MLG Winter Arena to be PPV - Page 173

On February 15 2012 23:31 getdeadplz wrote:


lol you make me laugh so hard... Watch the vods if your worried about time they aren't going to give you a discount because you want to watch it live when it is hosted in another country.... Do you think???


And to everyone else less qq more pew pew

On February 15 2012 23:45 MortOrGuilt wrote:

Also anyone from the EU like me has to pay that then watch it at stupid o'clock? Yeah sure.

On February 15 2012 20:11 eLeVaTioN wrote:
People need to look at this from not only their own perspective but from an E-Sports business perspective as well. E-Sports (competitive gaming), what ever you want to call it is a business, and many people live under the delusion that gaming leagues like MLG are already making millions of dollars every year, when in fact every year they are taking a loss while they continue to invest back into it. For E-Sports to survive, it needs to be monetized and for MLG to begin the change into a new era is actually a good decision, otherwise if these leagues continued to ignore this model and make everything free, eventually these leagues will go bankrupt and E-Sports will die.

Now for those concerned about the $20 cost for a weekend pass, yes it seems a bit high to most but from a business perspective it was rather a very smart decision on their part and it needed to be done. For this arena it's $20, but they knew that people would give negative feedback towards it and we can easily assume that the price will decrease afterwards for the remaining 3 arena events for this season and for any events in future years if they continue to use this tournament format. This was their plan to begin with, people were going to be mad about the higher price, and after this arena they will cut the price drastically, that way much more people will buy into these passes or they will buy into the new but unreleased combined packages that they announced, which will essentially be the same thing as GSL year long passes. And while they made this decision, other leagues such as IPL, NASL, IEM and some of the major tournaments like Dreamhack will look into what MLG is doing and eventually they as well will introduce similar models, charging money for their content. You can't sit here forever believing they will just hand out all of their content for free while not making any revenue after each year and taking a loss. Within the next couple of years, probably every league will monetize their content in some way, and at the same time that content will continue to grow in quality as well as the amount of it.

Another consideration people need to take into account is that the money they will make from this PPV and from future monetized content, that money will in part be put back into the model and the company to better provide for players and spectators alike. So as MLG begins to make a revenue, they will have more money to work with in providing even higher quality content and more ideas with streaming and such.

This first Arena PPV was just a test, and as I said earlier this was probably their plan from the start and the price will be cut afterwards while they introduce more content packages. And throughout the year as they continue to receive feedback and such from the community, the model will work better with providing the community with the best quality content MLG can offer for a reasonable price. The community, although most of it disagrees with this new model, should still support this change as it's for the better and growth of E-Sports. I'm not saying everyone should buy this pass, imo if you love SC2 and you feel it's worth your $20, buy it, if not, don't, but don't have the attitude of just doing away with MLG and just ranting and raging about these changes while not having any consideration from their perspective or the perspective of E-sports in general. Yes, Starcraft existed and was established before and without MLG, however for SC2 to grow and be able to provide the luxuries that players want as well as spectators and to have the opportunity to grow E-sports to a level that is close to the level of professional sports, MLG needs to exist with SC2 and in the end it needs to succeed.

On February 15 2012 23:31 getdeadplz wrote:


lol you make me laugh so hard... Watch the vods if your worried about time they aren't going to give you a discount because you want to watch it live when it is hosted in another country.... Do you think???


And to everyone else less qq more pew pew

On February 15 2012 23:31 getdeadplz wrote:


lol you make me laugh so hard... Watch the vods if your worried about time they aren't going to give you a discount because you want to watch it live when it is hosted in another country.... Do you think???


And to everyone else less qq more pew pew

On February 15 2012 23:48 ViRii wrote:
$20 is just a bit much. GSL offers like four times the amount of games, and a ton more players to watch for $20 per season (like, $6 a month.)

I wouldn't mind if they had a $5 a month subscription fee that gave me access to all of their games... the problem is, they just don't have the amount of games, nor the quality, of GSL. In a world where an eSports fan doesn't have unlimited money and they have to choose between GSL and MLG... I think they'd choose GSL anyday.

On February 15 2012 23:39 AgAu wrote:
After looking at the preview for what they have planned this weekend I would gladly pay $20 to view this event. Here is the unfortunate thing though. I don't think I can commit the whole weekend to this event. In theory I would love to spend the weekend in front of my TV watching these streams, but it's just not realistic. For this reason I won't purchase the event. If MLG offered some sort of yearly pass for all their arenas/events I would purchase it so that I can come and go as I please watching the most content I can.

On February 16 2012 01:05 Liquid`NonY wrote:

MLG Arena VODs are free. GSL live stream is free. They are opposites and they both make sense because of the extreme time zone differences.

On February 16 2012 01:13 GumThief wrote:
MLG Arena VODs will be free... To the people comparing it to the GSL service I am a little bit confused.

For myself living in Canada, a paid GSL subscription is either - Stay up/wake up at 4am to watch the games live, or PAY for the VOD.

For Europeans with the MLG Arena, by paying they can stay up until dick o'clock and watch, or NOT PAY and watch the VODs for free.

If anything, i'd say that MLG is more accommodating towards a non-paying person in a less than ideal time zone.

On February 16 2012 01:05 Liquid`NonY wrote:

MLG Arena VODs are free. GSL live stream is free. They are opposites and they both make sense because of the extreme time zone differences.

People who value live viewing will pay for MLG Arena. People who don't will pay GSL for its VODs and get the Arena VODs for free. And people who love everything will get both.

The number of games is hardly an issue. There's so much SC2 being played publicly by pros that you can get as many pro games as you'd ever want for free. This is about getting more out of the scene than just the games. I personally get very little entertainment out of the GSL. There are a lot of reasons why an event like MLG Arena will be way better for me.

On February 15 2012 20:26 eLeVaTioN wrote:


No, I am not, I've just been an MLG competitive gamer for a number of years along with being a supporter for the growth of E-Sports in not only the US but around the world.

On February 16 2012 01:08 JustPassingBy wrote:


And now imagine you are somebody who does not live in Amerika, i.e. in a different time zone.
I for one have unpleasant memories of the MLG vod system...

edit:



Arena VOD's are only free after a week, I think, which does not have the charm of watching something live.
I think if you have a poll with whether users want free live SQ or free vod HQ after one week waiting time, I think most people would still vote for the first one. So in that sense, I don't regard those two things of equal value.