EPTTeam iG in Korea, stays at Prime house.
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Dattish
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Bagration
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Xeris
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Primadog
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Looking forward to see what these Chinese teams can do. They are the true known unknowns of the sc world. | ||
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shannn
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That was really creepy. | ||
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Copymizer
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 let's hope they can leave a good positive mark | ||
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masterbreti
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aevealon
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Seraphone
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Yaki
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HaXXspetten
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Wafflelisk
Canada1061 Posts
On February 14 2012 01:56 Seraphone wrote: I have a pretty low opinion of Chinese players, in fact they're mostly all crappy but Xigua is the best of a bad bunch and given he's playing Killer (who has appalling PvZ) I think Xigua might actually make it through a round. Maybe (although I think Xigua in general is underrated..) but if it generates a bit more interest in the game in China, that could be huge for the state of competition. It should be interesting to see what the best of the world's biggest nation can provide once integrated with the Korean scene. I must admit I'm not a total expert on Chinese players, but hey, foreigners hwaiting.  | ||
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Torte de Lini
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ChriS-X
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Tarotis
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Primadog
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On February 14 2012 01:56 Seraphone wrote: I have a pretty low opinion of Chinese players, in fact they're mostly all crappy but Xigua is the best of a bad bunch and given he's playing Killer (who has appalling PvZ) I think Xigua might actually make it through a round. The Chinese are very underrated. Prepare to be suprised. | ||
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Eee
Sweden2712 Posts
On February 14 2012 02:32 ChriS-X wrote: i thought they went there ages ago? :S They've been there for a while as far as I'm aware. Edit: I guess not, according to the article they arrived yesterday. | ||
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Seraphone
United Kingdom1219 Posts
On February 14 2012 03:28 Primadog wrote: The Chinese are very underrated. Prepare to be suprised. They're actual the exact opposite and are extremely overrated. Lots of people assume that because we don't see them play they must therefore be really good and it's not too uncommon to see people make ludicrous claims like "the Chinese scene can rival the Korean" and other such absurdities. Everytime we see Chinese players play they're doing strategies from six months ago and generally playing bad. Chinese players have an appalling record on LAN, even in their home country (Stars War, IEM China). Xigua coming 2nd at WCG (having beaten virtually no one of any note) is their only LAN result. | ||
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swordboy
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JiYan
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Skwid1g
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On February 14 2012 03:32 Seraphone wrote: They're actual the exact opposite and are extremely overrated. Lots of people assume that because we don't see them play they must therefore be really good and it's not too uncommon to see people make ludicrous claims like "the Chinese scene can rival the Korean" and other such absurdities. Everytime we see Chinese players play they're doing strategies from six months ago and generally playing bad. Chinese players have an appalling record on LAN, even in their home country (Stars War, IEM China). Xigua coming 2nd at WCG (having beaten virtually no one of any note) is their only LAN result. You're kidding, right? At Starswar Chinese players knocked out: Nestea, Fruitdealer (when he was in Code S), MarineKing, MVPGenius, TLO, SanZenith when he was good, Dimaga, Idra, Morrow, and a few others I think. 3/4 of the four top places were Chinese players iirc, with MC being the only other. Chinese players are REALLY underrated for the most part, they aren't on the level of Koreans, but they'd easily compete with other foreign countries. | ||
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mcgriffin
Canada81 Posts
MKP is a comic-lover: he wears kawaii clothes with cartoon figures, desktop is a kitty girl, and first thing after turning on the computer is watch some comics (not playing sc2!) | ||
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Eee
Sweden2712 Posts
On February 14 2012 04:21 Skwid1g wrote: You're kidding, right? At Starswar Chinese players knocked out: Nestea, Fruitdealer (when he was in Code S), MarineKing, MVPGenius, TLO, SanZenith when he was good, Dimaga, Idra, Morrow, and a few others I think. 3/4 of the four top places were Chinese players iirc, with MC being the only other. Chinese players are REALLY underrated for the most part, they aren't on the level of Koreans, but they'd easily compete with other foreign countries. But starswar was 95% online, so it really doesnt legitimize anything. If we were to consider online results European would also be on par with koreans. | ||
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aMEkaRmy
Canada633 Posts
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TheRealNanMan
United States1471 Posts
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On February 14 2012 01:56 Seraphone wrote: I have a pretty low opinion of Chinese players, in fact they're mostly all crappy but Xigua is the best of a bad bunch and given he's playing Killer (who has appalling PvZ) I think Xigua might actually make it through a round. Now why would you just come on the thread and make a condescending post like that? Keep your negativity to yourself please. | ||
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Eee
Sweden2712 Posts
On February 14 2012 04:44 Bagration wrote: Now why would you just come on the thread and make a condescending post like that? Keep your negativity to yourself please. That's pretty much all Serpahone does on TL. "/ | ||
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XiGua
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Damn my name. | ||
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Xeris
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What I noticed from watching SeleCT vs Macsed is that the Chinese players' strategies just seem to be a few months behind. Their openers are strong, but their decision making and some other fundamental skills aren't very good, and their understanding of strategy is pretty far behind | ||
