EPTBut anyone saying Assembly's lineup this weeknd is of 'equal caliber' is nothing less than delusional.
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neversleeping
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But anyone saying Assembly's lineup this weeknd is of 'equal caliber' is nothing less than delusional. | ||
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xShade
Canada52 Posts
But that basically leaves me to the point where I'm paying $20 to watch the semi's and the finals... which is definitely not worth it in my opinion. | ||
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Autobeat
United States53 Posts
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striderxxx
Canada443 Posts
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eloist
United States1017 Posts
Hahahahaha. If 20$ was needed to "break even" then they must expect low turnout. If we assume that twitch takes $5 of those $20, that's $150k for 10k people that convert to pay (which is really high). That barely covers the travel cost to get the players out (which I think they should perhaps not have done to this degree) plus prize money. I don't think they can bank on sponsor revenue for this since the number of viewers can be expected to be this low. In addition to that, they have about 10 casters and hosts there, probably at least 5 production people. A 100mbit connection is probably around $2.5k a month. Plus equipment cost, rent, other staff, catering etc. My guess is that they need at least around 20k paying viewers to make any money on this. I would be surprised if they come anywhere close to this. Personally I think the price is too high and they are shooting themselves in the foot with a too high of a cost structure but it is what it is. Enjoying the show a lot anyways. | ||
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zaii
Guam2611 Posts
On February 25 2012 14:48 striderxxx wrote: let's see how bad mlg numbers are this weekend. no one really cares if you can't watch for free. i would recommend all competitors to stage their free to watch event the same weekends as mlg ppv from the sound of things, it seems they got good numbers. | ||
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neversleeping
117 Posts
Assembly has a monster lineup of the best the EU has to offer with a couple of upper-end Koreans and that's it. That still makes for one hell of a tourney but please try and really tell me MLG isn't blowing the lineup out of the water. If Assembly didn't have Stephano there wouldn't even be a contest here. | ||
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momonami5
United States109 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On February 25 2012 14:53 momonami5 wrote: mlg bad move brahs, even gsl and all other tourney has free stream. after all the problems mlg been having they have nerve to try this is crazy. They have really good numbers, they did it. You can't say its a bad move when the word is they have been doing very well :p lol | ||
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architecture
United States643 Posts
Say they were only able to bring in 4k of ad revenue from ad views. They only have to sell 200 tickets to essentially get that. Any more = more success than showing ads. And THEN, in one week, when the VODs are released, they will capture the rest of the audience that would have watched. The VODs will have ads, and they will make another 4k. They are essentially double dipping their revenue. | ||
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neversleeping
117 Posts
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On February 25 2012 14:45 Autobeat wrote: Yo, restream at [NUKED]. But seriously this paygate is ridiculous and ineffective. Also, glad to see Demuslim put back in his place after getting all uppity for a game. violating the warning at top AND player bashing.... how many days ban will you get? im guessing two weeks.... | ||
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eloist
United States1017 Posts
On February 25 2012 14:58 neversleeping wrote: Considering their one higher-up guy (can't remember his name) said on SOTG that their internal estimates were on par with the TL polling (~10-13% would be willing to pay) it's hard to think they're not seeing at least that from all the conversation cropping up / etc. If the free events really peaked at a quarter million viewers, then I see this point. I am still irritated how the biggest non-mlg events topped out at around 80k though - that's a huge difference. | ||
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Farmer Poopy
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Autobeat
United States53 Posts
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Autobeat
United States53 Posts
On February 25 2012 14:59 dAPhREAk wrote: violating the warning at top AND player bashing.... how many days ban will you get? im guessing two weeks.... I got banned and then unbanned a minute later because it was a joke URL to a non-existant domain. Mod got a little trigger happy with things but we patched up. Unless he was trying to ban me for the Demulsim thing..... | ||
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Rassy
Netherlands2308 Posts
Lol good for them (no sarcasm intended) i can see this event turning out better then expected because it is the first ppv event ever for sc,and it got alot of (FREE) publicity here on tl and other forums. lets see how this goes a few events down the road in say 9 months from now, i still dont think the sc fanbase is wealthy enough to pay 20$ to watch a weekend tournament on a regular basis If they have made a huge profit they better keep it a secret though as due to your spin doctors on the forums the community seems to think that ppv was needed to safe esports,not realy to make a few guys a huge profit. annyway congratz to mlg, you opened a new road for wich we should aplaud you, lets just hope that its not a death end road (sry i cant be 100% positive about this) | ||
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VoO
Germany278 Posts
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SeaSwift
Scotland4486 Posts
On February 25 2012 18:18 VoO wrote: SC2 is not at the point where you can set up PPV-only content. This concept is hurting the whole scene. If you want to make profit and advertisement is not enough, you should consider to generate extra content, e.g. interviews/talks/show-matches which are only availble to paying viewers. To pay for the most basic aspect, the gameplay, is just bad ethics and puts MLG in the league of EA's ME3. That makes no sense at all. It is somehow morally wrong for MLG to switch to PPV now? I see this kind of post a lot: you want free content and aren't willing to pay up for it (or maybe you are, and are bitter about it), and try to legitimise your complaint by claiming it's wrong for a) the "scene" and b) morality. Chances are, that's not the real reason you are complaining. You are complaining because for all this time, it was easy to just watch high quality SC2 content for free, and now you are having to dip into your wallet. | ||
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Longshank
1648 Posts
On February 25 2012 14:56 Mohdoo wrote: They have really good numbers, they did it. You can't say its a bad move when the word is they have been doing very well :p lol And what are those really good numbers? | ||
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