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OtoshimonoU
Profile Joined December 2011
United States509 Posts
February 18 2012 15:27 GMT
#981
On February 19 2012 00:24 RampancyTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 00:21 OtoshimonoU wrote:
SC2 is boring since it just boils down to all in or 200vs200.
Andddddd it keeps on coming.


If you can argue it pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee tell me.
God Young ho
IntoTheBush
Profile Joined July 2010
United States552 Posts
February 18 2012 15:28 GMT
#982
I dont ladder because I always get matched w/ a Zerg or Protoss. I might get 1 TvT out of 10 matches these days... It has also caused me to switch to Protoss which I have quickly gotten to Masters league with, which is something I could not accomplish with Terran...also TBH its not good practice playing on the ladder. Chances are your opponents are actually bad and have no idea what they are doing besides the build order.
RampancyTW
Profile Joined August 2010
United States577 Posts
February 18 2012 15:33 GMT
#983
On February 19 2012 00:27 OtoshimonoU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 00:24 RampancyTW wrote:
On February 19 2012 00:21 OtoshimonoU wrote:
SC2 is boring since it just boils down to all in or 200vs200.
Andddddd it keeps on coming.


If you can argue it pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee tell me.
You could always try fucking with your opponent before the 200 mark

But wait that would require basic improvement of whatever skill level you currently have so clearly that's not an option
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
February 18 2012 15:35 GMT
#984
quit quite a long time ago after playing A TON during beta and first few seasons (upper masters). its just a mix of evrything thats wrong with the game for me.

from the lack bnet features (CROSS REGION PLAY, i still cant play with my old buddys, clansupport,proper chat etc) to the shitty ladder system(and custom game system) and ofcourse i just got bored by all the fotm allin play in a many games and the deathball x vs deathball y , winner wins the game situations.


from the time when i bought my way into beta where i loaded it up for the first time and had a little tear in my eye actually seeing sc2 in action the first time this game sure managed to turn me off.



ofc will still get hots and see if things get better but honestly at this point i dont have much hope left.
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
OtoshimonoU
Profile Joined December 2011
United States509 Posts
February 18 2012 15:38 GMT
#985
On February 19 2012 00:33 RampancyTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 00:27 OtoshimonoU wrote:
On February 19 2012 00:24 RampancyTW wrote:
On February 19 2012 00:21 OtoshimonoU wrote:
SC2 is boring since it just boils down to all in or 200vs200.
Andddddd it keeps on coming.


If you can argue it pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee tell me.
You could always try fucking with your opponent before the 200 mark

But wait that would require basic improvement of whatever skill level you currently have so clearly that's not an option


As a Terran, you'll always suffer in supply, so attacking before 200 is a death wish.
God Young ho
RampancyTW
Profile Joined August 2010
United States577 Posts
February 18 2012 15:42 GMT
#986
On February 19 2012 00:38 OtoshimonoU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 00:33 RampancyTW wrote:
On February 19 2012 00:27 OtoshimonoU wrote:
On February 19 2012 00:24 RampancyTW wrote:
On February 19 2012 00:21 OtoshimonoU wrote:
SC2 is boring since it just boils down to all in or 200vs200.
Andddddd it keeps on coming.


If you can argue it pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee tell me.
You could always try fucking with your opponent before the 200 mark

But wait that would require basic improvement of whatever skill level you currently have so clearly that's not an option


As a Terran, you'll always suffer in supply, so attacking before 200 is a death wish.
Yeah this is clearly a problem with the game and not a problem with your mentality

And aggressive-to-hyper-aggressive styles of Terran play totally aren't kicking ass at a high level right now

It is good to see you have the game all figured out and improving your own skillset wouldn't improve your experience at all good for you I hope many others can be inspired by your fine example
Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
February 18 2012 15:47 GMT
#987
On February 19 2012 00:38 OtoshimonoU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 00:33 RampancyTW wrote:
On February 19 2012 00:27 OtoshimonoU wrote:
On February 19 2012 00:24 RampancyTW wrote:
On February 19 2012 00:21 OtoshimonoU wrote:
SC2 is boring since it just boils down to all in or 200vs200.
Andddddd it keeps on coming.


If you can argue it pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee tell me.
You could always try fucking with your opponent before the 200 mark

But wait that would require basic improvement of whatever skill level you currently have so clearly that's not an option


As a Terran, you'll always suffer in supply, so attacking before 200 is a death wish.

