March 31 2012 13:58 Forikorder wrote:On March 31 2012 13:56 Snuggles wrote:
I love watching trolls and dicks getting punished. I hope that he really gets fined or sent to jail. Hey at least he isn't going to get killed like those kids playing Lineage 2 or something. love to see human decency in action oh man this guy said a nono word we should ruin his life Human decency = being a coward and abusing people via the guise of anonymity the internet gives you. In a country where there is legislation in place that can be used against you in this regard. human decency = destorying anyone who doesnt agree with you? human decency = the ability to interact with other humans with cohesion and with manner and respect. Punishable if otherwise sure? It's not too much to ask for someone to act with some human decency it really isn't. It is too much to lock them up or take a bunch of money over words on a screen. Stop acting like anyone thinks it was good behavior, no one is saying that. Should one go to jail for stealing a candy bar from a store? That is extreme!!! OMG /sarcasm ^ this is what you are saying. You think the punishment is too severe when it simply isn't. I don't think I should have to go to court and pay a fine for speeding... So what I'm saying is, what legal background do you have to say the punishment doesn't fit the crime? Don't say that is what I'm saying right after bringing up candy theft which I haven't talked about at all. Fair punishment for stealing is a fine because you took some of value so you pay that value back. Yes locking someone up over a candy bar is disgusting, it's a fucking candy bar. You don't need a legal backround for morals, silly. More often than not legal systems are enforcing immoral laws and people are going through law school for $$$ not to make the world a better place. Society form rules so it can sustain itself. Morals fail, that's why there are rules. And at the end of rules there are punishment, it's the fear of punishment that guides the people on to the right paths.
Getting insulted online (or anywhere) is completely irrelevant towards wether or not society will be able to sustain itself. Maybe fear guides you lol, I mostly just know nice people. Oh but god, they have slung some insults from time to time!
Who the fuck hasn't.
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On March 31 2012 14:18 Zerothegreat wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 14:15 Forikorder wrote:On March 31 2012 14:13 Zerothegreat wrote:On March 31 2012 14:10 Treemonkeys wrote:On March 31 2012 14:09 Blasterion wrote:On March 31 2012 14:07 Treemonkeys wrote:On March 31 2012 14:06 Blasterion wrote:On March 31 2012 14:02 Forikorder wrote:On March 31 2012 14:00 Wombat_NI wrote:On March 31 2012 13:58 Forikorder wrote:
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love to see human decency in action
oh man this guy said a nono word we should ruin his life Human decency = being a coward and abusing people via the guise of anonymity the internet gives you. In a country where there is legislation in place that can be used against you in this regard. human decency = destorying anyone who doesnt agree with you? human decency = the ability to interact with other humans with cohesion and with manner and respect. Punishable if otherwise sure? It's not too much to ask for someone to act with some human decency it really isn't. It is too much to lock them up or take a bunch of money over words on a screen. Stop acting like anyone thinks it was good behavior, no one is saying that. what he did was completely classless and unacceptable and need to be made an example of. Making an example of people is a stupid redneck view of things. It explicitly implies the punishment is unfair with the goal of scaring the shit out of everyone else. Ruling by fear is barbaric and not needed for human beings. Any form of punishment or upheld law is barbaric? Hmm explain that one to me! thats nto what he said, making an example of someone is pretty barbaric, basically what making an example of someone is is purposely giving them an extra large sentannce then normal (like lets say speeding normall is a 100$ fine and instead fining 1000$) in order to show everyone else how serious you are Once again, he is being made an example of by being punished by what the law clearly states is wrong. The court will decide the severity of it based on the case not by some vendetta like objective to scare off all trolls. The real "example" of him being made is by making this case public. When the ruling comes then you can scream, "OMG THAT IS TOO EXTREME!?!" But until then, reserve judgement and just be happy that this moron is being punished for committing a crime.
human decency = being happy at the suffering of others?
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Does anyone here honestly think Jessica has *never* said some nasty shit to someone?
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in america we have freedom of speech, we don't like internet trolling but it's becoming accepted that it exists and will never stop.
maybe korea needs to censor their internet otherwise they will always have trolls, its the nature of the internet. one of the only places people can rage, no matter how misguided it may be, it could very well be a stress reliever.
