EPTIf I was able to watch all games without staying up all night I prolly would have bought it. Cant stay up all night when kids wake up at 6-7 QQ.
How did you watch MLG? - Page 34
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Atoissen
Norway1737 Posts
If I was able to watch all games without staying up all night I prolly would have bought it. Cant stay up all night when kids wake up at 6-7 QQ. | ||
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resilve
United Kingdom678 Posts
In this sense there was nothing superior from previous MLGs or any major tournament with Korean/Foreigners attending. TL;DR - Production quality doesnt matter at all, only game quality. | ||
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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On February 27 2012 18:23 resilve wrote: What this convinced me of most of all is that you can dress a starcraft 2 game up with as much window dressing as you want between games, but that is valueless - what matters is the actual ingame segment of the broadcast - who the players are and how intense the games are. In this sense there was nothing superior from previous MLGs or any major tournament with Korean/Foreigners attending. TL;DR - Production quality doesnt matter at all, only game quality. thats just not true at all | ||
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Jiddra
Sweden2685 Posts
The live event I could watch for free just by going to the live site, so I ended up watching 3-4 games for free this weekend. The rest of the live event I was sleeping. | ||
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ODKStevez
Ireland1225 Posts
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SljnX
Germany103 Posts
i watched about 3h the whole weekend, never 20$ worth it ..sorry | ||
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GertHeart
United States631 Posts
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eot
146 Posts
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ovnell
Sweden61 Posts
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windzor
Denmark1013 Posts
A "poor" student who uses my money and what i feel is important. | ||
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Frankon
3054 Posts
On Saturday after Assembly i turned on mlg page and got like 3 streams working and only 1 blocked by paywall. I said to myself "ok i'll watch some". Two series later i was like meh... people really pay for it and went to sleep. Then came the championship sunday. The games should be good. Went to MLG site. This time pay wall was working for me. I was thinking. "Ok last day. I can dish out that 5$ for the remaining 5 games" - but MLG shattered my hopes.Still $20 ... Went on redit. Saw a post about day1 restreams in controversial tabs. Thought "its 2 day old re-stream it just cannot work. Its impossible..." Boy was i so wrong. Watched the re-stream for day 3. After the first game which was ok the quality of games dropped. They were basically hold first push counter to win... The twitch lag didn't make it all better. I began to wonder if $5 wouldn't even be too much for those games. Then came the reverse extended series. Something i never thought could be possible. Still it gave us more games. So to sum it up. Day 1 - didn't watch it Day 2 - Watch it on MLG website Day 3 - Restream | ||
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Notfragile
Greece713 Posts
Perhaps it is money. Some people do not find it easy to burn $20. Some others are just cheap. Some others are addicted to the free content of the internetz. But money can be a limiting factor. Perhaps it is the volume of games. You know, some people have lives outside of the sc2 scene as well. Some people cannot sit in front of their PC all weekend long to watch games. Try to ask that kind of people that would only watch 1 day, or half a day to spend the aforemetioned money. They won't. Perhaps it is that the tournament is broadcasted in a weird time for the europeans. I know that MLG is the biggest esports event of the US and US/Canada are the main target group. For an european, it would be like "watch some games in the late of the night" or "get up early to watch the good ones" etc. No reason to pay $20 for some of the games, especially combined with the 2 reasons above. Perhaps it is the comparison with other events. Assembly was a fine tournament that offered a lot of excitement for the price of the electricity someone's pc used to function. They bombed people with advertisements and that is fine. The prize for the 1st place was $10.000. GLS is the best tournament there is. The price is around $15 for 2 months Monday to Thursday of the world's absolut best starcraft action. 2 bloody months. And there is the low quality stream for free as well. 1st place prize? $44.500 Let us not comment about that, let's just say CodeS = $1.300 for everyone there. That's what I call motivation to waste a few years of one's life in order to get better and deliver a great show. And you can watch it for a cheaper price than the 2 day slugfest the MLG is, because noone can study the other player and prepare. 2 days of top ladder level matches for $20. I realise that MLG is not a charity organization and wants to make money out of it. But the audience is not a charity group either. Offer something good and we buy. Offer mediocre stuff, at bad hours, at a really high price compared to other content, while other content is both better and cheaper (or even free) and a lot of people will not buy it. $5 and I'm in for it. $10 and still probably no, compared to both GSL and assembly/dreamhack level tournaments. I am not giving charity to any corporation out there. | ||
