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MrTortoise
Profile Joined January 2011
1388 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-15 12:24:21
March 15 2012 12:22 GMT
#61
On March 15 2012 20:05 Sporadic44 wrote:
I think in regards to being professional, he can deal with shaving his beard for work. I doubt he loses sleep over shaving



How does having a beard make anyone less professional?

If an employer doesnt want me to have my beard and discriminates against me for it i take the fucker to court.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
March 15 2012 12:25 GMT
#62
On March 15 2012 21:22 MrTortoise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 20:05 Sporadic44 wrote:
I think in regards to being professional, he can deal with shaving his beard for work. I doubt he loses sleep over shaving



How does having a beard make anyone less professional?

If an employer doesnt want me to have my beard and discriminates against me for it i take the fucker to court.


It does for some people obviously. Being professional or not, everything is a matter of opinion.
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
March 15 2012 12:26 GMT
#63
On March 15 2012 21:20 Psychobabas wrote:
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On March 15 2012 20:14 CaptainCrush wrote:
This is one of the more absurd threads I have ever seen on TL... and that's saying something. Honestly, grow up children, this is very standard in the real world. If your employer doesnt want you to have a beard, then you dont have one. There is no "social condition", you either shave it or find a new job, end of story. I dont like shaving every day either, but you know what? I do it anyways cause it gets me a paycheck....


hahah wow so in the US an employer can fire you for growing a beard? I can just imagine a company trying to impose that here lol. good stuff xD


Most companies have dress/grooming codes all employees are expected to follow. Since all employees have contractually agreed to these codes, not following them is breach of contract and cause for termination. (The 911 company I worked for allowed dispatchers to have facial hair, however firefighters/medics could not have anything below the corners of the mouth - mustache only - and it had to be trimmed (nothing longer than ~7-8mm iirc).


Wolf just said he doesn't actually want to have a beard so it's just a matter of being clean shaved (and that seldom looks professional imo).
Pure Luck
Profile Joined March 2011
United States10 Posts
March 15 2012 12:26 GMT
#64
I think he would look awesome Handlebar mustache.
MrTortoise
Profile Joined January 2011
1388 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-15 12:32:52
March 15 2012 12:27 GMT
#65
Yeah but some things are subjective ... those things you HAVE to put aside or you ARE being unprofessional.

There is no some people about it. Some things are cultural and discriminating against that is just thiny veiled bigotry.


There are many many examples of beards that are in no way unprofessional threfore beards in themselves are not unprofessional.


Bodzilla
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia472 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-15 12:29:21
March 15 2012 12:28 GMT
#66
as a bro that shaved for a full year straight, i'm now rocking the beard and mo and loving it.

as long as you keep it trim they're awesome.
when life gives you lemons, make banelings
Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
March 15 2012 12:31 GMT
#67
On March 15 2012 21:26 y0su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 21:20 Psychobabas wrote:
On March 15 2012 20:14 CaptainCrush wrote:
This is one of the more absurd threads I have ever seen on TL... and that's saying something. Honestly, grow up children, this is very standard in the real world. If your employer doesnt want you to have a beard, then you dont have one. There is no "social condition", you either shave it or find a new job, end of story. I dont like shaving every day either, but you know what? I do it anyways cause it gets me a paycheck....


hahah wow so in the US an employer can fire you for growing a beard? I can just imagine a company trying to impose that here lol. good stuff xD


Most companies have dress/grooming codes all employees are expected to follow. Since all employees have contractually agreed to these codes, not following them is breach of contract and cause for termination. (The 911 company I worked for allowed dispatchers to have facial hair, however firefighters/medics could not have anything below the corners of the mouth - mustache only - and it had to be trimmed (nothing longer than ~7-8mm iirc).


Wolf just said he doesn't actually want to have a beard so it's just a matter of being clean shaved (and that seldom looks professional imo).


Well ok.

that stuff just doesnt exist in the UK, unless you are in the army.

Even firefighters are allowed to have a beard up to a certain length.

Regarding working in an office, retail etc there is no such thing.
MrTortoise
Profile Joined January 2011
1388 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-15 12:36:37
March 15 2012 12:35 GMT
#68
One good thing about having a beard is that it helps you identify small minded people you don't want to work for very quickly. Some people think getting your work done on time and to spec is not as important as the color of your shirt.

Its like time keeping, identify that the company thinks both statements should be true
1) work 37.5 hours a week 2) working 9-5:30
and you have found a company that doesn't give a shit about its employees.

gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-15 12:36:23
March 15 2012 12:35 GMT
#69
On March 15 2012 21:12 Mementoss wrote:
I'm pretty sure gomtv doesn't want it to look like they picked the first homeless guy on the street to cast their tournament worth thousands and thousands of dollars in prize money.