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On March 31 2012 14:20 Treemonkeys wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 14:17 Blasterion wrote:On March 31 2012 14:16 Treemonkeys wrote:On March 31 2012 14:11 Zerothegreat wrote:On March 31 2012 14:07 Treemonkeys wrote:On March 31 2012 14:06 Blasterion wrote:On March 31 2012 14:02 Forikorder wrote:On March 31 2012 14:00 Wombat_NI wrote:On March 31 2012 13:58 Forikorder wrote:On March 31 2012 13:56 Snuggles wrote:
I love watching trolls and dicks getting punished. I hope that he really gets fined or sent to jail. Hey at least he isn't going to get killed like those kids playing Lineage 2 or something. love to see human decency in action oh man this guy said a nono word we should ruin his life Human decency = being a coward and abusing people via the guise of anonymity the internet gives you. In a country where there is legislation in place that can be used against you in this regard. human decency = destorying anyone who doesnt agree with you? human decency = the ability to interact with other humans with cohesion and with manner and respect. Punishable if otherwise sure? It's not too much to ask for someone to act with some human decency it really isn't. It is too much to lock them up or take a bunch of money over words on a screen. Stop acting like anyone thinks it was good behavior, no one is saying that. Should one go to jail for stealing a candy bar from a store? That is extreme!!! OMG /sarcasm ^ this is what you are saying. You think the punishment is too severe when it simply isn't. I don't think I should have to go to court and pay a fine for speeding... So what I'm saying is, what legal background do you have to say the punishment doesn't fit the crime? Don't say that is what I'm saying right after bringing up candy theft which I haven't talked about at all. Fair punishment for stealing is a fine because you took some of value so you pay that value back. Yes locking someone up over a candy bar is disgusting, it's a fucking candy bar. You don't need a legal backround for morals, silly. More often than not legal systems are enforcing immoral laws and people are going through law school for $$$ not to make the world a better place. Society form rules so it can sustain itself. Morals fail, that's why there are rules. And at the end of rules there are punishment, it's the fear of punishment that guides the people on to the right paths. Getting insulted online (or anywhere) is completely irrelevant towards wether or not society will be able to sustain itself. Maybe fear guides you lol, I mostly just know nice people. Oh but god, they have slung some insults from time to time! Who the fuck hasn't.
Please tell me how a society composed of complete douchebags and classless people with a complete lack of human decency and any kind of trust will sustain itself.
Every society has some kind of trust, and respect for one another, that is the only way that society can sustain itself.
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People don't seem to understand. In Korea this is totally reasonable and happens.
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On March 31 2012 14:18 Zerothegreat wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 14:15 Forikorder wrote:On March 31 2012 14:13 Zerothegreat wrote:On March 31 2012 14:10 Treemonkeys wrote:On March 31 2012 14:09 Blasterion wrote:On March 31 2012 14:07 Treemonkeys wrote:On March 31 2012 14:06 Blasterion wrote:On March 31 2012 14:02 Forikorder wrote:On March 31 2012 14:00 Wombat_NI wrote:On March 31 2012 13:58 Forikorder wrote:
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love to see human decency in action
oh man this guy said a nono word we should ruin his life Human decency = being a coward and abusing people via the guise of anonymity the internet gives you. In a country where there is legislation in place that can be used against you in this regard. human decency = destorying anyone who doesnt agree with you? human decency = the ability to interact with other humans with cohesion and with manner and respect. Punishable if otherwise sure? It's not too much to ask for someone to act with some human decency it really isn't. It is too much to lock them up or take a bunch of money over words on a screen. Stop acting like anyone thinks it was good behavior, no one is saying that. what he did was completely classless and unacceptable and need to be made an example of. Making an example of people is a stupid redneck view of things. It explicitly implies the punishment is unfair with the goal of scaring the shit out of everyone else. Ruling by fear is barbaric and not needed for human beings. Any form of punishment or upheld law is barbaric? Hmm explain that one to me! thats nto what he said, making an example of someone is pretty barbaric, basically what making an example of someone is is purposely giving them an extra large sentannce then normal (like lets say speeding normall is a 100$ fine and instead fining 1000$) in order to show everyone else how serious you are Once again, he is being made an example of by being punished by what the law clearly states is wrong. The court will decide the severity of it based on the case not by some vendetta like objective to scare off all trolls. The real "example" of him being made is by making this case public. When the ruling comes then you can scream, "OMG THAT IS TOO EXTREME!?!" But until then, reserve judgement and just be happy that this moron is being punished for committing a crime.
