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On February 14 2012 03:32 Seraphone wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 03:28 Primadog wrote:On February 14 2012 01:56 Seraphone wrote:
I have a pretty low opinion of Chinese players, in fact they're mostly all crappy but Xigua is the best of a bad bunch and given he's playing Killer (who has appalling PvZ) I think Xigua might actually make it through a round. The Chinese are very underrated. Prepare to be suprised. They're actual the exact opposite and are extremely overrated. Lots of people assume that because we don't see them play they must therefore be really good and it's not too uncommon to see people make ludicrous claims like "the Chinese scene can rival the Korean" and other such absurdities. Everytime we see Chinese players play they're doing strategies from six months ago and generally playing bad. Chinese players have an appalling record on LAN, even in their home country (Stars War, IEM China). Xigua coming 2nd at WCG (having beaten virtually no one of any note) is their only LAN result.
You're kidding, right?
At Starswar Chinese players knocked out:
Nestea, Fruitdealer (when he was in Code S), MarineKing, MVPGenius, TLO, SanZenith when he was good, Dimaga, Idra, Morrow, and a few others I think. 3/4 of the four top places were Chinese players iirc, with MC being the only other. Chinese players are REALLY underrated for the most part, they aren't on the level of Koreans, but they'd easily compete with other foreign countries.
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lol fun fact in the Chinese article:
MKP is a comic-lover: he wears kawaii clothes with cartoon figures, desktop is a kitty girl, and first thing after turning on the computer is watch some comics (not playing sc2!)
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On February 14 2012 04:21 Skwid1g wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 03:32 Seraphone wrote:On February 14 2012 03:28 Primadog wrote:On February 14 2012 01:56 Seraphone wrote:
I have a pretty low opinion of Chinese players, in fact they're mostly all crappy but Xigua is the best of a bad bunch and given he's playing Killer (who has appalling PvZ) I think Xigua might actually make it through a round. The Chinese are very underrated. Prepare to be suprised. They're actual the exact opposite and are extremely overrated. Lots of people assume that because we don't see them play they must therefore be really good and it's not too uncommon to see people make ludicrous claims like "the Chinese scene can rival the Korean" and other such absurdities. Everytime we see Chinese players play they're doing strategies from six months ago and generally playing bad. Chinese players have an appalling record on LAN, even in their home country (Stars War, IEM China). Xigua coming 2nd at WCG (having beaten virtually no one of any note) is their only LAN result. You're kidding, right? At Starswar Chinese players knocked out: Nestea, Fruitdealer (when he was in Code S), MarineKing, MVPGenius, TLO, SanZenith when he was good, Dimaga, Idra, Morrow, and a few others I think. 3/4 of the four top places were Chinese players iirc, with MC being the only other. Chinese players are REALLY underrated for the most part, they aren't on the level of Koreans, but they'd easily compete with other foreign countries.
But starswar was 95% online, so it really doesnt legitimize anything. If we were to consider online results European would also be on par with koreans.
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This is awesome GL in Code A!
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On February 14 2012 01:56 Seraphone wrote:
I have a pretty low opinion of Chinese players, in fact they're mostly all crappy but Xigua is the best of a bad bunch and given he's playing Killer (who has appalling PvZ) I think Xigua might actually make it through a round.
Now why would you just come on the thread and make a condescending post like that? Keep your negativity to yourself please.
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On February 14 2012 04:44 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 01:56 Seraphone wrote:
I have a pretty low opinion of Chinese players, in fact they're mostly all crappy but Xigua is the best of a bad bunch and given he's playing Killer (who has appalling PvZ) I think Xigua might actually make it through a round. Now why would you just come on the thread and make a condescending post like that? Keep your negativity to yourself please.
That's pretty much all Serpahone does on TL. "/
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Crap... He just keeps on getting more famous.
Damn my name.
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XiGua, xiaot, and Loner were/are pretty good, but XiGua seems to be the only really active one right now... the rest of the Chinese players are super underwhelming.
What I noticed from watching SeleCT vs Macsed is that the Chinese players' strategies just seem to be a few months behind. Their openers are strong, but their decision making and some other fundamental skills aren't very good, and their understanding of strategy is pretty far behind
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gl :D btw whatever happened to loner?
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code b inc for both players.
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On February 14 2012 05:10 Dattish wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 05:03 Xeris wrote:
XiGua, xiaot, and Loner were/are pretty good, but XiGua seems to be the only really active one right now... the rest of the Chinese players are super underwhelming.
What I noticed from watching SeleCT vs Macsed is that the Chinese players' strategies just seem to be a few months behind. Their openers are strong, but their decision making and some other fundamental skills aren't very good, and their understanding of strategy is pretty far behind I'd like to add LoveTt to that list, at least when he practices, then he's easily on XiGuas level. It's like you say, apart from some of the ex-bw players, most seem to treat the game like wc3 by trying to outmaneuver the opponent in strange ways, like blinking into his base. Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 05:05 Son of Gnome wrote:
gl :D btw whatever happened to loner? Still plays, not among the top 5 of China however imo.
I'd actually say LoveCD>LoveTT. At least in terms of results, he's taken 2nd place in two latest G-League seasons.
