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On March 16 2012 07:52 snailz wrote:
no, sc2 UI is not "excellent and well tought out", and while i see why you would say such a thing (to get the job), you're dishonest and i would never hire you
a kick in the ass is also a step forward, and that's what blizzard needs atm the most, not lies to keep their egos safe from the truth
make a video where you critize them and adress the real problems in UI, and you get my respect. new ideas, not candy stuff: meaning its nice, but at the end of the day wont make much of a difference. band aid of sorts
also, everything Ashur said.
There are plenty of videos and posts critizing blizzard, what this guy did was think of a change then actually took steps to get it done, and out there for blizzard to see. Posts like ashur's have been seen before and blizzard obviously obviously doesn't care
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When I saw the title I figured it was going to be another crap thread that would end up being closed with the last post being 'This isn't the bnet forums'. I am happy to say I was very mistaken.
While I do agree with others that the UI is probably better off just being blown up and recreated, that's probably not the best way to apply to a company, and what you have proposed is functional, helpful features that complement the existing UI very well. I really hope you get the job, and maybe then you can implement some more radical changes 
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On March 16 2012 08:06 Myles wrote:When I saw the title I figured it was going to be another crap thread that would end up being closed with the last post being 'This isn't the bnet forums'. I am happy to say I was very mistaken. While I do agree with others that the UI is probably better off just being blown up and recreated, that's probably not the best way to apply to a company, and what you have proposed is functional, helpful features that complement the existing UI very well. I really hope you get the job, and maybe then you can implement some more radical changes
Glad I could surprise you on that one. I tried to keep the video focused on just a few points, and keep it positive. Look we all love the game... no sense trashing it over a few flaws with the interface. Make lemonade out of lemons you know?
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Very good stuff, rooting for you and your ideas to make it.
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Dramatic music makes it so much better :D
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On March 16 2012 07:40 BearStorm wrote:
Wow what a great job! This is such a great post for several reasons:
1) It adds something that is worth discussing and can be discussed by everyone for something that can possibly happen.
2) The suggestions are fantastic and gives readers (hopefully Blizzard) a concrete example of what should change and why.
3) It is a great example of how a suggestion thread should be made. A lot of thought and testing goes into it so that people will take the suggestions seriously when they respond.
4) It shows iniative. People tend to complain so much but don't want to do anything about it except complain.
5) Lastly it is short and concise so that internet dwellers can read and digest the whole post before giving a response.
Thank you so much for posting this. It made my day and I wish more people were like you. Best of luck getting a job with Blizzard!
My pleasure man. I wish I could have done it better or hit more points, but you are exactly right about keeping it short and concise. I figured if it went much longer than 6 or 7 minutes people would get bored. I tried to keep it visually interesting for the most part, and just focus on the things that fit into a cohesive theme. In retrospect I wish I would have used more words for content and less flowery language... but it is supposed to be a love letter to Blizzard in a way, and I did not want it to come across as attacking. (Plus I was trying to spoof Apple a bit at first... and yeah they love their buzzwords lol.)
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On March 16 2012 08:13 MaV_gGSC wrote:
Dramatic music makes it so much better :D
That credit goes to Mr. DXC Komo, I just edited the filed to fit what I was saying.
http://soundcloud.com/dxcmc/pleyel-piano
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this is just the tip of the iceberg, you only focused on one aspect of the UI that needs work, really hope they go this direction and improve the social aspect of Bnet as well
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On March 16 2012 07:39 LittLeD wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2012 07:36 GizmoPT wrote:On March 16 2012 06:24 Ashur wrote:
I do not like those changes but icons in replays. Suggestions are useless for daily purpose. I mean, StarCraft II Bnet UI needs to be changed completely, not just to move this and that and add minor feature. Those requirements are in several threads already
1) Shared replays
1a) Serverside saved replays (anyone can just view my public replays, till I click just played game as "do not publish")
2) Be able to move to the middle or end of the replay immediately
3) Public chat channels
4) Chat commands (/whisper, /ignore, /join, /creategame) we are not xbox dumbasses to click 3 times to whisper, right?
5) Be able to join game from chat via clicking a button ("Observe" for example, when someone left channel and started new public game)
6) Be able to join game after it started, or this might be a feature to prevent cheating - see the real content with a slight 2 min delay
7) Statistics in UI (sc2 ranks stats for my profile, for our teams, its just numbers)
8) An option to show/hide my win/loss ratio to myself/others
9) Clan support
10) E-sports support, why I cannot see replays from games (perhaps with audio) and I have to see a stream? Why is there no stream directly in game UI when this event has Blizzard as a sponsor/partner?