Have you ever sped on the road?
I guess you've committed a crime too.
I'm not sure how laws in SK work (probably more strict than in USA) but I can't imagine such a case being upheld in USA.
Irregardless of the guy's act, Jessica needs to grow up. She can't expect everyone to always agree with her and for things to alays go her way - she needs to be able to take some criticism.
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On March 31 2012 14:17 Blasterion wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 14:16 Treemonkeys wrote:On March 31 2012 14:11 Zerothegreat wrote:On March 31 2012 14:07 Treemonkeys wrote:On March 31 2012 14:06 Blasterion wrote:On March 31 2012 14:02 Forikorder wrote:On March 31 2012 14:00 Wombat_NI wrote:On March 31 2012 13:58 Forikorder wrote:On March 31 2012 13:56 Snuggles wrote:
I love watching trolls and dicks getting punished. I hope that he really gets fined or sent to jail. Hey at least he isn't going to get killed like those kids playing Lineage 2 or something. love to see human decency in action oh man this guy said a nono word we should ruin his life Human decency = being a coward and abusing people via the guise of anonymity the internet gives you. In a country where there is legislation in place that can be used against you in this regard. human decency = destorying anyone who doesnt agree with you? human decency = the ability to interact with other humans with cohesion and with manner and respect. Punishable if otherwise sure? It's not too much to ask for someone to act with some human decency it really isn't. It is too much to lock them up or take a bunch of money over words on a screen. Stop acting like anyone thinks it was good behavior, no one is saying that. Should one go to jail for stealing a candy bar from a store? That is extreme!!! OMG /sarcasm ^ this is what you are saying. You think the punishment is too severe when it simply isn't. I don't think I should have to go to court and pay a fine for speeding... So what I'm saying is, what legal background do you have to say the punishment doesn't fit the crime? Don't say that is what I'm saying right after bringing up candy theft which I haven't talked about at all. Fair punishment for stealing is a fine because you took some of value so you pay that value back. Yes locking someone up over a candy bar is disgusting, it's a fucking candy bar. You don't need a legal backround for morals, silly. More often than not legal systems are enforcing immoral laws and people are going through law school for $$$ not to make the world a better place. Society form rules so it can sustain itself. Morals fail, that's why there are rules. And at the end of rules there are punishment, it's the fear of punishment that guides the people on to the right paths.
And not everyone's morals are the same. It is the reason some countries have democracies to elect the people that share their "moral views." The justice system will handle this as it should be.
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On March 31 2012 14:22 bokchoi wrote:
People don't seem to understand. In Korea this is totally reasonable and happens.
Great.
We're based in NA/Europe. From our perspectives a lawsuit is frivolous and ridiculous.
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On March 31 2012 14:21 Treemonkeys wrote:
Does anyone here honestly think Jessica has *never* said some nasty shit to someone?
Dragon should sue her.
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On March 31 2012 14:22 Blasterion wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 14:20 Treemonkeys wrote:On March 31 2012 14:17 Blasterion wrote:On March 31 2012 14:16 Treemonkeys wrote:On March 31 2012 14:11 Zerothegreat wrote:On March 31 2012 14:07 Treemonkeys wrote:On March 31 2012 14:06 Blasterion wrote:On March 31 2012 14:02 Forikorder wrote:On March 31 2012 14:00 Wombat_NI wrote:On March 31 2012 13:58 Forikorder wrote:
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love to see human decency in action
oh man this guy said a nono word we should ruin his life Human decency = being a coward and abusing people via the guise of anonymity the internet gives you. In a country where there is legislation in place that can be used against you in this regard. human decency = destorying anyone who doesnt agree with you? human decency = the ability to interact with other humans with cohesion and with manner and respect. Punishable if otherwise sure? It's not too much to ask for someone to act with some human decency it really isn't. It is too much to lock them up or take a bunch of money over words on a screen. Stop acting like anyone thinks it was good behavior, no one is saying that. Should one go to jail for stealing a candy bar from a store? That is extreme!!! OMG /sarcasm ^ this is what you are saying. You think the punishment is too severe when it simply isn't. I don't think I should have to go to court and pay a fine for speeding... So what I'm saying is, what legal background do you have to say the punishment doesn't fit the crime? Don't say that is what I'm saying right after bringing up candy theft which I haven't talked about at all. Fair punishment for stealing is a fine because you took some of value so you pay that value back. Yes locking someone up over a candy bar is disgusting, it's a fucking candy bar. You don't need a legal backround for morals, silly. More often than not legal systems are enforcing immoral laws and people are going through law school for $$$ not to make the world a better place. Society form rules so it can sustain itself. Morals fail, that's why there are rules. And at the end of rules there are punishment, it's the fear of punishment that guides the people on to the right paths. Getting insulted online (or anywhere) is completely irrelevant towards wether or not society will be able to sustain itself. Maybe fear guides you lol, I mostly just know nice people. Oh but god, they have slung some insults from time to time! Who the fuck hasn't. Please tell me how a society composed of complete douchebags and classless people with a complete lack of human decency and any kind of trust will sustain itself.
