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Daitakk
Profile Joined November 2011
77 Posts
June 30 2012 22:23 GMT
#341
I really think the OP is playing dumb in asking these "questions".
BluePanther
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2776 Posts
June 30 2012 22:24 GMT
#342
I probably wouldn't defend someone on this in fear of getting sanctioned (from the little I know of copyright law).
smOOthMayDie
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States997 Posts
June 30 2012 23:23 GMT
#343
Found out why my stream was shutdown for 24 hours.

Warner Bros contacted twitch.tv about a DMCA violation against me, because I sang along to a backstreet boys song from youtube, for roughly 40 seconds, and turned it off. Talk about a pain in the ass!

Looks like I won't be singing a long to backstreet boy songs while streaming! Or playing youtube music that's licensed by big companies. Hue.
twitch.tv/TKSaga twitter.com/TKSagaTV YT: Tinyurl.com/TKSaga
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
June 30 2012 23:35 GMT
#344
On July 01 2012 08:23 smoothmaydie wrote:
Found out why my stream was shutdown for 24 hours.

Warner Bros contacted twitch.tv about a DMCA violation against me, because I sang along to a backstreet boys song from youtube, for roughly 40 seconds, and turned it off. Talk about a pain in the ass!

Looks like I won't be singing a long to backstreet boy songs while streaming! Or playing youtube music that's licensed by big companies. Hue.

Woah that's really harsh I guess Warner Bros really didn't enjoy your singing kekekkekeke
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algorithm0r
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada486 Posts
June 30 2012 23:38 GMT
#345
Alas. Copyrights are a tool of the production companies to maintain complete control of the industry. It is sad to see that streamers are being targeted now.

Also if you are following the news then you will find that Team Liquid is also dangerously close to being in violation of copyrights too:

Richard O'Dwyer of the UK faces extradition to the USA for creating tvshack.net a website that only LINKED to sites with copyrighted material. Team Liquid is exactly the same in that it links to streams that frequently contain copyrighted material. Since the USA justice department has moved against Richard O'Dwyer it is matter of time for them to move on twitch and even TL down the road. Please help stop the internet police and the copyright police. You can help by signing this petition against the extradition of Richard O'Dwyer:

http://www.change.org/petitions/ukhomeoffice-stop-the-extradition-of-richard-o-dwyer-to-the-usa-saverichard

And also by fighting new laws to make it easier for large corporations to police the internet.
FeUerFlieGe
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1193 Posts
June 30 2012 23:38 GMT
#346
On July 01 2012 08:23 smoothmaydie wrote:
Found out why my stream was shutdown for 24 hours.

Warner Bros contacted twitch.tv about a DMCA violation against me, because I sang along to a backstreet boys song from youtube, for roughly 40 seconds, and turned it off. Talk about a pain in the ass!

Looks like I won't be singing a long to backstreet boy songs while streaming! Or playing youtube music that's licensed by big companies. Hue.


That's actually just plain pathetic by Warner Bros
To unpathed waters, undreamed shores. - Shakespeare
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-30 23:42:13
June 30 2012 23:41 GMT
#347
On July 01 2012 08:38 FeUerFlieGe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2012 08:23 smoothmaydie wrote:
Found out why my stream was shutdown for 24 hours.

Warner Bros contacted twitch.tv about a DMCA violation against me, because I sang along to a backstreet boys song from youtube, for roughly 40 seconds, and turned it off. Talk about a pain in the ass!

Looks like I won't be singing a long to backstreet boy songs while streaming! Or playing youtube music that's licensed by big companies. Hue.


That's actually just plain pathetic by Warner Bros


All of the really major music labels are infamous for being the most 'plain pathetic'. There isn't any other body of individuals on the planet more concerned with incredibly petty copyright disputes.
wcr.4fun
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium686 Posts
June 30 2012 23:47 GMT
#348
How do you even get such a license to stream music legally?
smOOthMayDie
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States997 Posts
June 30 2012 23:48 GMT
#349
On July 01 2012 08:47 wcr.4fun wrote:
How do you even get such a license to stream music legally?


I assume by paying big bucks to the labels themselves. And even then, you could technically only play their music. Unless you go around to all the labels of the music you listen to, and pay them for rights. It's pretty retarded if thats the case.
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Vectoor
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden62 Posts
July 01 2012 00:13 GMT
#350
Sadly it is technically illegal, although I hope to continue to see streamers giving the middle finger to this particular law in the future.
Sufinsil
Profile Joined January 2011
United States760 Posts
July 01 2012 00:36 GMT
#351
On July 01 2012 08:47 wcr.4fun wrote:
How do you even get such a license to stream music legally?


I am not sure on the rate, but music on a stream is much like a Bar playing music for their guests.

Internet radio is the same way. The songs you listen on Pandora are not played for free.

Both of these go to a communal fund that goes to artists. But I doubt artists get their proper share.

The thing is the labels have not adapted to today's digital age (still) and would not offer any reasonable terms to streamers.
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-01 00:50:49
July 01 2012 00:50 GMT
#352
Most streamers thrive on copyright infrignement technically, even if everyone knows almost no one goes out of their way to listen to someone stream call me maybe in mediocre quality. The law still dictates that companies like blizzard and the RIAA can grab you by the balls at any time. Kinda sad, because in the end the streamers themselves (IMO of course) are providing the impetus for people to tune in.
Shaid
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States28 Posts
July 27 2012 19:37 GMT
#353
Admittedly I've not read this entire thread so if it occurred in the middle somewhere or I just missed it I apologize.