11) Map market
11a) Model market, why you do not make some new models (e.g. CE Thor) of units paid for Blizzbucks?
12) Simplify it, I am just too lazy to click same sequence of tabs/buttons/scroll/rightclicks over and over
13) Screw realms, make it global as it used to be
14) Charts, more charts in game for casters, and more charts in BN UI to analyze. What about chart for income, for unit loss etc.
I mean, game itself is perfect, but whoever made current Battle.NET UI 2.0 just failed. It sucks. It definitely sucks.
Blizzard should be leader in game industry, so far I see that people are complaining. Other companies do a lot - a lot more, to make their games user friendly. It's sad. Oh and BTW So far it seems that D3 socializing will have same "empty" syndrom as SC2 has. blizzard should hire this guy Thing is, this isn't exactly uncommon knowledge and has been discussed since forever. What we need though is a guy just like OP who can present the changes and the solutions that needs to be made in a clear and easily understandable fashion to get the word more out there. And if Blizzard hired this guy, I would be extremely excited for the future.
The main thing is how small these changes are, how I cannot fanthom that they are hard to program and how much they'd impact the playing experience.
There are plenty of things, more drastic that one can think of(and the multi-view replay is one that always goes on #1), but those kind of things can be quite hard to change, if even possible, are a straight decision making(albeit poor) move by blizzard(the multi-server money plot comes to mind) and can even just be hard to sell the developers/higher ups at Blizzard.
These are all quite straight up changes, clear improvement because the person that implemented bnet 2.0 has clearly never played on it.
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On March 16 2012 08:03 Sylailene wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2012 07:52 snailz wrote:
no, sc2 UI is not "excellent and well tought out", and while i see why you would say such a thing (to get the job), you're dishonest and i would never hire you
a kick in the ass is also a step forward, and that's what blizzard needs atm the most, not lies to keep their egos safe from the truth
make a video where you critize them and adress the real problems in UI, and you get my respect. new ideas, not candy stuff: meaning its nice, but at the end of the day wont make much of a difference. band aid of sorts
also, everything Ashur said. There are plenty of videos and posts critizing blizzard, what this guy did was think of a change then actually took steps to get it done, and out there for blizzard to see. Posts like ashur's have been seen before and blizzard obviously obviously doesn't care
yeah thats why i said "while i see why you would say such a thing"
but his suggestions are honestly nothing but a glorified band-aid, it really wont change anything significantly enough for me to go "OMFG hire this guy!!!11"
ghost town effect on bnet, and other things that Ashur mentioned are whats important, but blizz declines to adress them
edit: to the OP, sorry if i came off strong, its just venting
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The video is pretty good, but I feel like the only real issue here is that the OP doesn't have a full understanding of the programming of Battle.net. I'm not saying that I do because I don't really, but I imagine some of the changes the OP has slated are more difficult to implement than people think. Specifically the sending of replays to friends and catagory changes.
What it comes down to is: many people can think of ways to change the UI and create buttons to do so, not as many know how to practically implement them.
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What a fantastic job - this deserves to be spotlighted. I truly hope Blizzard gives you that job.
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do this for the chat channel too please
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hmm, where's this advertised? I'm totally going to apply for it too :p
my presentation will be scratched on a piece of paper though
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really would not mind if blizz hired you, from what you've shown us you have a very good understanding of how people actually interact with the UI. The whole concept of linking replays to match history is really clever, and makes a lot of sense regardless of what league you are in or how casual of a player you are.
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I like your ideas, hope it goes well for you
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i stopped at 2:59.
i just wanna point out, you cant link your match history/score screen with the replay for each game
replays are stored on your computer, your match history is stored on your account. this is the reason that you can watch other peoples replays. if you wanted to combine match history and replays like that, blizzard wuold have to save a copy of every single replay ever played, one for each person in a game. the amount of memory it would require would be enormous.
ok, ill watch the rest now
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if you get hired i'm going to be directing all of my blizzard rage to your PM box!
gl hf gg
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I was just going to make a thread about this. This work is A-M-A-Z-I-N-G. Get that goddamn job!
And maybe add a dedicated chat channel tab, would improve the social aspects of the game tremedously.
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