First tell me what role the court system played in you being able to deal with mean things people say starting from like your first days at school lol. They both lack human decency in this case, Jessica more so for the escalation of words to force.
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On March 31 2012 14:20 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 14:18 Zerothegreat wrote:On March 31 2012 14:15 Forikorder wrote:On March 31 2012 14:13 Zerothegreat wrote:On March 31 2012 14:10 Treemonkeys wrote:On March 31 2012 14:09 Blasterion wrote:On March 31 2012 14:07 Treemonkeys wrote:On March 31 2012 14:06 Blasterion wrote:On March 31 2012 14:02 Forikorder wrote:On March 31 2012 14:00 Wombat_NI wrote:
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Human decency = being a coward and abusing people via the guise of anonymity the internet gives you. In a country where there is legislation in place that can be used against you in this regard. human decency = destorying anyone who doesnt agree with you? human decency = the ability to interact with other humans with cohesion and with manner and respect. Punishable if otherwise sure? It's not too much to ask for someone to act with some human decency it really isn't. It is too much to lock them up or take a bunch of money over words on a screen. Stop acting like anyone thinks it was good behavior, no one is saying that. what he did was completely classless and unacceptable and need to be made an example of. Making an example of people is a stupid redneck view of things. It explicitly implies the punishment is unfair with the goal of scaring the shit out of everyone else. Ruling by fear is barbaric and not needed for human beings. Any form of punishment or upheld law is barbaric? Hmm explain that one to me! thats nto what he said, making an example of someone is pretty barbaric, basically what making an example of someone is is purposely giving them an extra large sentannce then normal (like lets say speeding normall is a 100$ fine and instead fining 1000$) in order to show everyone else how serious you are Once again, he is being made an example of by being punished by what the law clearly states is wrong. The court will decide the severity of it based on the case not by some vendetta like objective to scare off all trolls. The real "example" of him being made is by making this case public. When the ruling comes then you can scream, "OMG THAT IS TOO EXTREME!?!" But until then, reserve judgement and just be happy that this moron is being punished for committing a crime. human decency = being happy at the suffering of others?
No human decency = pursuing justice for crimes commited.
The same way your parents should ground you or spank you for doing something bad. I wouldn't see that as "suffering."
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On March 31 2012 14:22 FairForever wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 14:18 Zerothegreat wrote:On March 31 2012 14:15 Forikorder wrote:On March 31 2012 14:13 Zerothegreat wrote:On March 31 2012 14:10 Treemonkeys wrote:On March 31 2012 14:09 Blasterion wrote:On March 31 2012 14:07 Treemonkeys wrote:On March 31 2012 14:06 Blasterion wrote:On March 31 2012 14:02 Forikorder wrote:On March 31 2012 14:00 Wombat_NI wrote:
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Human decency = being a coward and abusing people via the guise of anonymity the internet gives you. In a country where there is legislation in place that can be used against you in this regard. human decency = destorying anyone who doesnt agree with you? human decency = the ability to interact with other humans with cohesion and with manner and respect. Punishable if otherwise sure? It's not too much to ask for someone to act with some human decency it really isn't. It is too much to lock them up or take a bunch of money over words on a screen. Stop acting like anyone thinks it was good behavior, no one is saying that. what he did was completely classless and unacceptable and need to be made an example of. Making an example of people is a stupid redneck view of things. It explicitly implies the punishment is unfair with the goal of scaring the shit out of everyone else. Ruling by fear is barbaric and not needed for human beings. Any form of punishment or upheld law is barbaric? Hmm explain that one to me! thats nto what he said, making an example of someone is pretty barbaric, basically what making an example of someone is is purposely giving them an extra large sentannce then normal (like lets say speeding normall is a 100$ fine and instead fining 1000$) in order to show everyone else how serious you are Once again, he is being made an example of by being punished by what the law clearly states is wrong. The court will decide the severity of it based on the case not by some vendetta like objective to scare off all trolls. The real "example" of him being made is by making this case public. When the ruling comes then you can scream, "OMG THAT IS TOO EXTREME!?!" But until then, reserve judgement and just be happy that this moron is being punished for committing a crime. Have you ever sped on the road? I guess you've committed a crime too. I'm not sure how laws in SK work (probably more strict than in USA) but I can't imagine such a case being upheld in USA. Irregardless of the guy's act, Jessica needs to grow up. She can't expect everyone to always agree with her and for things to alays go her way - she needs to be able to take some criticism.
