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jeffvip
Profile Joined June 2011
211 Posts
March 14 2012 01:48 GMT
#61
Korhal for me is such a bad map. It's feel like a plain map with a few high ground. It's too simple and too many counter attack path
Marine is Terran strongest unit but it might be Terran's biggest weakness. Bcos of Marine so OP, other Terran unit regrettably have to be weak..
monitor
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2408 Posts
March 14 2012 01:48 GMT
#62
On March 14 2012 10:40 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2012 10:21 monitor wrote:
Copied from my post on the blog,

As the creator of Korhal Compound, I voted to remove Shakuras Plateau. Why?

Almost no tournaments use Metalopolis, TalDarim, or Shattered Temple- so I don't care that they're in ladder because I'll downvote them. However, tournaments do use Shakuras Plateau - it's really old and considered fairly imbalanced (see TLPD statistics). Removing it from ladder would realistically remove it from competitive play.

You really, really, really need to put the 3rd on Korhal in a less retarded location =.=


Working on it Some details would be appreciated though!
https://liquipedia.net/starcraft2/Monitor
FreudianTrip
Profile Joined July 2011
Switzerland1983 Posts
March 14 2012 01:48 GMT
#63
On March 14 2012 10:21 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Fuck, Shattered or Metal so difficult to choose -_-


I would have thought a Terran would have loved Close-Air Shattered? Am I just bad and get destroyed by drops constantly?
TheAngelofDeath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2033 Posts
March 14 2012 01:50 GMT
#64
On March 14 2012 10:48 FreudianTrip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2012 10:21 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Fuck, Shattered or Metal so difficult to choose -_-


I would have thought a Terran would have loved Close-Air Shattered? Am I just bad and get destroyed by drops constantly?



It's Jinro. The same God Terran who said he hated Meta back when close spawns were possible, because of close spawns. Shattered is terrible, plain and simple.
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Lightswarm
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada967 Posts
March 14 2012 01:51 GMT
#65
I posted this in the comments of the link but it will probably be ignored by blizzard (actually my post will probably be ignored PERIOD)

The main problem with the map pool is that there are simply too many maps. What this does is force players to take a very general approach to strategies on all the maps instead of figuring out the map in its entirety. Of course, having only 5 maps can be very stale for 2 months for players. What I suggest (and this will most likely be ignored) is to take a more active role by blizzard in the map pool. For example, for 2 weeks, allow only 5 maps in the rotation with 1 veto; 4 maps is a manageable amount to practice for tournaments. The following 2 weeks will include a different set of maps with possibly the inclusion of the most popular map (the one least veto'ed) carrying over for only 1 week before switched out. This system allows players to be specialized in specific maps (more), introduce a dynamic play with different maps in the rotation, and allow upcoming maps to be tested by the public
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Ookpik
Profile Joined September 2011
12 Posts
March 14 2012 01:51 GMT
#66
On March 14 2012 10:19 Severus_ wrote:
OMG Ohana is the worst map possible back door nat and no 3rd anywhere if you are P or T..... I played it couple of times in playhem maybe I'm bad but i don't like this map.


is this before or after they changed it?
because there's no backdoor into the nat
and there seems to be a fairly obvious third that is relatively easy to wall off
RezChi
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2368 Posts
March 14 2012 01:51 GMT
#67
Shattered, pained in the ass
JOJOsc2news
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
3000 Posts
March 14 2012 01:53 GMT
#68
Because I really couldn't choose between Metalopolis and Shattered Temple I ended up voting Tal'Darim because of the sad state of PvP on that map. The fact that Shattered and Meta are vetoed by me might have added to that decision.

Uhh...
I feel dirty now.
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Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
March 14 2012 01:53 GMT
#69
On March 14 2012 10:42 Cereb wrote:
I wish I could get more people to vote for ffffuuu....... Entomed Valley. It's probably top 3 worst map in the last year from a Zerg perspective! It's litterally bad in every single match up.

Vs toss if you let them come into the natural or third area you might as well GG out. The ridiculously small corriodors can litterally block of your entire army with just 2 force fields! Also there is noooo way to attack the protoss third. I have had massive lead where I could usually end the game, but because they can wall everything of with a bare minimum of buildings AND it's all high ground - it's litterally impenetrable.

Vs Zerg you cannot do any kind of early expand play. The ramp is miles away from the natural making both spines and queens at the ramp incredibly bad and both are a necessity if you want to expand. So you are basically forced into bane wars, which is silly since the map is already huge. It's litterally the same as a map in pvp where you are more or less forced to 4 gate.

Vs Terran it's semi okay - As long as it's not close position! If it's close then you cannot take your natural third forcing you to expand soo far away which makes defending against drops incredibly hard and even if you get the drop you are going to have a massive tank marine force right out side your base. It's kinda okay in the other positions but once again - you cannot attack the third at all which is kinda bad design.

***The Remove Entomed Valley March 2012 Campaign***


You should see the games where zergs make a wall of spinecrawlers and slow push across the map with brood lord infestor while you think to yourself "WTF does Protoss do to that?" I agree close positions suck, but all in all it's actually a pretty decent map.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
Kharnage
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia920 Posts
March 14 2012 01:56 GMT
#70
Since I'm Protoss I'm voting Tal'Darim.
No main ramp == no map
corpuscle
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1967 Posts
March 14 2012 01:56 GMT
#71
Wish there was an option to vote "MAKE IT FUCKING CROSS ONLY LIKE EVERY GODDAMN TOURNAMENT"
From the void I am born into wave and particle
Roija
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States84 Posts
March 14 2012 01:56 GMT
#72
voted tal'darim, would also vote entomb if i had another vote.
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
March 14 2012 01:57 GMT
#73
Entombed would be my first choice, followed by Tal'Darim.
Trsjnica
Profile Joined April 2011
United States477 Posts
March 14 2012 01:58 GMT
#74
I voted Tal'Darim, although I'd also be happy to see Metal and Shakura's go.
IMHope
Profile Joined February 2011
Korea (South)1241 Posts
March 14 2012 01:58 GMT
#75
Would like to see Tal'Darim go the most. I like what blizzard has been doing lately with adding and removing maps.
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Vetrocide
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway600 Posts
March 14 2012 01:58 GMT
#76
im suprised entombed valley isnt 100% lol. that map is one of the worst ever made
The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal
Jaegeru
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom676 Posts
March 14 2012 01:59 GMT
#77
Time to see the old maps like metal, shakuras and shattered die.
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SYGY
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada88 Posts
March 14 2012 01:59 GMT
#78
Metalopolis & The Shattered Temple.
sc:WOL [Masters] sc:BW [Unranked]
-Exalt-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States972 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-14 02:00:42
March 14 2012 02:00 GMT
#79
I like shattered. At least I can play a normal PvP on it unlike Tal'darim... Sorry, I want to practice actual PvP not mindless 4 gate vs 4 gate who can be more greedy and still defend etcetc

Unfortunately, due to the insane amount of bad zergs on the bnet forums they will vote out Shattered.
Xorphene
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom492 Posts
March 14 2012 02:00 GMT
#80
Shattered out please.

I can veto Entombed, Shakuras and Tal.
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