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Lets just see what happens, only time will tell. Select vs macsed pretty one sided though and macsed did not show any stellar play whatsoever. In this regard is pvt at least is out of touch with he times. I recall one game on belshire where he got stomped because select attacked his third, causing the whole protoss army to march from the main single file. select then flanks killing zealots without support, picking off colossus, and destroying the rest of the gateway army which did not include HT tech.
I'm disappointed that the starcraft II scene in china has not taken off to it's full potential as LoL and Dota is pulling too much interest.
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On February 14 2012 05:49 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 05:41 Eee wrote:On February 14 2012 05:37 Dattish wrote:On February 14 2012 05:33 Poopi wrote:On February 14 2012 04:21 Skwid1g wrote:On February 14 2012 03:32 Seraphone wrote:On February 14 2012 03:28 Primadog wrote:On February 14 2012 01:56 Seraphone wrote: I have a pretty low opinion of Chinese players, in fact they're mostly all crappy but Xigua is the best of a bad bunch and given he's playing Killer (who has appalling PvZ) I think Xigua might actually make it through a round. The Chinese are very underrated. Prepare to be suprised. They're actual the exact opposite and are extremely overrated. Lots of people assume that because we don't see them play they must therefore be really good and it's not too uncommon to see people make ludicrous claims like "the Chinese scene can rival the Korean" and other such absurdities. Everytime we see Chinese players play they're doing strategies from six months ago and generally playing bad. Chinese players have an appalling record on LAN, even in their home country (Stars War, IEM China). Xigua coming 2nd at WCG (having beaten virtually no one of any note) is their only LAN result. You're kidding, right? At Starswar Chinese players knocked out: Nestea, Fruitdealer (when he was in Code S), MarineKing, MVPGenius, TLO, SanZenith when he was good, Dimaga, Idra, Morrow, and a few others I think. 3/4 of the four top places were Chinese players iirc, with MC being the only other. Chinese players are REALLY underrated for the most part, they aren't on the level of Koreans, but they'd easily compete with other foreign countries. The koreans were lagging hard. Check chinese results on lans  They didn't play exclusively on the Chinese servers, servers was decided by RNG. Yes, and I'm pretty sure all Korea vs China matches were played on Korea since: 1) most chinese players had korean accounts because sc2 was released late in china, 2) it's pretty hard to get a chinese account. Genius forfeited his match because of the lag lol... But believe that chinese are super gosus if you want  . They are good but it's nothing compared to koreans
Right now nobody can compete on equal footing with the Koreans 
My hope is only that this can lead to more interaction with the Chinese scene. I think that the Chinese scene is not that great right now, but it has a lot of potential, definitely more than NA and likely more than EU. China has top WC3 players, and the nation is very receptive to Esports, considering how big WC3 is, just not SC2 yet. But if we can create interest in SC2 in China, it would incentivize players to play more SC2 and the player quality increases.
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I hope to see more Xigua. I see a lot of potential in this guy
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On February 14 2012 04:21 Skwid1g wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 03:32 Seraphone wrote:On February 14 2012 03:28 Primadog wrote:On February 14 2012 01:56 Seraphone wrote: I have a pretty low opinion of Chinese players, in fact they're mostly all crappy but Xigua is the best of a bad bunch and given he's playing Killer (who has appalling PvZ) I think Xigua might actually make it through a round. The Chinese are very underrated. Prepare to be suprised. They're actual the exact opposite and are extremely overrated. Lots of people assume that because we don't see them play they must therefore be really good and it's not too uncommon to see people make ludicrous claims like "the Chinese scene can rival the Korean" and other such absurdities. Everytime we see Chinese players play they're doing strategies from six months ago and generally playing bad. Chinese players have an appalling record on LAN, even in their home country (Stars War, IEM China). Xigua coming 2nd at WCG (having beaten virtually no one of any note) is their only LAN result. You're kidding, right? At Starswar Chinese players knocked out: Nestea, Fruitdealer (when he was in Code S), MarineKing, MVPGenius, TLO, SanZenith when he was good, Dimaga, Idra, Morrow, and a few others I think. 3/4 of the four top places were Chinese players iirc, with MC being the only other. Chinese players are REALLY underrated for the most part, they aren't on the level of Koreans, but they'd easily compete with other foreign countries.
