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Mike Morhaime "SC2 Proleague will open this year" - Page 18

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Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
March 17 2012 12:23 GMT
#341
On March 17 2012 21:16 pStar wrote:
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On March 17 2012 21:09 Xxio wrote:
On March 17 2012 21:03 BigKahunaBurger wrote:
On March 17 2012 20:52 Xxio wrote:
I hope KeSPA continues to enforce progamer licensing. Need to keep the randoms out of the big leagues >:[


Is that sarcasm? I really hope so :\


It's not. The system isn't very different from what GOM currently does. I prefer licensing though, it's like RL GrandMaster league.


So how is it possible to get upcoming talent into the leagues?

You have to stop thinking from a BW mentality. In BW, when a player became really dominant he stayed there for months. This is a completely in SC2, the dominant players change so much and get beaten by less skilled players so regularly enforcing pro gaming licenses would just mean a stagnant competition.


Courage and B-teamers improving.
A player being dominant for months (or years) has nothing to do with how new players enter the system. If you can't even win Courage you aren't going to get the chance to play a good BW player, much less have any hope of winning.
KTY
HejaBVB
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany125 Posts
March 17 2012 12:25 GMT
#342
On March 17 2012 20:54 SeventhPride wrote:
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On March 17 2012 20:51 HejaBVB wrote:
On March 17 2012 20:39 Denzil wrote:
Interesting to see how GomTV deals with this, obviously it'll require a lot of support from us to ensure survival.


who says MVP/NesTea and MMA will play for the ProLeague?

Who says they won't? I believe kespa won't stop them from entering. They should know sc2 is getting huge outside korea, and why avoid making money if it means people will watch them?


The most realisic scenario is: Players/Teams sign exclusive deals with GomTV or KesPa. So MMA/MVP/NesTea will only play for GomTV or KesPa, depending on who pays more/asks first.
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
March 17 2012 12:25 GMT
#343
On March 17 2012 16:42 TheWorldToCome wrote:
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On March 17 2012 16:38 ArcLiTe wrote:
Good. Im sick and tired of seeing MC, Nestea and MVP owning everyone. Time for the REAL pros now.


I can't tell if this is sarcasm or....?



If you really think that BW pros are going to switch and like IMMEDIATELY start owning the top SC2 players then you need to rethink things IMO.

It's just stupidity and elitism.
jpak
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States5045 Posts
March 17 2012 12:26 GMT
#344
On March 17 2012 21:21 Gamegene wrote:
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On March 17 2012 21:17 jpak wrote:
GSL is living off almost entirely on western viewer's support.

I doubt that that will change with OGN.


There would be no point in Blizzard offering OGN a contract then.


Oh, they are trying. Especially with LoL at their heels, they need to. I just don't believe that this will be able to change the korean SC2 scene, at least permanently.
CJ Entusman #50! #1 클템 fan TL!
Lyter
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2145 Posts
March 17 2012 12:27 GMT
#345
This is great, hopefully we will get some actual STRUCTURE in the scene, a teamleague like proleague is so much better than the random mishmash of stuff we have at the moment
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
March 17 2012 12:33 GMT
#346
On March 17 2012 21:27 Lyter wrote:
This is great, hopefully we will get some actual STRUCTURE in the scene, an organization like KeSPA is so much better than the random mishmash of stuff we have at the moment

Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
March 17 2012 12:39 GMT
#347
Welp, who knows how much of a hand Blizzard with have in this time.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
AzureHath
Profile Joined October 2011
Bulgaria154 Posts
March 17 2012 12:40 GMT
#348
Mike kickin' it oldschool, what a boss.
BW: iloveoov/JulyZerg/BoxeR/Midas/NaDa/Bisu[Shield] | SC2: IdrA/HuK/Grubby/WhiteRa/DIMAGA/JulyZerg/DongRaeGu
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
March 17 2012 12:43 GMT
#349
I hope GOM stays, rivarly is always good .
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13080 Posts
March 17 2012 12:47 GMT
#350
I dont mind if there is SC2 proleague as long as the BW proleague is there too.

Blizzard finaly realized their biggest mistake going against KESPA but it might be way too late unless they killed off the BW proleague.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
March 17 2012 12:47 GMT
#351
On March 17 2012 19:40 Perseverance wrote:
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On March 17 2012 19:33 Nikon wrote:
It would be rather swell if Blizzard would pick up Team 8 and prop it up once this shit launches. Doing so can only give them positive PR in Korea. I think you'd agree that that is something they really need at this point. Objectively speaking, SC2 can't just push out Brood War overnight. Artificially killing BW would cause a major uproar, so doing something like this could only be beneficial for all sides.


