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Mike Morhaime "SC2 Proleague will open this year" - Page 19

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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
March 17 2012 13:01 GMT
#361
Blizzard is finaly realizing that they NEED to act themselves in the scene so their game don't get crushed by other. Was about time.
The old " Here's our new Blizzard game, make it awsome we're watching " was getting a bit ineffective when you look at what Valve or Riot can do.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
shaftofpleasure
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Korea (North)1375 Posts
March 17 2012 13:03 GMT
#362
On March 17 2012 21:20 corumjhaelen wrote:
Mike Morhaime, after not caring for 10 years, after suing MBC, after all those stupid disputes, finally decides to come to a bw game. It was obviously for its burial.
Funnily enough, I'm pretty mad about the move.
As for the sc2 PL, it was pretty obvious it was bound to happen soon. Terrible move.


This is basically what I am feeling right now.

I will NEVER EVER support a Blizzard game for what they did to BW and what they are doing today with SC2. D3 and Sc2 would have been the games I would have bought but you can say goodbye to my ass, blizzard.
It's either the holes of my nose are getting smaller or my fingers are getting bigger. /// Always Rooting for the Underdog. Hyuk/Sin/Jaehoon/Juni/Hyvva/Hoejja/Canata //// Hiding in thread somewhere where BW is still in it's pure form here on TL.
jpak
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States5045 Posts
March 17 2012 13:04 GMT
#363
On March 17 2012 21:48 bgx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2012 21:26 jpak wrote:
On March 17 2012 21:21 Gamegene wrote:
On March 17 2012 21:17 jpak wrote:
GSL is living off almost entirely on western viewer's support.

I doubt that that will change with OGN.


There would be no point in Blizzard offering OGN a contract then.


Oh, they are trying. Especially with LoL at their heels, they need to. I just don't believe that this will be able to change the korean SC2 scene, at least permanently.

Main income for Blizzard regarding SC2 is still box sale. Korea accounted for around 50% of worldwide copy sells of Starcraft 1. Just because of its popularity and deep ingraining in Korean culture. Thats a big portion of a pie, and i believe Blizzard not informing how well SC2 was received in Korea makes me think it was rather low. They finally understood that postering Seoul and buying out an advert on a Plane is not a way to go.


Too little, too late, if you ask me. Besides, SC2 in Korea for me just feels so... artificial. It's propped up by outside support and I doubt OGN will be able to change Korea's mentality. There's a high possibility that too many Koreans just don't find SC2 fun to play.
CJ Entusman #50! #1 클템 fan TL!
Clbull
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1439 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-17 13:08:17
March 17 2012 13:05 GMT
#364
On March 17 2012 15:54 naux wrote:
people think this is good news?
gomtv might get owned just because this guy thinks kespa deserves to have exclusive rights to sc2 meaning no gomtv for most of you that didnt understand what the OP wrote

This is what the Korean scene needs, I'm afraid.

StarCraft II has received a lukewarm reception in Korea while the transition over from BW to SC2 has consisted mainly of retiring progamers or a newer generation of Korean youth that play the game because:
  • Blizzard's exclusivity deal with GOMTV and their vicegrip over the ballsack of the e-sports industry through requiring licensing agreements for any tournament that is either above $5,000 or is either PPV or pay to compete is stifling the growth of e-sports in Korea.
  • GSL is the premiere league in Korea because it is the only league in Korea. By the way, the KSL and ESV TV Korean weekly don't really count as they are minor tournaments more akin to the Go4SC2 and ZOTAC cups we have here in America and Europe. There's a reason why every Korean player's dream is to be offered a huge six figure contract by a foreign team and be whisked off to a land of major tournaments galore. Because all Korea has is one league which is nearly impossible to qualify for and only rewards half-decent prize money if you end up in Code S, which is even more of a feat.
  • Blizzard's refusal to implement LAN support in any way, shape or form is preventing KeSPA from just disregarding an unfairly placed monopoly by one of the big three game publishers (Activision, EA and Ubisoft, in this case Activision who own Blizzard) who we know are money grubbing...
  • E-sports has dwindled in popularity in Korea. Already we've seen the shutdown of MBCGame as well as their team, MBCGame Hero. Additionally, WeMade Entertainment and Hwaseung Organisation have stepped out of sponsoring their respective teams. All three teams were disbanded and consolidated into Team 8.
Val_
Profile Joined May 2010
Ukraine156 Posts
March 17 2012 13:06 GMT
#365
Hi SCII Proleague. Hi SCII KeSPA. Hi progamer licenses.

Bye-bye Non-Korean starcraft! That was a great year.
AKA [7x]Val / GML Terran EU
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6119 Posts
March 17 2012 13:07 GMT
#366
On March 17 2012 21:58 Jiddra wrote:
Good move, they need to something now that LoL is exploding in SK.



Come to think about it I think LoL getting big in Korea is a good thing.

