EPT#600 and 601 are about this, but using it on one of your own workers is rather clever I'd say
[Trick] Hold position workers - Page 2
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snively
United States1159 Posts
#600 and 601 are about this, but using it on one of your own workers is rather clever I'd say | ||
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CrY.
Japan97 Posts
It's easy to see that yeah, people do the hold position trick if there's a UNIT that is AUTO ATTACKING (IE marine) to protect the marine; however, as the OP suggests, it's never done if there's just probes..a lot of times i just right click them to my natural using camera keys but then i get scared 2 banes are gonna kill 40 scv in 1 second.. So kudos OP for your subtle take on this "trick", thanks for the consideration of the community. Shame on you posters for your blatantly inconsiderate connotations.. Edit: not all bad, but you obviously know who I'm talking about and it's just rude. If you know it, cool, but why feel the need to make negative posts insinuating the OP is doing something that offends you or something. | ||
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gh0un
601 Posts
Even if the zerg tries to counteract this by using the hold position on his zerglings himself, he will do considerably less damage, and is one of the reasons why zerg runbys do little to no damage to anyone that has decent understanding of unit AI (not every pro is aware of this, otherwise i wouldnt be facepalming every now and then when i watch a really good player fail at minimizing ling runby damage into his mineral line), Its just a matter of time until everyone finally starts using this to decrease damage taken from lings, at which point ling runbys will be useless. An 8 man marine drop can kill an entire mineral line in a matter of seconds, while a huge army of zerglings cant take out remotely as much (even if given more time) if the opponent abuses unit AI with hold position (and smart positioning of workers), which imo is a huge imbalance in the game. | ||
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Uncultured
United States1340 Posts
Wrong. Some of ya'll need to read the OP more clearly or something. | ||
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Kaleidos
Italy172 Posts
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tehemperorer
United States2183 Posts
Edit: If it's not new to you, congratulations, no need to post since you know it already and you get +1 internets. I know about worker and combat ai, but this is a specific implementation of it in a realistic scenario, and that's something I haven't thought about before because I don't have much time to. Thanks for posting Geiko | ||
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Berailfor
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sVnteen
Germany2238 Posts
On February 23 2012 05:42 barrykp wrote: Sounds interesting. Have you tried it against a 6pool or anything like that? why would you do that vs 6 pool? you need to stack the probes vs a 6pool if you do hold position zerg can just rightclick and kill all of them.... | ||
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Geiko
France2025 Posts
On February 23 2012 06:02 tehemperorer wrote: Cool man I like it. I think application for this would be later in the game right, as a reaction to speedling runby? When Zerg has a lot more going on than he does in the first minutes of the game. Edit: If it's not new to you, congratulations, no need to post since you know it already and you get +1 internets. I know about worker and combat ai, but this is a specific implementation of it in a realistic scenario, and that's something I haven't thought about before because I don't have much time to. Thanks for posting Geiko yes this is trick is not for early game scenarios because against early lings you usually need to attack with your workers or do some type of micro other than just stalling for time. | ||
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
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tehemperorer
United States2183 Posts
On February 23 2012 06:05 sVnteen wrote: why would you do that vs 6 pool? you need to stack the probes vs a 6pool if you do hold position zerg can just rightclick and kill all of them.... He didn't comprehend the post and think deeper about what is happening. Ignore it. | ||
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tehemperorer
United States2183 Posts
On February 23 2012 06:06 Geiko wrote: yes this is trick is not for early game scenarios because against early lings you usually need to attack with your workers or do some type of micro other than just stalling for time. Right or if u FFE vs early pool there will be a cannon in your mineral line as a response and the lings will ignore the workers anyway and go for the cannon, which goes back to what you state "everyone knows to hp their workers to surround their cannons" | ||
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skatbone
United States1005 Posts
On February 23 2012 06:00 CrY. wrote: Haha OP trying to share an observation with the friendly community of TL and everyone rapes him.. It's easy to see that yeah, people do the hold position trick if there's a UNIT that is AUTO ATTACKING (IE marine) to protect the marine; however, as the OP suggests, it's never done if there's just probes..a lot of times i just right click them to my natural using camera keys but then i get scared 2 banes are gonna kill 40 scv in 1 second.. So kudos OP for your subtle take on this "trick", thanks for the consideration of the community. Shame on you posters for your blatantly inconsiderate connotations.. Edit: not all bad, but you obviously know who I'm talking about and it's just rude. If you know it, cool, but why feel the need to make negative posts insinuating the OP is doing something that offends you or something. Well stated. Thanks for this take, Geiko. Given your contributions to TL I would assume that people would at least read the specifics of your OP before dismissing it as the same old worker-hold-position. I look forward to giving this a try. | ||
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chestnutcc
India429 Posts
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Tal0n
United States175 Posts
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CrtBalorda
Slovenia704 Posts
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lSasquatchl
United States309 Posts
I think half these people didn't read the OP, watched the video and responded according. I've done something simliar to this with a zlot at my choke before while getting 6 pooled, although not quite the same thing and not nearly as clever. | ||
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chestnutcc
India429 Posts
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Geiko
France2025 Posts
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darkcloud8282
Canada776 Posts
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