Plus Team 8 is BEAST!!!

God I NEED to see BW pros playing SC2.


I was talking about Blizzard sponsoring a BW team specifically, not bringing that team over to SC2 -.-;; If you want to watch BW pros play SC2 you can watch JulyZerg, Nada, MMA, MVP, NesTea, MC off the top of my head. Jeez...
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-17 12:52:19
March 17 2012 12:48 GMT
#352
On March 17 2012 21:26 jpak wrote:
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On March 17 2012 21:21 Gamegene wrote:
On March 17 2012 21:17 jpak wrote:
GSL is living off almost entirely on western viewer's support.

I doubt that that will change with OGN.


There would be no point in Blizzard offering OGN a contract then.


Oh, they are trying. Especially with LoL at their heels, they need to. I just don't believe that this will be able to change the korean SC2 scene, at least permanently.

Main income for Blizzard regarding SC2 is still box sale. Korea accounted for around 50% of worldwide copy sells of Starcraft 1. Just because of its popularity and deep ingraining in Korean culture. Thats a big portion of a pie, and i believe Blizzard not informing how well SC2 was received in Korea makes me think it was rather low. They finally understood that postering Seoul and buying out an advert on a Plane is not a way to go.
Stork[gm]
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
March 17 2012 12:50 GMT
#353
Tastosis defection incoming lol
I NEED A PHOTOSYNTHESIS! ||| 'airtoss' is an anagram of 'artosis' ||| SANGHOOOOOO ||| "No Korea? No problem. I have internet." -- Stardust
Stratchka
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria165 Posts
March 17 2012 12:50 GMT
#354
On March 17 2012 21:25 HejaBVB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2012 20:54 SeventhPride wrote:
On March 17 2012 20:51 HejaBVB wrote:
On March 17 2012 20:39 Denzil wrote:
Interesting to see how GomTV deals with this, obviously it'll require a lot of support from us to ensure survival.


who says MVP/NesTea and MMA will play for the ProLeague?

Who says they won't? I believe kespa won't stop them from entering. They should know sc2 is getting huge outside korea, and why avoid making money if it means people will watch them?


The most realisic scenario is: Players/Teams sign exclusive deals with GomTV or KesPa. So MMA/MVP/NesTea will only play for GomTV or KesPa, depending on who pays more/asks first.


That would be the worst possible scenario as it would just mean that brood war fans will be forced to watch an "inferior" game whereas the SC2 scene on the whole would not really profit.

On the other hand, if all teams (BW and SC2) would play both SC2 ProLeague and GSL, then this would be incredibly awesome! I hope SO MUCH that KeSPA won't put exclusive licences on their players!!
StarTale 화이팅!!!
Rumpus
Profile Joined August 2011
United States136 Posts
March 17 2012 12:51 GMT
#355
Is this....Blizzard....fixing...their....MIISSTTAAKKEEE!? If this is all true, I am so happy to see Blizzard attempt to turn things around. Damn it really feels like they put 100% effort into Diablo 3 and the second it seems like the weight is off their shoulders they start up with all the Starcraft 2 updates and what not.
Grammin'
kakaman
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1576 Posts
March 17 2012 12:55 GMT
#356
This will be like Pride vs K1 back in the old days of MMA. In the end you saw the two companies send representatives to battle out! So I am confident to see a Fantasy vs. MMA matchup soon.
Jedclark
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom903 Posts
March 17 2012 12:57 GMT
#357
SC2 proleague would be sick, plus if it is by OGN it would be a pretty good production. My only concern is would they try and shut out foreign audiences with no Tastosis/equivalent?
"They make it so scrubnubs can PM me. They make it so I can't ignore scrubnubs!" - "I'm gonna show you how great I am." MKP fan since GSL Open Season 2 #hipsternerd
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
March 17 2012 12:58 GMT
#358
Good move, they need to something now that LoL is exploding in SK.

I am not young enough to know everything.
XiGua
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden3085 Posts
March 17 2012 12:58 GMT
#359
Wahoo! :D
ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) APM, Why u make me spam?
nathangonmad
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom317 Posts
March 17 2012 12:59 GMT
#360
blizzard needs to move faster and make there game more accessible, lol is moving fast in korea.
Keep trying Leenock
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