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petzergling
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
538 Posts
February 18 2012 23:25 GMT
#1021
sc2 isnt fun, 90% of ur games are against really stupid ppl. when u win u dont feel accomplished, and when u lose you feel like shit
Mod Edit: Don't bold your entire post
Lysenko
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Iceland2128 Posts
February 19 2012 00:28 GMT
#1022
Worth noting that there are currently over 14,000 SC2 games worldwide, which is pretty consistent with activity levels for most of the last year. That tells me something is wrong with sc2ranks' statistics for s5.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
February 19 2012 01:19 GMT
#1023
On February 19 2012 08:25 petzergling wrote:
sc2 isnt fun, 90% of ur games are against really stupid ppl. when u win u dont feel accomplished, and when u lose you feel like shit


Absolutely second this. A lot of times I win because my opponent warped in 8 dt's when he had no units or because i had 3/3 upgrades and my opponent had 0/0.

A couple of hours ago I lost a PvP because my opponent had a hidden base and then got maxed and just crushed me...

Unless you beat an actual good player then thats cool
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
RampancyTW
Profile Joined August 2010
United States577 Posts
February 19 2012 01:29 GMT
#1024
You earn the right to beat good players by getting better at the game and, you know, beating bad players.

Why are you complaining about bad players when you're in Silver league?
chadissilent
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1187 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-19 01:31:46
February 19 2012 01:31 GMT
#1025
You think good players didn't beat bad players to get good? Everyone started at the same point, the cream is just rising to the top. All I see in this thread is a ton of excuses and no accountability.
RampancyTW
Profile Joined August 2010
United States577 Posts
February 19 2012 01:33 GMT
#1026
On February 19 2012 10:31 chadissilent wrote:
You think good players didn't beat bad players to get good? Everyone started at the same point, the cream is just rising to the top. All I see in this thread is a ton of excuses and no accountability.
Ding ding ding

Like I said in an earlier post, literally 10% more effort on the account of most of the complainers would solve the vast majority of their complaints
ZiegFeld
Profile Joined April 2011
351 Posts
February 19 2012 01:44 GMT
#1027
On February 19 2012 10:29 RampancyTW wrote:
You earn the right to beat good players by getting better at the game and, you know, beating bad players.

Why are you complaining about bad players when you're in Silver league?
It's even funnier when these players complain about bad players after LOSING.

You see it every league though.
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-19 01:49:03
February 19 2012 01:48 GMT
#1028
On February 19 2012 10:29 RampancyTW wrote:
You earn the right to beat good players by getting better at the game and, you know, beating bad players.

Why are you complaining about bad players when you're in Silver league?

WTF I'm absolutely dogshit terrible at this game and I never claimed to be otherwise, this is a thread about a declining playerbase and even though I am obviously bad there are of course players that are worse than me.

I am not saying that I have a right or anything.
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
honkeybeef
Profile Joined July 2011
United States143 Posts
February 19 2012 01:50 GMT
#1029
On February 19 2012 10:44 ZiegFeld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 10:29 RampancyTW wrote:
You earn the right to beat good players by getting better at the game and, you know, beating bad players.

Why are you complaining about bad players when you're in Silver league?
It's even funnier when these players complain about bad players after LOSING.

You see it every league though.


whiners gotta whine! hahaha

seriously though, this thread makes me weep for the mindset of the SC community...

If you don't like SC, why are you here on TL? LOL
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
February 19 2012 01:51 GMT
#1030
On February 19 2012 10:31 chadissilent wrote:
You think good players didn't beat bad players to get good? Everyone started at the same point, the cream is just rising to the top. All I see in this thread is a ton of excuses and no accountability.


I'm quite astonished that anyone could interpret my post in this way, I am saying that sometimes I play and it is really frustrating, and this is potentially a cause of why "nobody plays 1v1 anymore"
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
RampancyTW
Profile Joined August 2010
United States577 Posts
February 19 2012 01:56 GMT
#1031
On February 19 2012 10:51 NexUmbra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 10:31 chadissilent wrote:
You think good players didn't beat bad players to get good? Everyone started at the same point, the cream is just rising to the top. All I see in this thread is a ton of excuses and no accountability.


I'm quite astonished that anyone could interpret my post in this way, I am saying that sometimes I play and it is really frustrating, and this is potentially a cause of why "nobody plays 1v1 anymore"
Our point is that the frustrations are entirely within the control of the frustrated players, but their lack of effort/terrible mindset is keeping them from improving their own damn experience

I really miss the gaming communities of old where things being challenging were actually seen as a freakin' good thing
honkeybeef
Profile Joined July 2011
United States143 Posts
February 19 2012 01:59 GMT
#1032
On February 19 2012 10:56 RampancyTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 10:51 NexUmbra wrote:
On February 19 2012 10:31 chadissilent wrote:
You think good players didn't beat bad players to get good? Everyone started at the same point, the cream is just rising to the top. All I see in this thread is a ton of excuses and no accountability.