Does anyone know one way or another if TV or radio stations are required to pay royalties or get permission to broadcast music that is played at a sporting event by the stadium that is then picked up by the announcers or other microphones? It would seem to me that streamers listening to music while primarily doing other activities would fall under that umbrella of copyright law, rather than that of a youtube video being uploaded with with a song added in the background. Is there some clause about the relative fidelity of the rebroadcast sound that allows the former and not the latter?
ThirdDegree
Profile Joined February 2011
United States329 Posts
July 27 2012 20:04 GMT
#354
On July 01 2012 08:38 algorithm0r wrote:
Alas. Copyrights are a tool of the production companies to maintain complete control of the industry. It is sad to see that streamers are being targeted now.


This is an incredibly ignorant view as to the laws. I admit that some people (producers, musicians, etc) take things way out of proportion, a band is entitled to earn money on their content.

I actually wonder if anyone has tried contacting bands directly for permission. Obviously huge mega bands aren't easy to reach, but there are plenty great bands out there with a decent following that have pretty good contact with the fans. And I'm sure they could see allowing their music to be streamed as good exposure. I have gone and purchased several bands because of watching streams.
I am terrible
Lysenko
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Iceland2128 Posts
July 27 2012 20:10 GMT
#355
On July 28 2012 05:04 ThirdDegree wrote:
I actually wonder if anyone has tried contacting bands directly for permission. Obviously huge mega bands aren't easy to reach, but there are plenty great bands out there with a decent following that have pretty good contact with the fans. And I'm sure they could see allowing their music to be streamed as good exposure. I have gone and purchased several bands because of watching streams.


Day[9] has done this. The music he uses on his stream is used with permission, and at least the Blue Sky Black Death guys have made statements that suggest that it's driven sales for them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-27 20:11:15
July 27 2012 20:11 GMT
#356
On July 28 2012 05:04 ThirdDegree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2012 08:38 algorithm0r wrote:
Alas. Copyrights are a tool of the production companies to maintain complete control of the industry. It is sad to see that streamers are being targeted now.


This is an incredibly ignorant view as to the laws. I admit that some people (producers, musicians, etc) take things way out of proportion, a band is entitled to earn money on their content.

I actually wonder if anyone has tried contacting bands directly for permission. Obviously huge mega bands aren't easy to reach, but there are plenty great bands out there with a decent following that have pretty good contact with the fans. And I'm sure they could see allowing their music to be streamed as good exposure. I have gone and purchased several bands because of watching streams.

Most bands do not hold the copyrights to their work. If they sign with a major label, they signed away their rights as well.

AKA, asking the bands is absolutely meaningless.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Lysenko
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Iceland2128 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-27 20:15:44
July 27 2012 20:14 GMT
#357
On July 28 2012 05:11 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Most bands do not hold the copyrights to their work. If they sign with a major label, they signed away their rights as well.

AKA, asking the bands is absolutely meaningless.


Asking the bands is meaningless if they are signed to a label that has acquired the rights. I believe the guy you're quoting is advocating contacting indie bands who are marketing their own work through, for example, the iTunes program (or similar ones) that allow bands to do so without affiliation with a major label. The bands I mentioned Day[9] using in his streams have so far retained the rights to their music and are able to grant that permission.

Obviously, the rightholder has to provide permission.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism
ThirdDegree
Profile Joined February 2011
United States329 Posts
July 27 2012 20:16 GMT
#358
Most bands do hold copyrights to their work. Major label bands, no way. But most bands are not on major labels. There are plenty of signed bands out there that could give permission to stream their music.
I am terrible
Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2959 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-27 20:22:10
July 27 2012 20:20 GMT
#359
Oh man, we Germans can only fear the day that the GEMA gets wind of this stuff @__@

Edit:

This video stream is unavailable.
Unfortunately, this video stream is not available in Germany because it may contain music for which GEMA has not granted the respective music rights.
Sorry about that.
WrathBringerReturns said: No no no. Sarcasm is detected in the voice. When this forum is riddled with stupidity, you think I can tell every post apart? Fair enough it was intended sarcastically, was it obvious? Of course not.
dark_dragoon10
Profile Joined May 2010
United States299 Posts
July 27 2012 20:34 GMT
#360
On July 01 2012 08:38 algorithm0r wrote:
Alas. Copyrights are a tool of the production companies to maintain complete control of the industry. It is sad to see that streamers are being targeted now.

Also if you are following the news then you will find that Team Liquid is also dangerously close to being in violation of copyrights too:

Richard O'Dwyer of the UK faces extradition to the USA for creating tvshack.net a website that only LINKED to sites with copyrighted material. Team Liquid is exactly the same in that it links to streams that frequently contain copyrighted material. Since the USA justice department has moved against Richard O'Dwyer it is matter of time for them to move on twitch and even TL down the road. Please help stop the internet police and the copyright police. You can help by signing this petition against the extradition of Richard O'Dwyer:

http://www.change.org/petitions/ukhomeoffice-stop-the-extradition-of-richard-o-dwyer-to-the-usa-saverichard

And also by fighting new laws to make it easier for large corporations to police the internet.


hmm a wb agent could be reading your comment and say... hmm hes right lets shut off TL! thanks for giving him the idea buddy, lol :D
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