I know many people with beards that don't look homeless... By that logic they shouldn't have hired Khaldor because some people might think he's a neo-nazi due to his shaved head.
Haydin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1481 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-15 12:42:17
March 15 2012 12:40 GMT
#70
While I am not really a fan of Wolf, and find him annoying, I do whole heartedly approve of him growing not a beard, but this mustache:
[image loading]

EDIT: Also wolf don't whine about shaving being the worst part about being a dude ladies have it way worse.
aka ilovesharkpeople
halfies
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom327 Posts
March 15 2012 12:40 GMT
#71
On March 15 2012 21:20 Psychobabas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 20:14 CaptainCrush wrote:
This is one of the more absurd threads I have ever seen on TL... and that's saying something. Honestly, grow up children, this is very standard in the real world. If your employer doesnt want you to have a beard, then you dont have one. There is no "social condition", you either shave it or find a new job, end of story. I dont like shaving every day either, but you know what? I do it anyways cause it gets me a paycheck....


hahah wow so in the US an employer can fire you for growing a beard? I can just imagine a company trying to impose that here lol. good stuff xD

ummmmm. you clearly have no idea what your talking about. almost every job that involves contact with customers has an attached dress code, and that dress code almost always include rules on grooming. its often just 'if you have a beard it must be neat', but it can easily be 'you must be clean shaven'. and im talking about in the uk here. i know because its on the wall of the staff room where i work, and i work for tescos, which is the biggest private sector employer in the uk
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
March 15 2012 12:40 GMT
#72
Op needs beard/beardless pics.
11 years and counting- TL #680
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
March 15 2012 12:46 GMT
#73
I would like the casters to look presentable. I have nothing against shaved, but I might have against unshaved (don't know how he looks with a beard). So better stick to what it works.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Baum
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1010 Posts
March 15 2012 12:48 GMT
#74
On March 15 2012 21:25 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 21:22 MrTortoise wrote:
On March 15 2012 20:05 Sporadic44 wrote:
I think in regards to being professional, he can deal with shaving his beard for work. I doubt he loses sleep over shaving



How does having a beard make anyone less professional?

If an employer doesnt want me to have my beard and discriminates against me for it i take the fucker to court.


It does for some people obviously. Being professional or not, everything is a matter of opinion.


Great, so you acknowledge the fact that "being professional" is highly relative, so why should you abide arbitrary rules that make you more "professional". Why should we abide arbitrary behaviorial rules anyways.
I want to be with those who share secret things or else alone.
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
March 15 2012 12:49 GMT
#75
it's clearly only because most asians cant grow a proper beard. I mean who wouldnt be impressed after seeing a sight like this?

[image loading]

Talanthalos
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany153 Posts
March 15 2012 12:56 GMT
#76
His name is f'ing Wolf, he should be required to have a beard.
regiment
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany51 Posts
March 15 2012 12:58 GMT
#77
Judging at how handsome TotalBiscuit looks since he got a beard I say: What's a Wolf without fur?

But to be honest I don't think it would suit him.
<Alipha> ..can you fax me some paper for my printer?
Uhh Negative
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1090 Posts
March 15 2012 13:03 GMT
#78
On March 15 2012 21:48 Baum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 21:25 JustPassingBy wrote:
On March 15 2012 21:22 MrTortoise wrote:
On March 15 2012 20:05 Sporadic44 wrote:
I think in regards to being professional, he can deal with shaving his beard for work. I doubt he loses sleep over shaving



How does having a beard make anyone less professional?

If an employer doesnt want me to have my beard and discriminates against me for it i take the fucker to court.


It does for some people obviously. Being professional or not, everything is a matter of opinion.


Great, so you acknowledge the fact that "being professional" is highly relative, so why should you abide arbitrary rules that make you more "professional". Why should we abide arbitrary behaviorial rules anyways.

Because the people paying you care. Lots of places require you to shave. It's not a big deal really.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-15 13:11:02
March 15 2012 13:09 GMT
#79
On March 15 2012 21:22 MrTortoise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 20:05 Sporadic44 wrote:
I think in regards to being professional, he can deal with shaving his beard for work. I doubt he loses sleep over shaving



How does having a beard make anyone less professional?

If an employer doesnt want me to have my beard and discriminates against me for it i take the fucker to court.


The point of the matter is you still have to groom it. I have to shave everyday or else I'll have a beard before you know it. Nothing wrong with having one (most women I know cannot stand it). If I go down that road I constantly have to do maintenance to it for hygienic and work purposes especially in Wolf's case.

It applies to everything. Not too long ago a guy wrote a blog about his job in security job on this very website. He wanted to live a minimalist life and decided he wanted to see how long he could grow out his beard. His employer took notice and told him they would terminate him unless he trimmed it.

On March 15 2012 21:40 Haydin wrote:
Also wolf don't whine about shaving being the worst part about being a dude ladies have it way worse.


So true.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
March 15 2012 13:09 GMT
#80
On March 15 2012 22:03 Uhh Negative wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 21:48 Baum wrote:
On March 15 2012 21:25 JustPassingBy wrote:
On March 15 2012 21:22 MrTortoise wrote:
On March 15 2012 20:05 Sporadic44 wrote:
I think in regards to being professional, he can deal with shaving his beard for work. I doubt he loses sleep over shaving



How does having a beard make anyone less professional?

If an employer doesnt want me to have my beard and discriminates against me for it i take the fucker to court.


It does for some people obviously. Being professional or not, everything is a matter of opinion.


Great, so you acknowledge the fact that "being professional" is highly relative, so why should you abide arbitrary rules that make you more "professional". Why should we abide arbitrary behaviorial rules anyways.

Because the people paying you care. Lots of places require you to shave. It's not a big deal really.


It's also worth noting that Wolf does have a job that entails face time on a camera, right? So that probably factors into it more than if your job was to like work at a computer or something.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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