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MrTortoise
1388 Posts
On March 15 2012 20:05 Sporadic44 wrote: I think in regards to being professional, he can deal with shaving his beard for work. I doubt he loses sleep over shaving How does having a beard make anyone less professional? If an employer doesnt want me to have my beard and discriminates against me for it i take the fucker to court. | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On March 15 2012 21:22 MrTortoise wrote: How does having a beard make anyone less professional? If an employer doesnt want me to have my beard and discriminates against me for it i take the fucker to court. It does for some people obviously. Being professional or not, everything is a matter of opinion. | ||
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
On March 15 2012 21:20 Psychobabas wrote: hahah wow so in the US an employer can fire you for growing a beard? I can just imagine a company trying to impose that here lol. good stuff xD Most companies have dress/grooming codes all employees are expected to follow. Since all employees have contractually agreed to these codes, not following them is breach of contract and cause for termination. (The 911 company I worked for allowed dispatchers to have facial hair, however firefighters/medics could not have anything below the corners of the mouth - mustache only - and it had to be trimmed (nothing longer than ~7-8mm iirc). Wolf just said he doesn't actually want to have a beard so it's just a matter of being clean shaved (and that seldom looks professional imo). | ||
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Pure Luck
United States10 Posts
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MrTortoise
1388 Posts
There is no some people about it. Some things are cultural and discriminating against that is just thiny veiled bigotry. There are many many examples of beards that are in no way unprofessional threfore beards in themselves are not unprofessional. | ||
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Bodzilla
Australia472 Posts
as long as you keep it trim they're awesome. | ||
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Psychobabas
2531 Posts
On March 15 2012 21:26 y0su wrote: Most companies have dress/grooming codes all employees are expected to follow. Since all employees have contractually agreed to these codes, not following them is breach of contract and cause for termination. (The 911 company I worked for allowed dispatchers to have facial hair, however firefighters/medics could not have anything below the corners of the mouth - mustache only - and it had to be trimmed (nothing longer than ~7-8mm iirc). Wolf just said he doesn't actually want to have a beard so it's just a matter of being clean shaved (and that seldom looks professional imo). Well ok. that stuff just doesnt exist in the UK, unless you are in the army. Even firefighters are allowed to have a beard up to a certain length. Regarding working in an office, retail etc there is no such thing. | ||
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MrTortoise
1388 Posts
Its like time keeping, identify that the company thinks both statements should be true 1) work 37.5 hours a week 2) working 9-5:30 and you have found a company that doesn't give a shit about its employees. | ||
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gruff
Sweden2276 Posts
On March 15 2012 21:12 Mementoss wrote: I'm pretty sure gomtv doesn't want it to look like they picked the first homeless guy on the street to cast their tournament worth thousands and thousands of dollars in prize money. I know many people with beards that don't look homeless... By that logic they shouldn't have hired Khaldor because some people might think he's a neo-nazi due to his shaved head. | ||
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Haydin
United States1481 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/aD7A6.jpg) EDIT: Also wolf don't whine about shaving being the worst part about being a dude ladies have it way worse. | ||
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halfies
United Kingdom327 Posts
On March 15 2012 21:20 Psychobabas wrote: hahah wow so in the US an employer can fire you for growing a beard? I can just imagine a company trying to impose that here lol. good stuff xD ummmmm. you clearly have no idea what your talking about. almost every job that involves contact with customers has an attached dress code, and that dress code almost always include rules on grooming. its often just 'if you have a beard it must be neat', but it can easily be 'you must be clean shaven'. and im talking about in the uk here. i know because its on the wall of the staff room where i work, and i work for tescos, which is the biggest private sector employer in the uk | ||
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Monsen
Germany2548 Posts
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ceaRshaf
Romania4926 Posts
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Baum
Germany1010 Posts
On March 15 2012 21:25 JustPassingBy wrote: It does for some people obviously. Being professional or not, everything is a matter of opinion. Great, so you acknowledge the fact that "being professional" is highly relative, so why should you abide arbitrary rules that make you more "professional". Why should we abide arbitrary behaviorial rules anyways. | ||
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Skilledblob
Germany3392 Posts
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Talanthalos
Germany153 Posts
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regiment
Germany51 Posts
But to be honest I don't think it would suit him.  | ||
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Uhh Negative
United States1090 Posts
On March 15 2012 21:48 Baum wrote: Great, so you acknowledge the fact that "being professional" is highly relative, so why should you abide arbitrary rules that make you more "professional". Why should we abide arbitrary behaviorial rules anyways. Because the people paying you care. Lots of places require you to shave. It's not a big deal really. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On March 15 2012 21:22 MrTortoise wrote: How does having a beard make anyone less professional? If an employer doesnt want me to have my beard and discriminates against me for it i take the fucker to court. The point of the matter is you still have to groom it. I have to shave everyday or else I'll have a beard before you know it. Nothing wrong with having one (most women I know cannot stand it). If I go down that road I constantly have to do maintenance to it for hygienic and work purposes especially in Wolf's case. It applies to everything. Not too long ago a guy wrote a blog about his job in security job on this very website. He wanted to live a minimalist life and decided he wanted to see how long he could grow out his beard. His employer took notice and told him they would terminate him unless he trimmed it. On March 15 2012 21:40 Haydin wrote: Also wolf don't whine about shaving being the worst part about being a dude ladies have it way worse. So true. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On March 15 2012 22:03 Uhh Negative wrote: Because the people paying you care. Lots of places require you to shave. It's not a big deal really. It's also worth noting that Wolf does have a job that entails face time on a camera, right? So that probably factors into it more than if your job was to like work at a computer or something. | ||
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