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On February 14 2012 04:21 Skwid1g wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 03:32 Seraphone wrote:On February 14 2012 03:28 Primadog wrote:On February 14 2012 01:56 Seraphone wrote:
I have a pretty low opinion of Chinese players, in fact they're mostly all crappy but Xigua is the best of a bad bunch and given he's playing Killer (who has appalling PvZ) I think Xigua might actually make it through a round. The Chinese are very underrated. Prepare to be suprised. They're actual the exact opposite and are extremely overrated. Lots of people assume that because we don't see them play they must therefore be really good and it's not too uncommon to see people make ludicrous claims like "the Chinese scene can rival the Korean" and other such absurdities. Everytime we see Chinese players play they're doing strategies from six months ago and generally playing bad. Chinese players have an appalling record on LAN, even in their home country (Stars War, IEM China). Xigua coming 2nd at WCG (having beaten virtually no one of any note) is their only LAN result. You're kidding, right? At Starswar Chinese players knocked out: Nestea, Fruitdealer (when he was in Code S), MarineKing, MVPGenius, TLO, SanZenith when he was good, Dimaga, Idra, Morrow, and a few others I think. 3/4 of the four top places were Chinese players iirc, with MC being the only other. Chinese players are REALLY underrated for the most part, they aren't on the level of Koreans, but they'd easily compete with other foreign countries.
The koreans were lagging hard.
Check chinese results on lans 
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On February 14 2012 05:37 Dattish wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 05:33 Poopi wrote:On February 14 2012 04:21 Skwid1g wrote:On February 14 2012 03:32 Seraphone wrote:On February 14 2012 03:28 Primadog wrote:On February 14 2012 01:56 Seraphone wrote:
I have a pretty low opinion of Chinese players, in fact they're mostly all crappy but Xigua is the best of a bad bunch and given he's playing Killer (who has appalling PvZ) I think Xigua might actually make it through a round. The Chinese are very underrated. Prepare to be suprised. They're actual the exact opposite and are extremely overrated. Lots of people assume that because we don't see them play they must therefore be really good and it's not too uncommon to see people make ludicrous claims like "the Chinese scene can rival the Korean" and other such absurdities. Everytime we see Chinese players play they're doing strategies from six months ago and generally playing bad. Chinese players have an appalling record on LAN, even in their home country (Stars War, IEM China). Xigua coming 2nd at WCG (having beaten virtually no one of any note) is their only LAN result. You're kidding, right? At Starswar Chinese players knocked out: Nestea, Fruitdealer (when he was in Code S), MarineKing, MVPGenius, TLO, SanZenith when he was good, Dimaga, Idra, Morrow, and a few others I think. 3/4 of the four top places were Chinese players iirc, with MC being the only other. Chinese players are REALLY underrated for the most part, they aren't on the level of Koreans, but they'd easily compete with other foreign countries. The koreans were lagging hard. Check chinese results on lans They didn't play exclusively on the Chinese servers, servers was decided by RNG.
Yes, and I'm pretty sure all Korea vs China matches were played on Korea since: 1) most chinese players had korean accounts because sc2 was released late in china, 2) it's pretty hard to get a chinese account.
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On February 14 2012 04:45 Eee wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 04:44 Bagration wrote:On February 14 2012 01:56 Seraphone wrote:
I have a pretty low opinion of Chinese players, in fact they're mostly all crappy but Xigua is the best of a bad bunch and given he's playing Killer (who has appalling PvZ) I think Xigua might actually make it through a round. Now why would you just come on the thread and make a condescending post like that? Keep your negativity to yourself please. That's pretty much all Serpahone does on TL. "/
I thought I recognized that name. I believe it was him who boldly predicted that Vile would get all-killed by FXO in IPL TAC2, and when that did not happen, he tried to cover his own back by saying the results were invalid by claiming there was too much lag. Kids these days...
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historically Chinese were super good in bw, but if no one plays starcraft in china than it will be 2 good chinese players in korea and rest in-land kinda comparable to EU / NA
but Xigua is wcg silver medalist maybe it will mean something for sc2..
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France12906 Posts
On February 14 2012 05:41 Eee wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 05:37 Dattish wrote:On February 14 2012 05:33 Poopi wrote:On February 14 2012 04:21 Skwid1g wrote:On February 14 2012 03:32 Seraphone wrote:On February 14 2012 03:28 Primadog wrote:On February 14 2012 01:56 Seraphone wrote:
I have a pretty low opinion of Chinese players, in fact they're mostly all crappy but Xigua is the best of a bad bunch and given he's playing Killer (who has appalling PvZ) I think Xigua might actually make it through a round. The Chinese are very underrated. Prepare to be suprised. They're actual the exact opposite and are extremely overrated. Lots of people assume that because we don't see them play they must therefore be really good and it's not too uncommon to see people make ludicrous claims like "the Chinese scene can rival the Korean" and other such absurdities. Everytime we see Chinese players play they're doing strategies from six months ago and generally playing bad. Chinese players have an appalling record on LAN, even in their home country (Stars War, IEM China). Xigua coming 2nd at WCG (having beaten virtually no one of any note) is their only LAN result. You're kidding, right? At Starswar Chinese players knocked out: Nestea, Fruitdealer (when he was in Code S), MarineKing, MVPGenius, TLO, SanZenith when he was good, Dimaga, Idra, Morrow, and a few others I think. 3/4 of the four top places were Chinese players iirc, with MC being the only other. Chinese players are REALLY underrated for the most part, they aren't on the level of Koreans, but they'd easily compete with other foreign countries. The koreans were lagging hard. Check chinese results on lans They didn't play exclusively on the Chinese servers, servers was decided by RNG. Yes, and I'm pretty sure all Korea vs China matches were played on Korea since: 1) most chinese players had korean accounts because sc2 was released late in china, 2) it's pretty hard to get a chinese account.
Genius forfeited his match because of the lag lol...
But believe that chinese are super gosus if you want .
They are good but it's nothing compared to koreans
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