It will force Blizzard to stop being so incompetent.
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Copymizer
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark2107 Posts
March 17 2012 13:07 GMT
#367
wow wow wow this is pretty huge! I'm excited how this is gonna go how this is gonna work out and how all fans and kroean esports industry will ract to this..
~~Yo man ! MBCGame HERO Fighting !! Holy check !
Clbull
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1439 Posts
March 17 2012 13:10 GMT
#368
On March 17 2012 22:06 [7x]laV wrote:
Hi SCII Proleague. Hi SCII KeSPA. Hi progamer licenses.

Bye-bye Non-Korean starcraft! That was a great year.

I can only hope that Blizzard are taking this into account when negotiating with KeSPA. Namely a higher foreigner representation, better international syndication of tournaments with multilingual commnentary teams and not just Korean.
captainwaffles
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1050 Posts
March 17 2012 13:16 GMT
#369
God I hope this is free!
https://x.com/CaptainWaffless
lowercase
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1047 Posts
March 17 2012 13:17 GMT
#370
I think current Code S players will probably dominate for the first season. But after BW pros get warmed up...
That is not dead which can eternal lie...
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
March 17 2012 13:17 GMT
#371
On March 17 2012 15:51 Skoop wrote:
Wow epic news. Maybe this will help bring Starcraft ahead of LoL in Korea.


I highly doubt that.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
March 17 2012 13:18 GMT
#372
On March 17 2012 22:04 jpak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2012 21:48 bgx wrote:
On March 17 2012 21:26 jpak wrote:
On March 17 2012 21:21 Gamegene wrote:
On March 17 2012 21:17 jpak wrote:
GSL is living off almost entirely on western viewer's support.

I doubt that that will change with OGN.


There would be no point in Blizzard offering OGN a contract then.


Oh, they are trying. Especially with LoL at their heels, they need to. I just don't believe that this will be able to change the korean SC2 scene, at least permanently.

Main income for Blizzard regarding SC2 is still box sale. Korea accounted for around 50% of worldwide copy sells of Starcraft 1. Just because of its popularity and deep ingraining in Korean culture. Thats a big portion of a pie, and i believe Blizzard not informing how well SC2 was received in Korea makes me think it was rather low. They finally understood that postering Seoul and buying out an advert on a Plane is not a way to go.


Too little, too late, if you ask me. Besides, SC2 in Korea for me just feels so... artificial. It's propped up by outside support and I doubt OGN will be able to change Korea's mentality. There's a high possibility that too many Koreans just don't find SC2 fun to play.

Indeed.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
March 17 2012 13:19 GMT
#373
On March 17 2012 22:07 Highways wrote:
Come to think about it I think LoL getting big in Korea is a good thing.

It will force Blizzard to stop being so incompetent.

Or it will outright kill SC2, at least when it comes to eSports. One of the two.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
March 17 2012 13:21 GMT
#374
On March 17 2012 22:19 Conti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2012 22:07 Highways wrote:
Come to think about it I think LoL getting big in Korea is a good thing.

It will force Blizzard to stop being so incompetent.

Or it will outright kill SC2, at least when it comes to eSports. One of the two.


Yeah, it's most likely this way.
A lot of the people watching LoL don't like sc2, probably as much as sc2 viewer don't like LoL.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
March 17 2012 13:22 GMT
#375
Huh, no official statement from Kespa's side. This whole wanting a SC2 proleague news is pretty old and it was prior to the LoL explosion in SK. Wishful thinking by Mike.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
HejaBVB
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany125 Posts
March 17 2012 13:23 GMT
#376
LoL is NO ESPORT. LoL are casuals who think they are good. Like Halo or Call of Duty, just a JOKE!

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Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
March 17 2012 13:26 GMT
#377
On March 17 2012 22:23 HejaBVB wrote:
LoL is NO ESPORT. LoL are casuals who think they are good. Like Halo or Call of Duty, just a JOKE!

BW players would say the same thing about SC2. Pot, meet Kettle.
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Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
March 17 2012 13:27 GMT
#378
On March 17 2012 21:59 nathangonmad wrote:
blizzard needs to move faster and make there game more accessible, lol is moving fast in korea.


no.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
March 17 2012 13:27 GMT
#379
On March 17 2012 22:23 HejaBVB wrote:
LoL is NO ESPORT. LoL are casuals who think they are good. Like Halo or Call of Duty, just a JOKE!


Sorry, but you don't make that decision. The people do. As much as I don't like watching it either this is where the market is going. You can call it a joke all you want, but they enjoy it more.
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-17 13:30:25
March 17 2012 13:29 GMT
#380
On March 17 2012 22:27 Wildmoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2012 21:59 nathangonmad wrote:
blizzard needs to move faster and make there game more accessible, lol is moving fast in korea.


no, if anything SC2 need more depth just like BW added more depth to SC1. LoL and SC2 are different kind of game.



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