That was all online. As someone said Genius even refused to play it was lagging so badly.
When it came to the LAN portion MC won easilly, although he was the best player in the world at the time.
On February 14 2012 04:44 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 01:56 Seraphone wrote: I have a pretty low opinion of Chinese players, in fact they're mostly all crappy but Xigua is the best of a bad bunch and given he's playing Killer (who has appalling PvZ) I think Xigua might actually make it through a round. Now why would you just come on the thread and make a condescending post like that? Keep your negativity to yourself please.
It's not really negative. Most foreigners lose in Round One of Code A so saying I think Xigua can win one round is a compliment. Also TL has no rules stating you need to be positive in every thread.
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On February 14 2012 05:55 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 05:49 Poopi wrote:On February 14 2012 05:41 Eee wrote:On February 14 2012 05:37 Dattish wrote:On February 14 2012 05:33 Poopi wrote:On February 14 2012 04:21 Skwid1g wrote:On February 14 2012 03:32 Seraphone wrote:On February 14 2012 03:28 Primadog wrote:On February 14 2012 01:56 Seraphone wrote: I have a pretty low opinion of Chinese players, in fact they're mostly all crappy but Xigua is the best of a bad bunch and given he's playing Killer (who has appalling PvZ) I think Xigua might actually make it through a round. The Chinese are very underrated. Prepare to be suprised. They're actual the exact opposite and are extremely overrated. Lots of people assume that because we don't see them play they must therefore be really good and it's not too uncommon to see people make ludicrous claims like "the Chinese scene can rival the Korean" and other such absurdities. Everytime we see Chinese players play they're doing strategies from six months ago and generally playing bad. Chinese players have an appalling record on LAN, even in their home country (Stars War, IEM China). Xigua coming 2nd at WCG (having beaten virtually no one of any note) is their only LAN result. You're kidding, right? At Starswar Chinese players knocked out: Nestea, Fruitdealer (when he was in Code S), MarineKing, MVPGenius, TLO, SanZenith when he was good, Dimaga, Idra, Morrow, and a few others I think. 3/4 of the four top places were Chinese players iirc, with MC being the only other. Chinese players are REALLY underrated for the most part, they aren't on the level of Koreans, but they'd easily compete with other foreign countries. The koreans were lagging hard. Check chinese results on lans  They didn't play exclusively on the Chinese servers, servers was decided by RNG. Yes, and I'm pretty sure all Korea vs China matches were played on Korea since: 1) most chinese players had korean accounts because sc2 was released late in china, 2) it's pretty hard to get a chinese account. Genius forfeited his match because of the lag lol... But believe that chinese are super gosus if you want  . They are good but it's nothing compared to koreans Right now nobody can compete on equal footing with the Koreans  My hope is only that this can lead to more interaction with the Chinese scene. I think that the Chinese scene is not that great right now, but it has a lot of potential, definitely more than NA and likely more than EU. China has top WC3 players, and the nation is very receptive to Esports, considering how big WC3 is, just not SC2 yet. But if we can create interest in SC2 in China, it would incentivize players to play more SC2 and the player quality increases. I agree with what you are saying pretty much. The Chinese looked really promising way back in the Stars Wars tournament but really haven't had any impressive results since then with the exception of Xigua.Once they start getting involved in the Korean progaming infrastructure their skill level will skyrocket. China is probably slightly below EU overall right now in my opinion, but in a few months if more players start going to Korea, they will pass the EU.
Cool partnership. I hope to see more people continue to do this in the future. Not sure how the chinese will do in Code A. Hopefully they produce but the Macsed vs SelecT showmatch has me a little worried. Good luck!
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On February 14 2012 01:48 Xeris wrote: Guess FXO cooperation fell through or what? The cooperation was just in the talks stage. Nothing was ever confirmed.
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