I think you are confusing Cyber Bullying to Criticism. Very big difference.
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On March 31 2012 14:23 FairForever wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 14:22 bokchoi wrote:
People don't seem to understand. In Korea this is totally reasonable and happens. Great. We're based in NA/Europe. From our perspectives a lawsuit is frivolous and ridiculous.
good thing she didnt do it in NA/Europe then.
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It's just the legal version of punching someone in the face for insulting you, not at all cool.
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On March 31 2012 14:24 Zerothegreat wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 14:20 Forikorder wrote:On March 31 2012 14:18 Zerothegreat wrote:On March 31 2012 14:15 Forikorder wrote:On March 31 2012 14:13 Zerothegreat wrote:On March 31 2012 14:10 Treemonkeys wrote:On March 31 2012 14:09 Blasterion wrote:On March 31 2012 14:07 Treemonkeys wrote:On March 31 2012 14:06 Blasterion wrote:On March 31 2012 14:02 Forikorder wrote:
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human decency = destorying anyone who doesnt agree with you? human decency = the ability to interact with other humans with cohesion and with manner and respect. Punishable if otherwise sure? It's not too much to ask for someone to act with some human decency it really isn't. It is too much to lock them up or take a bunch of money over words on a screen. Stop acting like anyone thinks it was good behavior, no one is saying that. what he did was completely classless and unacceptable and need to be made an example of. Making an example of people is a stupid redneck view of things. It explicitly implies the punishment is unfair with the goal of scaring the shit out of everyone else. Ruling by fear is barbaric and not needed for human beings. Any form of punishment or upheld law is barbaric? Hmm explain that one to me! thats nto what he said, making an example of someone is pretty barbaric, basically what making an example of someone is is purposely giving them an extra large sentannce then normal (like lets say speeding normall is a 100$ fine and instead fining 1000$) in order to show everyone else how serious you are Once again, he is being made an example of by being punished by what the law clearly states is wrong. The court will decide the severity of it based on the case not by some vendetta like objective to scare off all trolls. The real "example" of him being made is by making this case public. When the ruling comes then you can scream, "OMG THAT IS TOO EXTREME!?!" But until then, reserve judgement and just be happy that this moron is being punished for committing a crime. human decency = being happy at the suffering of others? No human decency = pursuing justice for crimes commited. The same way your parents should ground you or spank you for doing something bad. I wouldn't see that as "suffering."
bad example since spanking im pretty sure if a parent is evert found to have spanked there kid they could have the kid taken away
also, grounding someone and fining them 40 thousand dollars, not the same thing
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On March 31 2012 14:18 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 14:16 Haustka wrote:
Jessica is not handling this well imo, why she has to make this public? this is gonna make Slayers image bad... i agree if this is an every day sorta occurence in korea (well not everyday but you get what i mean) then theres no reason for her to make such a huge fuss over this, she should know that news would spread outside SK and obviously people outside SK would see this as a bid deal
Except most people see her action as justified, even outside of Korea.
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On March 31 2012 14:23 FairForever wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 14:22 bokchoi wrote:
People don't seem to understand. In Korea this is totally reasonable and happens. Great. We're based in NA/Europe. From our perspectives a lawsuit is frivolous and ridiculous.
She doesn't live in NA/Europe so their perspectives probably don't matter when dealing with stuff in Korea.
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