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Seraphone
United Kingdom1219 Posts
That's about the only thing you could say in Naniwa's favour (except that Naniwa beat Stephano 2-0 at Dreamhack). Aside from that Stephano surpasses Naniwa in all areas. I think Naniwa could win for sure, he certainly wouldn't leave Stephano to build 6 bases, 40 spines and 15 Broods like most EU Protoss do. | ||
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raiZo
Germany60 Posts
Since the Homestory Cup Stephano´s PvsZ and overall his gameplay improved so much, he has the highest pvsz winrate in EU, 74%. Naniwa is for sure not an easy going for stephano, but he will win. I dont know if you know it, but stephano was in korea for a while, maybe 2 months and after 1 months he was a high level grandmaster player there and beat almost every GSL Code S player in ladder. I think he just to strong at the moment, but maybe naniwa will show me the opposite of my predictions ;-) Well will be awesome anyway. | ||
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Rhaegar_tar
France847 Posts
On March 11 2012 11:10 1Eris1 wrote: No he didn't...he just said that they have similar styles. I've never seen MC drop a game to Stephano, even on ladder. Please don't just make up stuff if your not going to provide sources. He did on ladder...when MC picked Zerg...Not sure if they met after that. | ||
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ohampatu
United States1448 Posts
On March 11 2012 11:08 Rhaegar_tar wrote: Euh no, i consider people who perform poorly (and that's an euphemisim) in korea and don't manage to win international tourneys not really good. Are you one of the people that count wins only? and dont look at the context of the games? Naniwa is a bit better than 'really good' he did amazing at blizzcup, and almost went through the round-bobin stage, against top class opponenets last 2 mlg's he has played amazing vs koreans. Losing to DRG, who is currently best zvp in the world. This showmatch would be good. Would be way closer than any other showmatch weve had, and of a quality worthy of finals. | ||
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1Eris1
United States5797 Posts
On March 11 2012 11:11 raiZo wrote: Mc said: He think DRG and Stephano are on the same Level, the rest zergs are little DRG... Since the Homestory Cup Stephano´s PvsZ and overall his gameplay improved so much, he has the highest pvsz winrate in EU, 74%. Naniwa is for sure not an easy going for stephano, but he will win. I dont know if you know it, but stephano was in korea for a while, maybe 2 months and after 1 months he was a high level grandmaster player there and beat almost every GSL Code S player in ladder. I think he just to strong at the moment, but maybe naniwa will show me the opposite of my predictions ;-) Well will be awesome anyway. Can you post the link please? Your MC quotes aren't even coherent. | ||
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Seraphone
United Kingdom1219 Posts
On March 11 2012 11:11 raiZo wrote: Mc said: He think DRG and Stephano are on the same Level, the rest zergs are little DRG... Since the Homestory Cup Stephano´s PvsZ and overall his gameplay improved so much, he has the highest pvsz winrate in EU, 74%. Naniwa is for sure not an easy going for stephano, but he will win. I dont know if you know it, but stephano was in korea for a while, maybe 2 months and after 1 months he was a high level grandmaster player there and beat almost every GSL Code S player in ladder. I think he just to strong at the moment, but maybe naniwa will show me the opposite of my predictions ;-) Well will be awesome anyway. People say a lot of things, talk is very cheap. Especially Koreans have been saying foreigners are as good as Koreans every interview for the past 18 months, and yet results and common sense say otherwise. MC is 5-0 vs Stephano where as he has a losing record vs DRG. He didn't even mean that anyway, he meant they play the same style of gasless fast three bases which MC said he likes to punish via two base all in's. | ||
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Rhaegar_tar
France847 Posts
On March 11 2012 11:12 ohampatu wrote: Are you one of the people that count wins only? and dont look at the context of the games? Naniwa is a bit better than 'really good' he did amazing at blizzcup, and almost went through the round-bobin stage, against top class opponenets last 2 mlg's he has played amazing vs koreans. Losing to DRG, who is currently best zvp in the world. This showmatch would be good. Would be way closer than any other showmatch weve had, and of a quality worthy of finals. do you mean blizzcup when he went 0-4, lol... | ||
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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
On March 11 2012 11:02 SenorChang wrote: Nani would demolish Stephano. Well played.  | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
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Funguuuuu
United States198 Posts
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VashTS
United States1675 Posts
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dsousa
United States1363 Posts
Poll: Who will win Stephano vs Naniwa in Bo7 Naniwa (180) Stephano (180) 360 total votes Your vote: Who will win Stephano vs Naniwa in Bo7 | ||
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ohampatu
United States1448 Posts
On March 11 2012 11:13 Rhaegar_tar wrote: do you mean blizzcup when he went 0-4, lol... like i said, your looking at the games in a win/lose situation only. His blizzcup performance was not horrible, he played well. He just didn't win. Apart from the probe rush all his games were well played | ||
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KhAmun
United States1005 Posts
On March 11 2012 11:12 1Eris1 wrote: Can you post the link please? Your MC quotes aren't even coherent. He is referring to MC's interview during IEM, and it's unclear whether MC meant skill level or play style, because the question was about violet being aggressive and preferring gas openings over 3hatch openins, so I think he was referring to play style rather than total skill. But it's translation who knows. Interview right aftter 3-0ing zenio. | ||
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Seraphone
United Kingdom1219 Posts
On March 11 2012 11:18 ohampatu wrote: like i said, your looking at the games in a win/lose situation only. His blizzcup performance was not horrible, he played well. He just didn't win. Apart from the probe rush all his games were well played Losing is losing. There's no positive spin on a 0-4. | ||
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raiZo
Germany60 Posts
U took MC and Naniwa on the same Level, dudes wake up, MC is MC and Naniwa is Naniwa, it doesnt matter at all. 5-0 MC vs Stephano has nothing to do with Naniwa. Naniwa was able to beat Nestae serveral times, but Nestea isnt Stephano, both has differnt gamestyles... You think that u can messed up skills by results of totaly differnt players? thats just stupid sorry. naniwa is strong, stephano is strong and pvsz is stephanos best matchup... so would be awesome to see that match. i give naniwa 1 map, rest will win stephano ;-) Edit: sorry my english isnt good at all, but i give my best, that you all understand what i mean. | ||
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ohampatu
United States1448 Posts
On March 11 2012 11:19 Seraphone wrote: Losing is losing. There's no positive spin on a 0-4. Theres most definitely a difference between getting demolished/rolled or just barely losing a game or series | ||
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striderxxx
Canada443 Posts
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Chargelot
2275 Posts
On March 11 2012 11:21 ohampatu wrote: Theres most definitely a difference between getting demolished/rolled or just barely losing a game or series If you want to get romantic about it, sure. Close loss in a gun fight? You're still dead. Close loss in an argument with your wife? You're still wrong. Close loss in the lottery? You're still poor. Close loss in StarCraft? You're still a loser. | ||
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Cereb
Denmark3388 Posts
They could prolly make all the money back on ads...everyone is gonna watch that ^_^ So who's gonna win? You might as well ask: Can Stephano hold a varity of fancy pancy two base all ins? Yes? Well then Stephano is going to win! ;> | ||
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