I'm sorry but you are just bad and lack understanding of the game if you think that.
DamnCats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1472 Posts
February 18 2012 15:49 GMT
#988
Why are you guys even responding to OtoshimonoU, he obviously has no idea what he's talking about.

Disciples of a god, that neither lives nor breathes.
OtoshimonoU
Profile Joined December 2011
United States509 Posts
February 18 2012 15:50 GMT
#989
On February 19 2012 00:42 RampancyTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 00:38 OtoshimonoU wrote:
On February 19 2012 00:33 RampancyTW wrote:
On February 19 2012 00:27 OtoshimonoU wrote:
On February 19 2012 00:24 RampancyTW wrote:
On February 19 2012 00:21 OtoshimonoU wrote:
SC2 is boring since it just boils down to all in or 200vs200.
Andddddd it keeps on coming.


If you can argue it pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee tell me.
You could always try fucking with your opponent before the 200 mark

But wait that would require basic improvement of whatever skill level you currently have so clearly that's not an option


As a Terran, you'll always suffer in supply, so attacking before 200 is a death wish.
Yeah this is clearly a problem with the game and not a problem with your mentality

And aggressive-to-hyper-aggressive styles of Terran play totally aren't kicking ass at a high level right now

It is good to see you have the game all figured out and improving your own skillset wouldn't improve your experience at all good for you I hope many others can be inspired by your fine example


I wish you would look at other levels like diamond and lower because that's where most of the people are. They can't pull of the great styles of pro-gamers. I was basing my point on what I see in leagues like diamond (which is where I am)
God Young ho
Sovano
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1503 Posts
February 18 2012 15:53 GMT
#990
Personally I've been on and off in every season. None of my friends play SC2, they're mainly console gamers, and I'm fine with that. I just find that ladder is stressful sometimes. I've just felt demoralized because I hit my "wall" so to speak. My computer limits me to staying in Platinum league because my FPS is at best 10. Though physical limitations aside the other thing is just studying and remembering builds, counters, and basics (scouting, macroing, etc). I don't have the time to put that much effort into the game since I'm in school.
shivver
Profile Joined June 2011
United States232 Posts
February 18 2012 15:57 GMT
#991
basically what I've gotten out of this thread:

Reason number 1: "omg so cheesey, no skill"... take a lesson from koreans, there is aggressive builds, and then is non-aggressive macro based builds. It's a part of the game just like a team that blitzes all the time in football, do you call that cheesey? Because that is exactly what it is but you never hear teams/players/fans crying about "oh the pittsburg steelers, they're so cheesey, they constantly put pressure on and play all out and all in" ... I hate to say this, but this is just that damn entitled american attitude that so many of us ( yes im american ) are developing. Take a lesson from koreans.. They're strategies, not "cheeses".. get that word out of your vocab.

Reason number 2: "i'm scared of ladder"... are you that mentally weak? Change your mindset is all I have to say. You're not scared of ladder, you're scared of getting your @ss kicked. You're scared of losing. You're a b*tch ( pardon my french TL ) pretty much. It's a computer game, and you're letting your ego get the best of you. This is what I did, I tell myself I want to learn how to be as gracious a loser as I possibly can be when I do lose. Any of you that watch stephano play on streams, he laughs when he loses. Then he finds out what he did wrong, and then he moves on with life. So once again, it's your ego and your mentality, it's YOU it's not the damn game.

The other reasons, like bnet sucks, interface etc. etc. yeah, I kind of have to agree, blizzard you seriously disappoint sometimes.



KULA_u
Profile Joined March 2010
Switzerland107 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-18 18:25:50
February 18 2012 18:24 GMT
#992
some reasons (some of them only apply for diamond and lower leagues):
1. the interface is horrible. you feel alone. there is little to do. no tournaments. horrible custom map system. no real statistics. below masters you don't even see your losses.

2. you cannot change your race. it's completetly ridiculous to assume that people only want to play one race or that they are at the same skill level with every race. it's stupid. most people play 2 or even 3 races.


3. the map pool is bad. way better than in the beginning, but still pretty horrible.

4. the game just lacks in gameplay. it's just not that well designed. units are all bound to single (hard counter) roles, often making them boring. micro just isn't too important, there's little you can do in reaction to Forcefield, Fungal, Concussive, etc..

