Music copyright issue. Are streamers immune to it? - Page 18
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Daitakk
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BluePanther
United States2776 Posts
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smOOthMayDie
United States997 Posts
Warner Bros contacted twitch.tv about a DMCA violation against me, because I sang along to a backstreet boys song from youtube, for roughly 40 seconds, and turned it off. Talk about a pain in the ass! Looks like I won't be singing a long to backstreet boy songs while streaming! Or playing youtube music that's licensed by big companies. Hue. | ||
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Epoxide
Magic Woods9326 Posts
On July 01 2012 08:23 smoothmaydie wrote: Found out why my stream was shutdown for 24 hours. Warner Bros contacted twitch.tv about a DMCA violation against me, because I sang along to a backstreet boys song from youtube, for roughly 40 seconds, and turned it off. Talk about a pain in the ass! Looks like I won't be singing a long to backstreet boy songs while streaming! Or playing youtube music that's licensed by big companies. Hue. Woah that's really harsh ![]() | ||
algorithm0r
Canada486 Posts
Also if you are following the news then you will find that Team Liquid is also dangerously close to being in violation of copyrights too: Richard O'Dwyer of the UK faces extradition to the USA for creating tvshack.net a website that only LINKED to sites with copyrighted material. Team Liquid is exactly the same in that it links to streams that frequently contain copyrighted material. Since the USA justice department has moved against Richard O'Dwyer it is matter of time for them to move on twitch and even TL down the road. Please help stop the internet police and the copyright police. You can help by signing this petition against the extradition of Richard O'Dwyer: http://www.change.org/petitions/ukhomeoffice-stop-the-extradition-of-richard-o-dwyer-to-the-usa-saverichard And also by fighting new laws to make it easier for large corporations to police the internet. | ||
FeUerFlieGe
United States1193 Posts
On July 01 2012 08:23 smoothmaydie wrote: Found out why my stream was shutdown for 24 hours. Warner Bros contacted twitch.tv about a DMCA violation against me, because I sang along to a backstreet boys song from youtube, for roughly 40 seconds, and turned it off. Talk about a pain in the ass! Looks like I won't be singing a long to backstreet boy songs while streaming! Or playing youtube music that's licensed by big companies. Hue. That's actually just plain pathetic by Warner Bros | ||
MCXD
Australia2738 Posts
On July 01 2012 08:38 FeUerFlieGe wrote: That's actually just plain pathetic by Warner Bros All of the really major music labels are infamous for being the most 'plain pathetic'. There isn't any other body of individuals on the planet more concerned with incredibly petty copyright disputes. | ||
wcr.4fun
Belgium686 Posts
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smOOthMayDie
United States997 Posts
On July 01 2012 08:47 wcr.4fun wrote: How do you even get such a license to stream music legally? I assume by paying big bucks to the labels themselves. And even then, you could technically only play their music. Unless you go around to all the labels of the music you listen to, and pay them for rights. It's pretty retarded if thats the case. | ||
Vectoor
Sweden62 Posts
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Sufinsil
United States760 Posts
On July 01 2012 08:47 wcr.4fun wrote: How do you even get such a license to stream music legally? I am not sure on the rate, but music on a stream is much like a Bar playing music for their guests. Internet radio is the same way. The songs you listen on Pandora are not played for free. Both of these go to a communal fund that goes to artists. But I doubt artists get their proper share. The thing is the labels have not adapted to today's digital age (still) and would not offer any reasonable terms to streamers. | ||
Serpico
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Shaid
United States28 Posts
Does anyone know one way or another if TV or radio stations are required to pay royalties or get permission to broadcast music that is played at a sporting event by the stadium that is then picked up by the announcers or other microphones? It would seem to me that streamers listening to music while primarily doing other activities would fall under that umbrella of copyright law, rather than that of a youtube video being uploaded with with a song added in the background. Is there some clause about the relative fidelity of the rebroadcast sound that allows the former and not the latter? | ||
ThirdDegree
United States329 Posts
On July 01 2012 08:38 algorithm0r wrote: Alas. Copyrights are a tool of the production companies to maintain complete control of the industry. It is sad to see that streamers are being targeted now. This is an incredibly ignorant view as to the laws. I admit that some people (producers, musicians, etc) take things way out of proportion, a band is entitled to earn money on their content. I actually wonder if anyone has tried contacting bands directly for permission. Obviously huge mega bands aren't easy to reach, but there are plenty great bands out there with a decent following that have pretty good contact with the fans. And I'm sure they could see allowing their music to be streamed as good exposure. I have gone and purchased several bands because of watching streams. | ||
Lysenko
Iceland2128 Posts
On July 28 2012 05:04 ThirdDegree wrote: I actually wonder if anyone has tried contacting bands directly for permission. Obviously huge mega bands aren't easy to reach, but there are plenty great bands out there with a decent following that have pretty good contact with the fans. And I'm sure they could see allowing their music to be streamed as good exposure. I have gone and purchased several bands because of watching streams. Day[9] has done this. The music he uses on his stream is used with permission, and at least the Blue Sky Black Death guys have made statements that suggest that it's driven sales for them. | ||
WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On July 28 2012 05:04 ThirdDegree wrote: This is an incredibly ignorant view as to the laws. I admit that some people (producers, musicians, etc) take things way out of proportion, a band is entitled to earn money on their content. I actually wonder if anyone has tried contacting bands directly for permission. Obviously huge mega bands aren't easy to reach, but there are plenty great bands out there with a decent following that have pretty good contact with the fans. And I'm sure they could see allowing their music to be streamed as good exposure. I have gone and purchased several bands because of watching streams. Most bands do not hold the copyrights to their work. If they sign with a major label, they signed away their rights as well. AKA, asking the bands is absolutely meaningless. | ||
Lysenko
Iceland2128 Posts
On July 28 2012 05:11 WolfintheSheep wrote: Most bands do not hold the copyrights to their work. If they sign with a major label, they signed away their rights as well. AKA, asking the bands is absolutely meaningless. Asking the bands is meaningless if they are signed to a label that has acquired the rights. I believe the guy you're quoting is advocating contacting indie bands who are marketing their own work through, for example, the iTunes program (or similar ones) that allow bands to do so without affiliation with a major label. The bands I mentioned Day[9] using in his streams have so far retained the rights to their music and are able to grant that permission. Obviously, the rightholder has to provide permission. | ||
ThirdDegree
United States329 Posts
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Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Germany2959 Posts
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dark_dragoon10
United States299 Posts
On July 01 2012 08:38 algorithm0r wrote: Alas. Copyrights are a tool of the production companies to maintain complete control of the industry. It is sad to see that streamers are being targeted now. Also if you are following the news then you will find that Team Liquid is also dangerously close to being in violation of copyrights too: Richard O'Dwyer of the UK faces extradition to the USA for creating tvshack.net a website that only LINKED to sites with copyrighted material. Team Liquid is exactly the same in that it links to streams that frequently contain copyrighted material. Since the USA justice department has moved against Richard O'Dwyer it is matter of time for them to move on twitch and even TL down the road. Please help stop the internet police and the copyright police. You can help by signing this petition against the extradition of Richard O'Dwyer: http://www.change.org/petitions/ukhomeoffice-stop-the-extradition-of-richard-o-dwyer-to-the-usa-saverichard And also by fighting new laws to make it easier for large corporations to police the internet. hmm a wb agent could be reading your comment and say... hmm hes right lets shut off TL! thanks for giving him the idea buddy, lol :D | ||
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