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Jaba
United States10 Posts
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mememolly
4765 Posts
Good -production quality -FP streams of players was sick -1080 stream when it worked was amazing -okish downtime between games -alternative casters as the main ones tbh were poor and seem unprepared a lot of the time aside from artosis (really impressed by grubby's casting skills) -games and player line up were great obviously bad -uber lag at crucial times -time for euro -extended series still needs to be worked around, also the seeding/brackets seemed a little unfair -too many big games were just bo3s -obviously without a crowd there was little to no atmosphere and it really came through -lag -vods weren't quickly available and some of them didn't work at all (this is particularly bad for euros who wanted to watch the day after) -the backstage cam was advertised as something totally different than what it was, basically you gave us some colour CCTV footage | ||
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adalcim
Germany166 Posts
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TheG4Be
Sweden22 Posts
So yeah, I paid for it. | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
Scheduling on day 1 and day 2 basically made it impossible for european to watch even 50% of the games played, and, according to several posts I've read on teamliquid, I was right to not trust the vod system of MLG to make up for the games that I wouldn't be able to watch (not being able to watch live is not that bad if you got nice vod system to watch everything directly afterwards). | ||
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MaestroSC
United States2073 Posts
On February 27 2012 18:50 Notfragile wrote: Perhaps it is the volume of games. You know, some people have lives outside of the sc2 scene as well. Some people cannot sit in front of their PC all weekend long to watch games. Try to ask that kind of people that would only watch 1 day, or half a day to spend the aforemetioned money. They won't. I agree with this the most and is the point i agree with the most. I mean it is kind of a strange thing to complain about having too many games, but realistically it has become impossible to follow every match you want to see from a tournament without being a 100% full time dedicated SC2 watcher/fan. And you only have a week to watch it, because after that the new patch comes out or the new tournament comes out, and you are watching something that is now dated and irrelevant. I understand I am probably not the majority, but I like to watch the games as they happen, live. and its the same of any sporting event. I dont watch reruns of sports games, I dont record games to watch them later. I like to watch them as they are happening, cause that is when they are exciting. So getting access to VoDs or free restreams (after the fact) arent interesting to me, because when you are watching last weeks vods, you are missing this weeks tournament. For me personally, I cant see myself paying $20 to watch a 3 day tournament, that I felt, didnt feel like a real event. I have gone to multiple Blizzcons and MLG's because its a kickass time and i love watching and being there, but this tournament with no crowd felt as someone else already said, as if it was just an online tournament. I dont know though, I was in the crowd when there were the WHITE RA chants and the MMA MMA and BOXER BOXER chants and those things are what make events what they are.. IDK its hard to explain. sry its 2 am and im rambling aimlessly... to sum it up.... why pay $20 for something that seems like an online event... when i can just watch one of the MANY free tournaments that there are to watch now. GSL sells because there is no tournament that can match it competition-wise and because there are a SHITLOAD of games month-long content, so even if you miss a night/day there is more stuff coming on tomorrow night so sooner or later u can get ur moneys worth... I just think that atm we are at a point where there is no reason to pay $20 to see matches that you can see in a week or two for free.(and im not talking about vods... but a new tourney with the same players) ALSO just a btw from me, I dont agree/like/understand why a tournament even has 4-5 streams for the same game. I dont know how any of you guys can do it.. but for me I can only watch/listen to one stream at a time. Instead of having multiple streams I would rather have 1 stream with 0 downtime. Even if it meant having a 2nd stream that existed ONLY as "now flipping to stream two while we set up the next match! =)" Would rather pay $5 for one 0-downtime stream. Than $20 for 4 streams that run simultaneously...making it impossible to enjoy what i am "paying for". | ||
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NexaS
United States202 Posts
I'm never going to pay $20 to watch a starcraft tournament, I'm sorry. I'll pay $5 or maybe $10 if the tournament is good and I can somehow get my moneys worth. | ||
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