5. cheese is extremely prevalent and strong and often hard to scout (and in lower leagues where there is little scouting done, you just lose), or even if you scout it you often can't do much about it. even in higher leagues it's cheesecraft to a certain extent.
Deleted User 109835
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
629 Posts
February 18 2012 18:27 GMT
#993
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Aterons_toss
Profile Joined February 2011
Romania1275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-18 18:32:20
February 18 2012 18:31 GMT
#994
On February 19 2012 00:27 OtoshimonoU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 00:24 RampancyTW wrote:
On February 19 2012 00:21 OtoshimonoU wrote:
SC2 is boring since it just boils down to all in or 200vs200.
Andddddd it keeps on coming.


If you can argue it pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee tell me.

Not to insult you or anything but isn't an army vs army engagement before 200 an all in unless there is a special situation in which you can kill your opponent or you are sure you can army trade ? wasn't it the same in sc;bw ? Unless you are way ahead ( in which case is a matter of not losing the game ) there is no point in attacking before 200/200 if its not and all in.
Pressure before 200/200 exists, non all in timings to kill an expo or make your opponent do an army trade that is in your advantage exist in all matchup but the mirror one as far as i know ( more or less pvz ), harass exists. But all those things are hard to do unless you have the apm, and quite frankly being able to produce units constantly might not be as fun as sentry dropping but its easier and more important do to.
You need to learn how to play really well and to have the appropriate mechanics if you want to be able to do that which you can't have if you didn't train enough or don't have a rich wc3 or sc;bw background.
A good strategy means leaving your opponent room to make mistakes
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-18 18:34:50
February 18 2012 18:32 GMT
#995
i moved on to the moba gamessss

lots of problems. The ladder didnt intrigue me. i got to Diamond and TvZ got frustrating. My friend is trying hard and is still motivated and playing but i find no enjoyment anymore. Id play the game more often if the custom maps weren't butchered to shit. No chance for potential, always Tower defense, never not Tower defense ;l

It would come down to the point where i didnt play the game because i didnt enjoy it. Its hard to put my finger exactly on the problem, probably cause im just annoyed by a bunch of things that i dislike subconsiously
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
kcbgoku
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland156 Posts
February 18 2012 18:33 GMT
#996
Weren't seasons longer before?
ydeer1993
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom569 Posts
February 18 2012 18:38 GMT
#997
getting ZvZ all the time doesnt really want you to make you play alot..
**MMA** - MVP - Seed !
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
February 18 2012 18:38 GMT
#998
On February 19 2012 00:38 OtoshimonoU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 00:33 RampancyTW wrote:
On February 19 2012 00:27 OtoshimonoU wrote:
On February 19 2012 00:24 RampancyTW wrote:
On February 19 2012 00:21 OtoshimonoU wrote:
SC2 is boring since it just boils down to all in or 200vs200.
Andddddd it keeps on coming.


If you can argue it pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee tell me.
You could always try fucking with your opponent before the 200 mark

But wait that would require basic improvement of whatever skill level you currently have so clearly that's not an option


As a Terran, you'll always suffer in supply, so attacking before 200 is a death wish.


Wait what? Are you implying Terran cannot attack before 200?

Are you using facts or are you theorycrafting scenarios out of your ass?
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
ohampatu
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1448 Posts
February 18 2012 18:42 GMT
#999
Im one of those people who dont play 1v1 ladder anymore, but mostly for weird issues.

I have been playing SC2 since beta patch 13, so I've been with the game for close to 2 years. I moved about 6 months ago, and have only had access to internet through my Droid. It saddens me, because i have an inherent 300-500ms lag spikes that are very intermittant and random, sometimes lasting a few seconds, other times lasting long enough to kick me out of the game. Because of this, I can't keep my ladder ranking like I want it, so i play as little as possible to keep my account active.

I wish i could play more, im just tired at sitting at the top of diamon ladder playing low masters mmr'ish players and losing because of Lag. So yea, i stopped playing as much, but only because i have to. Its like cruel and unusual punishment, i hate it. I miss my mass 50 games a day on sc2
I am become death, for I am the destroyer of worlds.....You will be missed KT Violet!!!
seansye
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1722 Posts
February 18 2012 18:45 GMT
#1000
Most custom games are absolute shit compared to Brood war UMS games... So it's like your only option is to 1v1. Team games take about 2 minutes just to find people as well.
I will master Speshul Taktics.!
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