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Son of Gnome
United States777 Posts
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aintz
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Dattish
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Eee
Sweden2712 Posts
On February 14 2012 05:10 Dattish wrote: I'd like to add LoveTt to that list, at least when he practices, then he's easily on XiGuas level. It's like you say, apart from some of the ex-bw players, most seem to treat the game like wc3 by trying to outmaneuver the opponent in strange ways, like blinking into his base. Still plays, not among the top 5 of China however imo. I'd actually say LoveCD>LoveTT. At least in terms of results, he's taken 2nd place in two latest G-League seasons. | ||
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Dattish
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Poopi
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On February 14 2012 04:21 Skwid1g wrote: You're kidding, right? At Starswar Chinese players knocked out: Nestea, Fruitdealer (when he was in Code S), MarineKing, MVPGenius, TLO, SanZenith when he was good, Dimaga, Idra, Morrow, and a few others I think. 3/4 of the four top places were Chinese players iirc, with MC being the only other. Chinese players are REALLY underrated for the most part, they aren't on the level of Koreans, but they'd easily compete with other foreign countries. The koreans were lagging hard. Check chinese results on lans | ||
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Dattish
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Eee
Sweden2712 Posts
On February 14 2012 05:37 Dattish wrote: They didn't play exclusively on the Chinese servers, servers was decided by RNG. Yes, and I'm pretty sure all Korea vs China matches were played on Korea since: 1) most chinese players had korean accounts because sc2 was released late in china, 2) it's pretty hard to get a chinese account. | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On February 14 2012 04:45 Eee wrote: That's pretty much all Serpahone does on TL. "/ I thought I recognized that name. I believe it was him who boldly predicted that Vile would get all-killed by FXO in IPL TAC2, and when that did not happen, he tried to cover his own back by saying the results were invalid by claiming there was too much lag. Kids these days... | ||
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bgx
Poland6595 Posts
but Xigua is wcg silver medalist maybe it will mean something for sc2.. | ||
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Poopi
France12911 Posts
On February 14 2012 05:41 Eee wrote: Yes, and I'm pretty sure all Korea vs China matches were played on Korea since: 1) most chinese players had korean accounts because sc2 was released late in china, 2) it's pretty hard to get a chinese account. Genius forfeited his match because of the lag lol... But believe that chinese are super gosus if you want .They are good but it's nothing compared to koreans | ||
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fighter2_40
United States420 Posts
I'm disappointed that the starcraft II scene in china has not taken off to it's full potential as LoL and Dota is pulling too much interest. | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On February 14 2012 05:49 Poopi wrote: Genius forfeited his match because of the lag lol... But believe that chinese are super gosus if you want .They are good but it's nothing compared to koreans Right now nobody can compete on equal footing with the Koreans My hope is only that this can lead to more interaction with the Chinese scene. I think that the Chinese scene is not that great right now, but it has a lot of potential, definitely more than NA and likely more than EU. China has top WC3 players, and the nation is very receptive to Esports, considering how big WC3 is, just not SC2 yet. But if we can create interest in SC2 in China, it would incentivize players to play more SC2 and the player quality increases. | ||
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Ace1123
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Seraphone
United Kingdom1219 Posts
On February 14 2012 04:21 Skwid1g wrote: You're kidding, right? At Starswar Chinese players knocked out: Nestea, Fruitdealer (when he was in Code S), MarineKing, MVPGenius, TLO, SanZenith when he was good, Dimaga, Idra, Morrow, and a few others I think. 3/4 of the four top places were Chinese players iirc, with MC being the only other. Chinese players are REALLY underrated for the most part, they aren't on the level of Koreans, but they'd easily compete with other foreign countries. That was all online. As someone said Genius even refused to play it was lagging so badly. When it came to the LAN portion MC won easilly, although he was the best player in the world at the time. On February 14 2012 04:44 Bagration wrote: Now why would you just come on the thread and make a condescending post like that? Keep your negativity to yourself please. It's not really negative. Most foreigners lose in Round One of Code A so saying I think Xigua can win one round is a compliment. Also TL has no rules stating you need to be positive in every thread. | ||
Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On February 14 2012 05:55 Bagration wrote: Right now nobody can compete on equal footing with the Koreans My hope is only that this can lead to more interaction with the Chinese scene. I think that the Chinese scene is not that great right now, but it has a lot of potential, definitely more than NA and likely more than EU. China has top WC3 players, and the nation is very receptive to Esports, considering how big WC3 is, just not SC2 yet. But if we can create interest in SC2 in China, it would incentivize players to play more SC2 and the player quality increases. I agree with what you are saying pretty much. The Chinese looked really promising way back in the Stars Wars tournament but really haven't had any impressive results since then with the exception of Xigua.Once they start getting involved in the Korean progaming infrastructure their skill level will skyrocket. China is probably slightly below EU overall right now in my opinion, but in a few months if more players start going to Korea, they will pass the EU. Cool partnership. I hope to see more people continue to do this in the future. Not sure how the chinese will do in Code A. Hopefully they produce but the Macsed vs SelecT showmatch has me a little worried. Good luck! | ||
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pdd
Australia9933 Posts
On February 14 2012 01:48 Xeris wrote: Guess FXO cooperation fell through or what? The cooperation was just in the talks stage. Nothing was ever confirmed. | ||
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Primadog
United States4411 Posts
On February 14 2012 07:39 pdd wrote: The cooperation was just in the talks stage. Nothing was ever confirmed. Looks like a mistranslation http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=300299 | ||
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