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ninjamyst
United States1903 Posts
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XRaDiiX
Canada1730 Posts
On February 27 2012 06:43 marvin. wrote: Really? You're accusing MLG of paying people to make a positive comment on their production quality? Please... Why not it seems plausible with all the MLG fanboys gloating about it in here. Am I not allowed to make an accusation. It's impossible to know if they are doing it or not :| | ||
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J.E.G.
United States389 Posts
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marvin.
United States469 Posts
On February 27 2012 06:49 XRaDiiX wrote: Why not it seems plausible with all the MLG fanboys gloating about it in here. No matter how similar it may seem to other tournaments in terms of production or whatnot, the tournament still boasts an impressive lineup of players that I would have loved to watch. Although the $20 pricetag is too steep for me to justify purchasing, I can definitely see how those who purchased it would be satisfied with the games they are getting with the caliber of players in the tournament (in addition to the storylines.. Naniwa vs nestea/leenock, HuK/MKP/DRG in top 3... what more can you ask? It's that versus a conspiracy theory.. what seems more likely to you? It almost seems like you're trolling, but it's hard to tell. | ||
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Ercster
United States603 Posts
On February 27 2012 06:01 XRaDiiX wrote: All other foreign tourneys have free streams even when they pay for flights of players. The Bullshit is MLGs greedy business model and deceitful tactics Those tourneys are also losing money by doing so. MLG decided that they don't want to lose money, but rather gain some so they could continue to put more into their tourneys. A lot of people, you included, are either too close minded, don't know how a business works, or are just jumping on a band wagon. This is very upsetting because our community is supposed to be a very intelligent community, yet people are showing their lack of knowledge in a fundamental part of continuing to grow or maintain the SC2 scene. | ||
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Matkap
Spain627 Posts
On February 27 2012 06:27 lottopk wrote: Question for fanboys who hype mlg production: Seriously what is it that makes so good in your opinion? because I didnt notice any difference to asus(nothing worth 20dollars anyway). Its still tournament inside small office building, without audience, normal interviews etc, boring playerroom cam. you should look up what production value means | ||
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RusHXceL
United States1004 Posts
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Serelitz
Netherlands2895 Posts
On February 27 2012 06:46 zezamer wrote: They don't need to because almost nobody will admit that they've made a bad investment. Basic psychology. Ah yes, I'm secretly right but everyone who disagrees is to proud to admit they're wrong. Ofcourse. This comes after the 'MLG is bribing people on TL' thing. Is the next step the american government controlling 18-30 male demographic through MLG? | ||
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ragnorr
Denmark6097 Posts
On February 27 2012 06:52 J.E.G. wrote: I really wish they would break this up into ppv for separate days some how. This was the only day I could watch, and I'm surely not shelling out $20 one day of starcraft 2 Yeah, they should really lower the price as each day passes. I doubt they get alot of customers on day 3 when it costs 20$. | ||
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Kammalleri
Canada613 Posts
On February 27 2012 06:54 Ercster wrote: Those tourneys are also losing money by doing so. MLG decided that they don't want to lose money, but rather gain some so they could continue to put more into their tourneys. A lot of people, you included, are either too close minded, don't know how a business works, or are just jumping on a band wagon. This is very upsetting because our community is supposed to be a very intelligent community, yet people are showing their lack of knowledge in a fundamental part of continuing to grow the SC2 scene. Exactly. It's 100% sponsor based, all you make from sponsor goes toward the venue, players and the prize pool and then the company is at the exact same spot it was at before the tournaments and it just goes in circle. It can't go this way forever | ||
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XRaDiiX
Canada1730 Posts
On February 27 2012 06:53 marvin. wrote: No matter how similar it may seem to other tournaments in terms of production or whatnot, the tournament still boasts an impressive lineup of players that I would have loved to watch. Although the $20 pricetag is too steep for me to justify purchasing, I can definitely see how those who purchased it would be satisfied with the games they are getting with the caliber of players in the tournament (in addition to the storylines.. Naniwa vs nestea/leenock, HuK/MKP/DRG in top 3... what more can you ask? It's that versus a conspiracy theory.. what seems more likely to you? It almost seems like you're trolling, but it's hard to tell. Im probably just angry I missed the tourney and games because MLG decided to restrict 90% of SC2 viewers. Which is probably going to hurt the viewer base in the long run | ||
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ShuttingFromTheSky
Japan199 Posts
On February 27 2012 06:55 Matkap wrote: you should look up what production value means So if you can't watch it live and have to rely on the VODs you can stick this so called "production value" in your ass because the VODs feel like replay analysis' or Online Cups without camera shots or any interviews. I'm really disappointed, won't pay again for an arena event. | ||
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xBillehx
United States1289 Posts
That said I'd stick by it being a PPV product. They did eliminate most of the downtime, and the stream layouts are pretty cool. It's a nice aside to their championship events and ultimately I think it ended up a good product because the games have been fun to watch but still not worth the $20 purchase in my honest opinion. Especially with the incredibly buggy paywall giving free access for little to no effort at all. Hopefully they cut the price a bit next time or offer something more cause I still feel GSL gives me better bang per dollar. | ||
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Muruburu
United Kingdom43 Posts
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Serelitz
Netherlands2895 Posts
On February 27 2012 06:57 XRaDiiX wrote: Im probably just angry I missed the tourney and games because MLG decided to restrict 90% of SC2 viewers. Which is probably going to hurt the viewer base in the long run There's still 4 free events just like last year's events. These events are EXTRA to MAKE MONEY so that MLG can put out the same level of tournaments. If they don't charge money, there can probably not even be 4 free tournaments of this caliber next year. But still, you're complaining because you feel entitled, and you justify your rage with conspiracy theories. It's disgusting. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
Tournaments lose money due to their expenses. Sometimes you have to make cutbacks. The amount of spending MLG does is ridiculous. Sure, they want to help the players and their teams and all that jazz by taking the pressure off them to compete. But, at the end of the day? Did they get their money's worth. We got a lot of quality games out of it, but I feel there was a lot more they could of done. I've experienced everything from their early audio problems to mini spikes. The new features and layout is great and easy to use, but I'd expect this kind of upgrade out of any tournament. I really wish they had a bigger desk too for all the hosts instead of going back and forth between the casters after the games. It's frigging annoying. MLG bleeds money based off their setup. - - | ||
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XRaDiiX
Canada1730 Posts
On February 27 2012 06:54 Ercster wrote: Those tourneys are also losing money by doing so. MLG decided that they don't want to lose money, but rather gain some so they could continue to put more into their tourneys. A lot of people, you included, are either too close minded, don't know how a business works, or are just jumping on a band wagon. This is very upsetting because our community is supposed to be a very intelligent community, yet people are showing their lack of knowledge in a fundamental part of continuing to grow or maintain the SC2 scene. I'm not buying it all these tourneys popping up everywhere and they are losing money? It's just a scare tactic to try and get us to pay alot of money to them. They don't disclose any financial stuff and who knows if they are telling the truth or not only they do. Let free market reign and those tournaments who put their hand in the cookie jar fail because they can't have their cake and eat it too. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On February 27 2012 06:59 Muruburu wrote: So, I can still watch this in 1080p for free. There is no prompt to have to pay. why? Because Twitch and MLG didn't take the proper measures. They're new to this. | ||
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-_-Quails
Australia796 Posts
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StarStruck
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