I'm quite astonished that anyone could interpret my post in this way, I am saying that sometimes I play and it is really frustrating, and this is potentially a cause of why "nobody plays 1v1 anymore"
Our point is that the frustrations are entirely within the control of the frustrated players, but their lack of effort/terrible mindset is keeping them from improving their own damn experience

I really miss the gaming communities of old where things being challenging were actually seen as a freakin' good thing


Oh my god! You sir win the thread!
And life for that matter
Ace1123
Profile Joined September 2011
Philippines1187 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-19 02:09:26
February 19 2012 02:04 GMT
#1033
On February 19 2012 10:19 NexUmbra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 08:25 petzergling wrote:
sc2 isnt fun, 90% of ur games are against really stupid ppl. when u win u dont feel accomplished, and when u lose you feel like shit


Absolutely second this. A lot of times I win because my opponent warped in 8 dt's when he had no units or because i had 3/3 upgrades and my opponent had 0/0.

A couple of hours ago I lost a PvP because my opponent had a hidden base and then got maxed and just crushed me...

Unless you beat an actual good player then thats cool



Isn't it your job to scout and find hidden expansions? I also believe that loosing to an actual good player is cool because you will be a lot better.
ForGG, Mvp, MMA, MarineKing, BoxeR,
Makman
Profile Joined June 2010
United States13 Posts
February 19 2012 02:46 GMT
#1034
On February 19 2012 11:04 Ace1123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 10:19 NexUmbra wrote:
On February 19 2012 08:25 petzergling wrote:
sc2 isnt fun, 90% of ur games are against really stupid ppl. when u win u dont feel accomplished, and when u lose you feel like shit


Absolutely second this. A lot of times I win because my opponent warped in 8 dt's when he had no units or because i had 3/3 upgrades and my opponent had 0/0.

A couple of hours ago I lost a PvP because my opponent had a hidden base and then got maxed and just crushed me...

Unless you beat an actual good player then thats cool



Isn't it your job to scout and find hidden expansions? I also believe that loosing to an actual good player is cool because you will be a lot better.

It's never your fault when you lose, right? Right?
broke
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
39 Posts
February 19 2012 02:53 GMT
#1035
Games that allow a high skill cap discourages participation from casuals. People would prefer for the game to be good for them. Thus the wide success of games like LoL, MW3, etc.
taran
Profile Joined July 2010
Finland49 Posts
February 19 2012 03:04 GMT
#1036
For me the mechanical skills required at high masters made me focus too much on something other than having 'fun'. It was all about how well you scouted and macroed and the game's tend to leave you exhausted. Not that playing serious is a problem in itself - it's just that I never felt like there was anything to gain after that and the drive to play was lost.
HardlyNever
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1258 Posts
February 19 2012 03:10 GMT
#1037
Allow me to summarize this thread for anyone who doesn't feel like reading the 50ish pages.

Person A: I don't play as much 1v1 for X reason(s) that makes the game less fun/no fun for me, so I don't play the game as much.

Person B: OMG YOU NOOB GET BETTER WHO SAID VIDEO GAMES ARE FOR FUN?!?!? YOU SHOULD PLAY THE GAME BECAUSE ITS HARD EVEN IF YOU DON'T HAVE FUN. YOUR REASON FOR NOT HAVING FUN IS DUMB!!!
Out there, the Kid learned to fend for himself. Learned to build. Learned to break.
joocybaneling
Profile Joined January 2012
67 Posts
February 19 2012 03:11 GMT
#1038
because this game is too hard


I prefer to let my teammates carry me in LoL, HoN and other MOBA games, that way when I lose I can place the blame on other people, just like IdrA.
jinixxx123
Profile Joined June 2010
543 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-19 03:27:26
February 19 2012 03:20 GMT
#1039
On February 19 2012 09:28 Lysenko wrote:
Worth noting that there are currently over 14,000 SC2 games worldwide, which is pretty consistent with activity levels for most of the last year. That tells me something is wrong with sc2ranks' statistics for s5.



to bad people will ignore posts like this and continue on with their rants.

anyway despite what is being said, the older a game gets, the more players it will bleed, this is natural i dont expect it any other way .As they say only the strong survive ( the true RTS players), the casuals can go , it makes for better game overall because of less QQ.

Sc2 is very competitive and not everybody is cut out for that, but for some of the people that may not continue to play, sc2 has still left a lasting impression to where they still actively watch mlg/gsl/ipl/nasl/i.e.m etc etc.

If an actively playing player base mattered for esports games then Call Of Duty would be the biggest esport around because its the biggest game out there in terms of player base. As we can see Call of duty is miles behind in esports because its super casual crap that any true FPS player despises.

World of warcraft had a pretty big esport scene as well and we are all aware it has a huge player base, till the community raped it and said it was a casual joke of a game which caused it to loose any grounding it had as an "esport"

Lets keep pretending a playing community matters for an esport game.


Something not noted in this thread is that the OP refers to 1v1 only. I know alot of players that still play the game but they choose to play team games instead and not 1v1. The statistics posted in the initial thread starter post only apply for 1v1 players.
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
February 19 2012 03:21 GMT
#1040
The terrible map pool SC2 had for seasons didn't help it probably. I'm certainly more interested in playing ladder lately since the maps are shockingly almost all good.
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