Nobody Plays 1v1 Ladder Anymore? - Page 24

On February 14 2012 06:20 Qxcsgayestfan wrote:


You think it's the match making systems fault you only get pvps?

Ignorance must be bliss.

It's like that because Terrans switched races, or stopped playing. (this was before the ghost announcement)

If you've got high masters mechanics, then being Terran is no problem.

If you want to play casually but still win games at a level above Gold, you better pick Protoss, or at the very least Zerg.

On February 14 2012 06:28 LittleWM wrote:
The problem is Blizzard has created a game where, at any moment in time on the ladder, there are really only a few usable strategies. Muta/ling, 1/1/1, FFE in to defensive scout and build counter, etc. It's just not interesting or fun to play against the same thing every game.

On February 14 2012 06:28 MockHamill wrote:
The reward system in SC2 simply sucks. Both in real life and in computer games you get better experiences the better you become at something. In SC2 even if you are 100% better then you were half a year ago you will still lose 50% of your games. From a psychological point of view that is simply frustrating and in many ways unnatural.

It is no coincidence that games that are much worse (like WOW) but have a better reward system are more popular.

Honestly I think everyone below Masters should have 25% of their ladder matches be against AI players pretending to be people. Giving everyone more wins even if they are "fake" would make laddering more fun. But for this to work the AI would be good enough so you could not be sure if you were playing the AI or not.

On February 14 2012 06:30 fighter2_40 wrote:


Subtle Terran T_T.

No, imbalance is not why 1v1 is losing interest.
Also, to address mirror matchups... People like what they are good at. If someone doesn't like mirror matchups, it's because it's their worst matchup. (Except maybe tvt where it gets very tedious if you play tank wars.)

On February 14 2012 06:27 Qxcsgayestfan wrote:


This isn't true though.

Everyone knows Terrans are dissapearing from the ladder. There are plenty of threads knocking around with the stats to prove it. Not in Korea obv, but everywhere else.




You find me the guy that has too many tvt's.

On February 14 2012 06:28 MockHamill wrote:
The reward system in SC2 simply sucks. Both in real life and in computer games you get better experiences the better you become at something. In SC2 even if you are 100% better then you were half a year ago you will still lose 50% of your games. From a psychological point of view that is simply frustrating and in many ways unnatural.

It is no coincidence that games that are much worse (like WOW) but have a better reward system are more popular.

Honestly I think everyone below Masters should have 25% of their ladder matches be against AI players pretending to be people. Giving everyone more wins even if they are "fake" would make laddering more fun. But for this to work the AI would be good enough so you could not be sure if you were playing the AI or not.

On February 14 2012 06:27 Qxcsgayestfan wrote:


This isn't true though.

Everyone knows Terrans are dissapearing from the ladder. There are plenty of threads knocking around with the stats to prove it. Not in Korea obv, but everywhere else.




You find me the guy that has too many tvt's.

On February 14 2012 06:37 fighter2_40 wrote:

Again complaints that terran is harder than other races. Have you even played all 3 races to a competent level? I encourage all players to spend at least a month laddering as random. It gives you a lot more insight into each race.

Also, assuming that it is harder, ladder matches your mmr so you are 50/50. You'll just keep playing "lower level" toss and zergs to even the difference

On February 14 2012 06:28 MockHamill wrote:
The reward system in SC2 simply sucks. Both in real life and in computer games you get better experiences the better you become at something. In SC2 even if you are 100% better then you were half a year ago you will still lose 50% of your games. From a psychological point of view that is simply frustrating and in many ways unnatural.

It is no coincidence that games that are much worse (like WOW) but have a better reward system are more popular.

Honestly I think everyone below Masters should have 25% of their ladder matches be against AI players pretending to be people. Giving everyone more wins even if they are "fake" would make laddering more fun. But for this to work the AI would be good enough so you could not be sure if you were playing the AI or not.

On February 14 2012 06:43 elKaDor wrote:
from my 10years of bw playing i know around 8(?) people out of lets say 100 that still plays sc2.

and out of those 8 i think its around 2 or 3 who actually enjoys the game, the other just hang around plays some custom with eachother cuz of old times.

I quit the game 5 months ago, and i played maybe 500 games since release and my perspective is mostly the UI that destroys the game.

In BW i could sit for hours in chatchannels or watch replays with friends, blizzard completely ruined that for SC2, and i know WC3 also had very good UI but didnt really play it so i have no experience of it.

I really hate the gamelobbys in sc2, feels like crap, also i think the game is too hard to read, warpgates/reactors/larvainject makes it to hard to really read the opponent, like (aight i saw 2 stalkers, np) but then he had 6 wg which i didnt see and a hidden pylon) kind of thing.

Nah i didnt enjoy SC2 at all, the reason i played those games was because i really really really wanted to enjoy SC2, but 5 months ago i just gave up on the game, no way i could enjoy it