EPTSC2 and the ghost-town effect - Page 7
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zefreak
United States2731 Posts
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pRo9aMeR
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All points seem spot-on to me | ||
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kittensrcute
United States617 Posts
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ArcticRaven
France1406 Posts
On March 06 2012 05:02 IMoperator wrote: Idk why people complain so much about this, I think the current system is fine. If I want to join a chat room I'll join reddit or teamliquid. If I want to talk to some friends, I chat with them. I don't see the problem at all. Ok - cool for you. But how about all the people who quit playing because they feel alone ? Maybe you're fine with it, but many people aren't - or weren't, since most of them aren't playing anymore. The game will be way less fun, and SC2 as an esport way dead, when there will be almost no one playing it because people keep quitting. Just look at the statistics about the active playerbase season after season. It just keeps falling. | ||
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ES.Genie
Germany1370 Posts
On March 06 2012 05:02 IMoperator wrote: Idk why people complain so much about this, I think the current system is fine. If I want to join a chat room I'll join reddit or teamliquid. If I want to talk to some friends, I chat with them. I don't see the problem at all. And because you don't see the problem there is no problem, right? | ||
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AcrossFiveJulys
United States3612 Posts
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1st_Panzer_Div.
United States621 Posts
On March 06 2012 04:58 Charger wrote: I'm not worried about you and me, we've already found the holy grail of communities and information. I'm worried about the new people to Starcraft who have no idea how big it is and where all this great stuff can be found. There is little to no interaction on bnet 2.0 so it's highly unlikely that the new people take the step we eventually took and find TL, reddit, etc. Without my friend telling me about TL I still wouldn't know it exists. The outside-the-game clans and communities are awesome. The lack of in-game clan and clan chat channels is horrific. People didn't and still don't play Diablo 2 and War3 because they're the pinnacle of gaming, they play because of the fantastic way you can just quickly make friends and hang out with people. Think about War3 laddering, I swear it was like 1/4 of the games you played you would have someone asking if you wanted to try out for their clan, join their new clan, start a new clan, etc. The clan ladder, clan message of the day, and hierarchy all just contributed to building your group of people to hang out with. The 100 person cap was even awesome because it kept it from being 5,000 people in the gosu clans and no one else having a chance. It's really sad for the large chunk of people that switched from WC3/WoW into SC2 to find that one of the things they loved most (even if they didn't realize it) is gone. And now that player base is gone as well. Imagine the eSports community for SC2 if instead of 13k games, 100k games with 500k active players at any given time, there would be millions of unique views for the major events no problem. | ||
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emc
United States3088 Posts
I agree with his point though | ||
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zefreak
United States2731 Posts
On March 06 2012 05:17 ArcticRaven wrote: Ok - cool for you. But how about all the people who quit playing because they feel alone ? Maybe you're fine with it, but many people aren't - or weren't, since most of them aren't playing anymore. The game will be way less fun, and SC2 as an esport way dead, when there will be almost no one playing it because people keep quitting. Just look at the statistics about the active playerbase season after season. It just keeps falling. It keeps falling because of the learning curve, not because of the UI. The kind of people that will quit because the UI is 'too lonely' and aren't able to think of alternatives (alt-tab? vent?) are the kind of people that would never get out of bronze and will quit anyways. | ||
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Rmdx
Germany85 Posts
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robih
Austria1084 Posts
im glad someone started an aut-1 channel in sc2 xD | ||
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jlake02
United States395 Posts
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sVnteen
Germany2238 Posts
hope blizzard will add more social features in in HotS | ||
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sitromit
7051 Posts
On March 06 2012 05:17 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: I would guess that no one claiming that the current system is fine experienced the magic that was battle.net 1.0. You have no idea what you are missing. There was nothing magic about it... Public chat in any online game I've played, and I've been playing games for a long time, was a cesspool. | ||
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SnuggleZhenya
596 Posts
On March 06 2012 05:11 zefreak wrote: Is this seriously a big deal? Want to know how I deal with 'loneliness'? It's called alt-tab. I basically have my SC2 client open at all times. I'll read TL, talk to friends in Ventrillo, check my facebook, play another ladder game. People are making this into such a big deal when it isn't. How many threads have there been about this now? Computers are pretty damn good these days, you can have more than one program open at a time. You can have multiple monitors. You can alt-tab. The problem is that I've *MET* a lot of cool people playing games, and I've met exactly 0 people playing Sc2. It isn't just abou talking with people I already know. I've met some through TL, but in SC2 itself you almost never meet anyone I met lots of people in Diablo 2 idling in chat rooms, and it was always worth while just to sort of see that community in a more real way. There is no analog to this kind of social experience in SC2. I definitely feel like that is missing from SC2. Husky did a great video a month or so ago about how battle.net works in Warcraft 3, and I think he hits on all the major points. Here is the video: | ||
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Progepanda
Finland18 Posts
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
On March 06 2012 05:28 Progepanda wrote: OK. Imo the most annoying thing is that there is no pretty windowed mode in sc2. It would be could if TL would "sponsor" some chat channels like TL 1v1 or TL Monobattles or something like that. I don't know if there are things like that but atleast i don't know about it and it could help if they were publicised on this site. Also it would make the game much more alive if there was a simple windowed mode where you could easily surf the internet at the same time and actually go full screen when you start to play some games (I hate alt-tabbing). Because when you are in SC2, you can play ladder, search for chat channels or try to play customs with friends, aka for me it's almost always ladder because I don't like having a fullscreen programm active on the background. There is a windowed mode option in Graphics..... There's also a channel named teamliquid which tends to always be full.... | ||
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RedMosquito
United States280 Posts
Maybe i dont see something but i tend to agree with what some other people were saying, that these people just werent good at the game and their excuse for quiting is "lonely ghost town effect". Sc2 isn't WoW, this is a real time strategy game and the best damn one at that. | ||
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Progepanda
Finland18 Posts
On March 06 2012 05:31 EtherealDeath wrote: There is a windowed mode option in Graphics..... There's also a channel named teamliquid which tends to always be full.... I know there is a windowed mode but I last used it like the day I bought sc2 and didn't work too well, gotta try that one again. And I said about that TL chat channel that there probably is one but my point was that there probably are people that don't know about them. What's the problem about chat channels if there are big channels that are easy to use? ( I agree that the player limit is somewhat annoying and the UI could be better) but what is the point exactly if about chat channels being empty if they actually ain't empty? (not pointed directly at you cause I don't know if you are actually complaining or not) | ||
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RedMosquito
United States280 Posts
On March 06 2012 05:27 SnuggleZhenya wrote: \The problem is that I've *MET* a lot of cool people playing games, and I've met exactly 0 people playing Sc2. It isn't just abou talking with people I already know. I've met some through TL, but in SC2 itself you almost never meet anyone I met lots of people in Diablo 2 idling in chat rooms, and it was always worth while just to sort of see that community in a more real way. There is no analog to this kind of social experience in SC2. I definitely feel like that is missing from SC2. Husky did a great video a month or so ago about how battle.net works in Warcraft 3, and I think he hits on all the major points. Here is the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOkywsDvL2w Ive met close to a hundred people playing sc2 that i never met before. Not sure what your problem is but why dont you try talking or inviting someone to play with you. Its not that hard. I joined sc2 when it first came out and no one i knew in real life played. Still ive made many acquantances and even now i still meet people all the time. Whats the problem? | ||
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