wonder how many koreans will watch sc2 proleague on tv if the game there is like 18th played game in PC bangs? The Proleague will consist of BW,SC2 and SF2 probably, SC2 in no way will take over BW.

captainshards

39 Posts

March 17 2012 12:13 GMT

#331

As a follower of the scene since the early BW days, i am not the biggest fan of KeSPA. But those of you calling for foreigner seeds and help from Korean organizations to qualify should be ashamed. I know foreigners bring entertainment value to the scene but integrity is far more important. If foreigners are good enough they wont have a problem getting a license or whatever equivalent they will cook up. If they arent, they can do what every other player hoping to make a name for themselves has had to do in Korea... work their asses off and earn it.

I care only about the highest level of play, thats why i prefer Korean players. I do however enjoy seeing foreigners competing in Korean tournaments. But when i look in the booth and see a foreign player sitting there id much rather know that they got there through effort and talent, not being given a free seed to boost viewership. I suggest all new SC2 fans go watch some courage videos to gain some perspective on what it took to be a professional gamer in BW. I love the loose and fun "everyone can play" attitude SC2 has brought, but im personally ready to see it become serious again as it was in BW, where you are either good, or you leave. Let the foreigners earn their place.

Take a look at Nony's courage video:

Xxio

Canada5565 Posts

March 17 2012 12:14 GMT

#332

I think a large part of StarCraft's success as an esport comes from its ability to attract people who don't play the game.

Yea Captain, it's so much more meaningful when foreigners have to work for it.
Ret fighting his hardest to get through Courage > random person given token charity spot in ro32.

pStar

996 Posts

March 17 2012 12:16 GMT

#333

On March 17 2012 21:09 Xxio wrote:

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It's not. The system isn't very different from what GOM currently does. I prefer licensing though, it's like RL GrandMaster league.

So how is it possible to get upcoming talent into the leagues?

You have to stop thinking from a BW mentality. In BW, when a player became really dominant he stayed there for months. This is a completely in SC2, the dominant players change so much and get beaten by less skilled players so regularly enforcing pro gaming licenses would just mean a stagnant competition.

jpak

United States5045 Posts

March 17 2012 12:17 GMT

#334

GSL is living off almost entirely on western viewer's support.

I doubt that that will change with OGN.

Bengui

Canada775 Posts

March 17 2012 12:18 GMT

#335

On March 17 2012 21:06 TheKefka wrote:

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Of course its not,its a really effective way of weeding out bad players from the start and bringing talent into the teams and leagues.

The current GOMTV system is an effective way of weeding out bad players. I just wish they would stop giving seeds away for free...

Fragile51

Netherlands15767 Posts

March 17 2012 12:20 GMT

#336

On March 17 2012 21:18 Bengui wrote:

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The current GOMTV system is an effective way of weeding out bad players. I just wish they would stop giving seeds away for free...

Agree that they shouldn't give away seeds for free, but i don't have problems with giving away seeds for placing highly in other tournaments. Without those MMA and DRG would probably still be in Code A/B..

corumjhaelen

France6884 Posts

March 17 2012 12:20 GMT

#337

Mike Morhaime, after not caring for 10 years, after suing MBC, after all those stupid disputes, finally decides to come to a bw game. It was obviously for its burial.
Funnily enough, I'm pretty mad about the move.
As for the sc2 PL, it was pretty obvious it was bound to happen soon. Terrible move.

Sawamura

Malaysia7602 Posts

March 17 2012 12:20 GMT

#338

On March 17 2012 21:16 pStar wrote:

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No one becomes really dominant and stays there for months . So many up and down's can happen especially in proleague and we are talking about pro gaming licenses here, bw system means player has to go through qualifiers and ton's of competition to get the most sought after pro gaming license . Hence only a few players will be able to get it and those who do get it are the cream of de coupe of the bunch of players . Sc2 having these will whittle down the no namers and ensure only the best get's in .